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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 22:19:34 GMT -5
I'd like to join the "what's the big deal?" club. Wouldn't hurt anyone to get out of the habit of judging the career choices of strangers in general. Or at least taking the hostility out of your language when talking about it. WWE isn't exactly a utopia for a lot of people either.
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Post by Giul T. on Jan 18, 2018 22:23:01 GMT -5
The big thing is that WWE is on another hiring spree
On the good side, he'd probably be welcomed back
On the down side, how much more can WWE bring in before they're just holding talent for the thrill of it.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 18, 2018 22:44:40 GMT -5
WWE have brought in or brought back plenty of people who did much worse things, than say “thank you for the offer, but I have another deal which fits my family life better”. He’s kinda old and probably can’t get a big push, but there are plenty of guys who would probably vouch for him.
I hope he gets a chance, always liked him.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 18, 2018 22:52:03 GMT -5
I remember watching a Triple H docu-something that was on the Network's linear feed (back when Canada had only the linear feed) where he was talking about how he and Steph had to balance their super hectic days to get their work done, get in their workouts, but how they made sure there was time for their daughters every day. I don't think it'd be too out there to say that he might look favorably on someone whose position is "I have to take the deal that's better for my family and lets me have more time with them". I know it puts me into the even harder-to-buy territory of humanizing Triple H, but like. Maybe when Storm says he was supportive, understood, and encouraged him to take the TNA deal, Storm's telling the truth?
Also worth noting that The American Wolves got a reluctant try-out match generally just as a favour to Regal, blew it because Davey Richards is a disrespectful f***hole who kept going when he was told to go home so he could get his shit in, and nobody was happy about it. Dude intentionally tanked their try-out so they could go to TNA instead. But now rumour is that WWE is looking at Eddie Edwards. If they can forgive someone more directly and openly f***ing around with them then I don't see where all this high ground "he lost his chance" stuff is even coming from.
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Post by WIENERS=$$$ on Jan 18, 2018 22:59:51 GMT -5
Here's my take on the whole "this guy doesn't deserve to be hired" theory; if Eric Bischoff can be hired by Vince McMahon, then anyone can be hired by Vince McMahon. I don't care if they had a small-time, try-out in NXT, or was once a drug-addicted risk; if there is value in you, then the WWE has interest in you.
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Post by Skeletor on Jan 19, 2018 0:38:49 GMT -5
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Post by benstudd on Jan 19, 2018 0:42:59 GMT -5
It's not like he killed HHH's dog right. I don't see why they wouldn't like to bring him in. He's in a good shape and Storm has always been a pro, not causing any trouble. He has charisma, can wrestle and talk.
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Post by benstudd on Jan 19, 2018 0:46:13 GMT -5
Hope it works out for him, but I don’t have any real desire to see him taking up time on any of the shows when there are younger, more talented people that could use the tv time. Such as? It's not like anyone nowadays are "must-see tv" either on Raw or Smackdown. |
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Post by hargh on Jan 19, 2018 1:40:00 GMT -5
Sorry about your damn poor business decisions.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 19, 2018 2:10:51 GMT -5
He doesn't know about the existence of Superboy? That's the part that baffled me most of all!  |
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Post by Fauxnaki on Jan 19, 2018 11:09:17 GMT -5
Sick of people calling storm an"idiot". Guy chose what he believed was best for his family at the time and has probably made more money then you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:54:37 GMT -5
Right. Didn’t they owe them all that money and that’s the reason why they let them go out their contracts early Yep, supposedly owed them a combined 6 figures. Shit, I'm pretty sure TNA owes me 6 figures and I've never worked there. |
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jan 19, 2018 12:44:58 GMT -5
Yep, supposedly owed them a combined 6 figures. Shit, I'm pretty sure TNA owes me 6 figures and I've never worked there. For that matter WWE still owes money for years when Vince hired and then fired the whole crowd in a matter of seconds |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 19, 2018 12:58:39 GMT -5
Yeah, it’d be silly to have him come in again as a hot free agent for a big singles run, but as a player/coach type for a faction of younger guys like Eric Young is for Sanity? Sure, why not? Here's the difference: Young took his chance, and knocked it out of the park. Storm handed that chance back to them, went back to the small pond, and proceeded to shit the bed and look awful in everything he did in TNA. He maybe made the right short term choice, but his long term value really took a hit. "Look awful"? Dude was one of TNA's top performers and got paid every penny he was due. What I really don't get is why many fans will gladly crap all over WWE a lot of the time (fully warranted, I might add), but so often get spiteful and angry toward any wrestler who dares to say they're not going to sign there, even for completely benign reasons. Not singling anybody in this thread out in particular, just that around wrestling fandom WWE has given some corners of wrestling fandom a version of Stockholm Syndrome or something. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 19, 2018 13:06:23 GMT -5
Here's the difference: Young took his chance, and knocked it out of the park. Storm handed that chance back to them, went back to the small pond, and proceeded to shit the bed and look awful in everything he did in TNA. He maybe made the right short term choice, but his long term value really took a hit. "Look awful"? Dude was one of TNA's top performers and got paid every penny he was due. What I really don't get is why many fans will gladly crap all over WWE a lot of the time (fully warranted, I might add), but so often get spiteful and angry toward any wrestler who dares to say they're not going to sign there, even for completely benign reasons. Not singling anybody in this thread out in particular, just that around wrestling fandom WWE has given some corners of wrestling fandom a version of Stockholm Syndrome or something. Dude was in an underwhelming, short reunion of Beer Money before Roode peaced out, then spent most of the rest of his run cosplaying as a member of Anonymous. That is not a "top act" run to me. If you want to talk about TNA's top performers during that time, talk about EC3, talk about Lashley, hell, talk about Eddie Edwards and Eli Drake, but Storm has no part in that discussion. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 19, 2018 15:41:08 GMT -5
"Look awful"? Dude was one of TNA's top performers and got paid every penny he was due. What I really don't get is why many fans will gladly crap all over WWE a lot of the time (fully warranted, I might add), but so often get spiteful and angry toward any wrestler who dares to say they're not going to sign there, even for completely benign reasons. Not singling anybody in this thread out in particular, just that around wrestling fandom WWE has given some corners of wrestling fandom a version of Stockholm Syndrome or something. Dude was in an underwhelming, short reunion of Beer Money before Roode peaced out, then spent most of the rest of his run cosplaying as a member of Anonymous. That is not a "top act" run to me. If you want to talk about TNA's top performers during that time, talk about EC3, talk about Lashley, hell, talk about Eddie Edwards and Eli Drake, but Storm has no part in that discussion. The stable being lame isn't really on him (the thing was almost immediately doomed given the constant changes in ownership/booking), but even after it the guy put on plenty of solid matches for the company and was probably one of their top promos. Doesn't mean he was setting the world on fire given TNA's underwhelming recent history, but even if he wasn't doing well at his job WWE would be bringing him in more for his use as a veteran hand and potential coach, anyway. If they sign him then they're not bringing him in to main event, not unless he shows up and suddenly blows the doors off the place overnight, in which case it's a lucky lotto ticket for WWE, anyway. The overall point is that, in my book at least, the larger ill will he developed just for not taking a smaller NXT deal at a time when his family could've used some extra financial security is completely irrational and impossible to understand from the perspective of anyone looking at this situation from the outside. The guy got the bigger offer, was a complete professional about it, got a thumbs up and a "give us a call when you're free" from one of the top bosses in WWE, and now would like to take him up on the offer to most likely play a role like Eric Young is playing, and likely no more than a midcard role should he make the main roster. Who cares? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 15:44:37 GMT -5
If WWE is insistent on Roode getting a push, pair him up with Storm. This last year has made it clear to me that I only ever enjoyed Bobby when he was in Beer Money.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jan 19, 2018 16:56:56 GMT -5
If WWE is insistent on Roode getting a push, pair him up with Storm. This last year has made it clear to me that I only ever enjoyed Bobby when he was in Beer Money. what's the opposite of Glorious? Shit? |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 19, 2018 17:04:21 GMT -5
I know it puts me into the even harder-to-buy territory of humanizing Triple H, but like. Maybe when Storm says he was supportive, understood, and encouraged him to take the TNA deal, Storm's telling the truth? I think we're in a bad place as people when it's considered bad to humanize the dude. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 19, 2018 17:51:49 GMT -5
The factor that changed the first time was that TNA were at least staying in Florida whilst NXT was doing Full Sale and a miniature version of the WWE schedule with some international dates. With them relocating to Canada for the most part and wanting to grow long term, it probably didn't make sense for him to stay there and relocate his whole family to Florida. I guess like you said, his kids have grown up a bit so he's a bit more willing to leave them for a few times a month for the NXT shows they do outside of Full Sale. Also supposedly the contract he was offered by TNA was 100K a year and they paid him that in full so money isn't as big an issue either considering he said he was paying off a house I believe as well as wanting another child Which is more than most people in NXT were earning (apparently 65K) for a heavier schedule. Like I said 2 years ago, the only way Storm went back to TNA is if they outbid NXT. |
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