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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 19, 2018 19:32:52 GMT -5
Also supposedly the contract he was offered by TNA was 100K a year and they paid him that in full so money isn't as big an issue either considering he said he was paying off a house I believe as well as wanting another child Which is more than most people in NXT were earning (apparently 65K) for a heavier schedule. Like I said 2 years ago, the only way Storm went back to TNA is if they outbid NXT. and at the time that seemed like a bad gambit even then as again 2 years ago was when they were in the middle of there not paying anybody... we might not have a show this week prime. that said Storm got paid every cent from all accounts so can't fault him for that now. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 19, 2018 19:39:16 GMT -5
Which is more than most people in NXT were earning (apparently 65K) for a heavier schedule. Like I said 2 years ago, the only way Storm went back to TNA is if they outbid NXT. and at the time that seemed like a bad gambit even then as again 2 years ago was when they were in the middle of there not paying anybody... we might not have a show this week prime. that said Storm got paid every cent from all accounts so can't fault him for that now. Right, looking back 2 years ago he was criticized as you would expect because who the hell goes back to TNA once they got their foot in the door in WWE Even with him doing it for his family as we found out later, this was still right in the heart of nobody is getting paid and everyone is unhappy aka Morale is high. The fact that he got paid every dollar is more power to him, and he still has a chance to go back to WWE and help NXT. Things are much different compared to the first time he was there and while he opened the door for people like Erick Young, Bobby Roode the same could be said for someone like EY keeping the option available for him as he's done a great job down in NXT |
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Jan 20, 2018 1:29:37 GMT -5
To play Devil's Advocate, look at all the stars who recently chose The WWE at some risk to their families. Kevin Owens moved his family, which, at the time, included an autistic son (people on the spectrum generally do not adapt well to change), a newborn, and his wife and parents who don't exactly have command of the English language. Somehow, he made it work and he is flourishing. AJ Styles's reasoning always was that he, too, didn't want to leave his family behind to tour, yet he found a way to have a fourth child.
Everyone's situation is different. However, it isn't realistic to have the same opportunity come around again (unless he had H's blessing).
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 20, 2018 1:45:59 GMT -5
To play Devil's Advocate, look at all the stars who recently chose The WWE at some risk to their families. Kevin Owens moved his family, which, at the time, included an autistic son (people on the spectrum generally do not adapt well to change), a newborn, and his wife and parents who don't exactly have command of the English language. Somehow, he made it work and he is flourishing. AJ Styles's reasoning always was that he, too, didn't want to leave his family behind to tour, yet he found a way to have a fourth child. Everyone's situation is different. However, it isn't realistic to have the same opportunity come around again (unless he had H's blessing). To be fair in all those scenarios, while they were making money each of those guys got name value and automatically was going to make more money. I'm sure Owens get a little extra money and while it would have been a hit compared to top ranks he can on the indies at that time, it wasn't enough that will kill him AJ would have been in TNA if WWE didn't call. He said he was hoping that WWE would call and he did talk to TNA and there was numbers thrown out there but at the end WWE called and the rest was history. He just wanted to be home with his family and obviously the money he made in WWE is significantly more compared to Storm who would have more than likely gotten a base NXT salary |
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 20, 2018 10:14:25 GMT -5
To play Devil's Advocate, look at all the stars who recently chose The WWE at some risk to their families. Kevin Owens moved his family, which, at the time, included an autistic son (people on the spectrum generally do not adapt well to change), a newborn, and his wife and parents who don't exactly have command of the English language. Somehow, he made it work and he is flourishing. AJ Styles's reasoning always was that he, too, didn't want to leave his family behind to tour, yet he found a way to have a fourth child. Everyone's situation is different. However, it isn't realistic to have the same opportunity come around again (unless he had H's blessing). To be fair in all those scenarios, while they were making money each of those guys got name value and automatically was going to make more money. I'm sure Owens get a little extra money and while it would have been a hit compared to top ranks he can on the indies at that time, it wasn't enough that will kill him AJ would have been in TNA if WWE didn't call. He said he was hoping that WWE would call and he did talk to TNA and there was numbers thrown out there but at the end WWE called and the rest was history. He just wanted to be home with his family and obviously the money he made in WWE is significantly more compared to Storm who would have more than likely gotten a base NXT salary Right, AJ's situation is unique given that he basically wrote his own ticket to the main roster and a multi-million dollar contract, including contracts for his buddies coming over with him. He can work WWE for a few years (and maybe he'll work more depending on how his body holds up), retire, and have his family pretty well set up to get all his kids through college without worry. Steen/Owens is a different matter, he did take a pretty big, legitimate risk; however, that doesn't necessitate anyone else risking the same. Plus, Steen and Storm got into this situation at different points in their careers, as well, so it's tough to draw direct comparisons. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 20, 2018 10:58:12 GMT -5
James Storm wants to go to WWE even though he was already there and left =  |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 20, 2018 11:58:46 GMT -5
To be fair in all those scenarios, while they were making money each of those guys got name value and automatically was going to make more money. I'm sure Owens get a little extra money and while it would have been a hit compared to top ranks he can on the indies at that time, it wasn't enough that will kill him AJ would have been in TNA if WWE didn't call. He said he was hoping that WWE would call and he did talk to TNA and there was numbers thrown out there but at the end WWE called and the rest was history. He just wanted to be home with his family and obviously the money he made in WWE is significantly more compared to Storm who would have more than likely gotten a base NXT salary Right, AJ's situation is unique given that he basically wrote his own ticket to the main roster and a multi-million dollar contract, including contracts for his buddies coming over with him. He can work WWE for a few years (and maybe he'll work more depending on how his body holds up), retire, and have his family pretty well set up to get all his kids through college without worry. Steen/Owens is a different matter, he did take a pretty big, legitimate risk; however, that doesn't necessitate anyone else risking the same. Plus, Steen and Storm got into this situation at different points in their careers, as well, so it's tough to draw direct comparisons. Right. In regards to AJ he got the most ideal scenario possible you want coming into WWE which is not something everyone gets. Hell, the only person who has that pull at the moment to get that type of deal is Kenny Omega In regards to Owens, yes you are correct in regards to he took a big leap and legitimate risk as well but at that point in his career he can risk it. At that point in his career, it was the "perfect" time to make the jump before he got too old or before he "got stuck" in that life and couldn't turn back. If Storm and rode it out for a year he'd more than likely be making more in one year than he did in the 2 years of TNA combined but at that point he couldn't risk that. He didn't burn a bridge with HHH/WWE and left the opportunity open for another time. If the oppurtunity passed him by so be it, but I think the work Joe, Roode, and EY has done in NXT bodes very well for him because all of them have years of experience on TV from TNA and they all could work |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 20, 2018 13:28:01 GMT -5
I haven't got a horse in this race, but I just looked this guy up and hoooooly hell the guy looks like he got in the teleporter from The Fly with 2004 and out came James Storm. Hard pass on nu metal cowboys.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 20, 2018 19:11:57 GMT -5
To be fair in all those scenarios, while they were making money each of those guys got name value and automatically was going to make more money. I'm sure Owens get a little extra money and while it would have been a hit compared to top ranks he can on the indies at that time, it wasn't enough that will kill him AJ would have been in TNA if WWE didn't call. He said he was hoping that WWE would call and he did talk to TNA and there was numbers thrown out there but at the end WWE called and the rest was history. He just wanted to be home with his family and obviously the money he made in WWE is significantly more compared to Storm who would have more than likely gotten a base NXT salary Right, AJ's situation is unique given that he basically wrote his own ticket to the main roster and a multi-million dollar contract, including contracts for his buddies coming over with him. He can work WWE for a few years (and maybe he'll work more depending on how his body holds up), retire, and have his family pretty well set up to get all his kids through college without worry. Steen/Owens is a different matter, he did take a pretty big, legitimate risk; however, that doesn't necessitate anyone else risking the same. Plus, Steen and Storm got into this situation at different points in their careers, as well, so it's tough to draw direct comparisons. I would argue that in the choice between the financially insolvent company being sued by an aging rock star based close to his home, or the monolith of his industry with a lower-deck farm league.....also based conveniently close to his home, Storm took a much, much bigger risk than Steen did. If it paid off, good for him, but still... |
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Post by schma on Jan 20, 2018 20:13:21 GMT -5
You could've been a star like Roode you dummy, but you chose wrong. Sorry bout your damn luck. Yeah, choosing his family over chasing his dream, what a moron. I suspect most of the people dumping on him had no idea. I didn't know but that makes a lot of sense. Here's hoping he gets a chance then. |
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Post by Skeletor on Jan 21, 2018 19:54:50 GMT -5
'man changes mind about occupation, people lose their shit'. This is an odd thread. I don't see people "losing their shit". I see people saying what happened. The dude made a choice. Maybe it was right for him, maybe it wasn't. You don't always get/deserve a chance to go back down the path you walked past. Especially if you walked past that nice, green pasture, and straight into a tire fire. I sharted a little tadpole. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 21, 2018 20:08:31 GMT -5
To play Devil's Advocate, look at all the stars who recently chose The WWE at some risk to their families. Kevin Owens moved his family, which, at the time, included an autistic son (people on the spectrum generally do not adapt well to change), a newborn, and his wife and parents who don't exactly have command of the English language. Somehow, he made it work and he is flourishing. AJ Styles's reasoning always was that he, too, didn't want to leave his family behind to tour, yet he found a way to have a fourth child. Everyone's situation is different. However, it isn't realistic to have the same opportunity come around again (unless he had H's blessing). To be fair in all those scenarios, while they were making money each of those guys got name value and automatically was going to make more money. I'm sure Owens get a little extra money and while it would have been a hit compared to top ranks he can on the indies at that time, it wasn't enough that will kill him AJ would have been in TNA if WWE didn't call. He said he was hoping that WWE would call and he did talk to TNA and there was numbers thrown out there but at the end WWE called and the rest was history. He just wanted to be home with his family and obviously the money he made in WWE is significantly more compared to Storm who would have more than likely gotten a base NXT salary WWE was willing to give AJ a huge contract, give his buddies money, and send them all right up to the main roster with no wait. AJ's still looking out for his family, and by all accounts his plan seems to be riding out WWE for a few more years, making enough money to very comfortably retire still "young" and solidify the futures of his children without ever having to worry about anything by raking in a few million off of WWE. This isn't a stop for him, it's his grand finale, and dude knows that the balance of that work in exchange for being able to retire earlier and give his family anything and everything is well worth the change of plan. If they'd said he needed to go to NXT this wouldn't be happening. Storm, meanwhile, had largely been brought in as a favour to Billy Gunn, and he'd just gotten fired from his coaching job because he got busted for steroids in I think powerlifting, and the company decided having a coach on the juice was a really bad example. Gunn was gone, so Storm didn't really have much appeal to WWE at the time, now that's changed and Storm can come in feeling a bit more confident they'll see him as worth doing right by. But it's really not a comparable situation there. No unknowns involved in AJ sacrificing some of his family plans for the big money, lots of unknowns in Storm sacrificing some of his family plans for the possibility of big money. |
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 21, 2018 21:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah, choosing his family over chasing his dream, what a moron. I suspect most of the people dumping on him had no idea. I didn't know but that makes a lot of sense. Here's hoping he gets a chance then. But...who cares if he chose his family over chasing his dream and left respectfully...he went to TNA! Seriously, this is the worst part of this whole thread is that between the reactions to Storm in this thread and the reactions in the TNA thread for Hania's firing (which was pretty straightforwardly the result of her being unwilling to do business and being fired for good reason)- and in both cases it represents the worst part of FAN as a whole, where it's almost like you cannot say not just anything positive about TNA, but anything that isn't overwhelmingly negative about TNA to the point of "TNA is literally the force of all evil in the whole of human existence". Whether or not Storm made the wrong decision or not (and given that he was respectful about leaving to WWE and got paid every penny by TNA, it's not that), it's not so much the hatred here as much as the knowledge that if James Storm chose to go to Ring of Honor, Lucha Underground, or New Japan then there's absolutely no hatred or mockery for his decision. |
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