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Post by Perd on Jan 31, 2018 20:59:28 GMT -5
They have been a little lackluster. I love Sami’s over the top dancing. But other than that, nothing’s really clicking.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 31, 2018 21:12:38 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly.
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Post by schma on Feb 1, 2018 0:39:42 GMT -5
I think I remember Lawler saying something about not really working out and getting his exercise from wrestling, though I could be wrong. I've got a similar body to Kevin right now and admittedly I don't work out, though I work a physical job and my eating isn't the greatest. Usually pretty good during the week then terrible on the weekend. So it is conceivable that he's not 'working out' per say but he may be practising stuff in the ring. Also, he's wrestling how many nights out of the week.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 1, 2018 0:48:40 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly. I've been feeling that way since the walkout thing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 1:06:40 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly. Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks.
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Post by Larryhausen on Feb 1, 2018 1:12:49 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly. Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks. And he'd make a ton of money to work a lot less. He'd probably love that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 1:30:28 GMT -5
Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks. And he'd make a ton of money to work a lot less. He'd probably love that. As long as he's being underwhelming some place I don't watch, I'd love that too.
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Post by vinnysimmo on Feb 1, 2018 2:14:19 GMT -5
Are we allowed to talk about the fact he refuses to take care of himself is maybe starting to catch up with him? He says he flat out doesn’t work out and doesn’t eat well, he said it just on Jericho’s podcast last week. Maybe the grind and the shape he is in is starting to have an affect on what he does in ring. I know people get crazy when you say Kevin Owens should maybe workout a little bit, but is that not a possibility? Yeah, I don't buy the "I don't work out" thing. Sure, he probably eats like shit and all that, but look at the arms on the guy. He didn't get those sitting on his ass, and they certainly didn't used to look that way. I think part of the problem is the paleness too. If he hit the tanning booths more, his arms would look meaty instead of flabby.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 1, 2018 2:21:39 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly. Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks. Maybe feuding with a McMahon in some weak story people aren't even super into and which involves such naff material isn't really the dude's career goal, especially coming off of a Universal Title reign where he was an afterthought joke booked into the spot only because the guy who was supposed to have it got injured, and in the end he dropped it in seconds. Also, there's plenty of shit outside of his direct booking that could be bothering him; some unspecified family thing he went back for, or his friend getting fired for taking a selfie with "the wrong people". There's reasons to be unhappy tht aren't "I'm not WWE champion".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 2:37:13 GMT -5
Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks. Maybe feuding with a McMahon in some weak story people aren't even super into and which involves such naff material isn't really the dude's career goal, especially coming off of a Universal Title reign where he was an afterthought joke booked into the spot only because the guy who was supposed to have it got injured, and in the end he dropped it in seconds. Also, there's plenty of shit outside of his direct booking that could be bothering him; some unspecified family thing he went back for, or his friend getting fired for taking a selfie with "the wrong people". There's reasons to be unhappy tht aren't "I'm not WWE champion". Owens not being happy (supposedly) for reasons that is everybody's fault except his own seems to be the go to excuse with him going back to when he was butting heads with Jim Cornette in ROH. Maybe it's time to start looking at the common denominator. If he's unhappy in a spot 95% percent of the roster would love to have, to the point he's spends the better part of a year seemingly going through the motions, maybe it's time for him to go away for a while. He wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before most of those things you listed happened.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 1, 2018 2:46:48 GMT -5
It's been terrible. Break them up, have KO move to Raw and do something with Sami and Becky. They have chemistry. Sami cannot play a heel.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Feb 1, 2018 5:30:15 GMT -5
I keep reading the thread title in Michael Cole's voice and cadence from Smackdown: Just Bring It.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 7:09:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't buy the "I don't work out" thing. Sure, he probably eats like shit and all that, but look at the arms on the guy. He didn't get those sitting on his ass, and they certainly didn't used to look that way. I think part of the problem is the paleness too. If he hit the tanning booths more, his arms would look meaty instead of flabby. Yeah, the t-shirt tan looks terrible.
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 1, 2018 7:19:29 GMT -5
They're close friends, right?
So... it's surprising there's so little there between them when Owens was so fun with Jericho. I keep thinking it's because they're booked to do the same shit pretty much every week.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 1, 2018 9:07:56 GMT -5
They're close friends, right? So... it's surprising there's so little there between them when Owens was so fun with Jericho. I keep thinking it's because they're booked to do the same shit pretty much every week. Reportedly all of the Owens and Jericho stuff was written by Jimmy Jacobs, who as a close friend would have a good grasp on how to write their stuff, and Jericho had a lot of clout on his end to push for what he wanted. Now they're doing material scripted by other, clearly not-as-great writers, and there's a lot to be desired in the material as they have to keep doing this weird "Yep" shit that these guys can't be eager to play to. The most chemistry they've shown in this whole thing was on the Royal Rumble pre-show where they insulted people on twitter and acted like dicks to Rosenberg, likely because there's no way that was scripted word-for-word.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Feb 1, 2018 16:36:05 GMT -5
I honestly think we're watching 2 guys on their way out. Neither have been used to anywhere near their potential, and they clearly aren't happy about it. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that they were acting out against the company pretty publicly. Owens has been involved in the main story on Smackdown since the Superstar Shakeup. If he's pouting over his spot then he can't leave soon enough, good riddance. He can have fun talking pot shots at WWE in youtube videos with the Young Bucks. And I'm sure he will have fun. And make more money. And work less. And be used better. Also, what is it that people don't get about the idea that just because you have a prominent spot doesn't mean you have a good, or more importantly the RIGHT spot? Punk and Bryan are prime examples of this. Both were over huge, but a LOT of other factors came into play that made them, and a lot of other people, unhappy with their spot. Sure, it's great that you're involved, but is it really that great to be trapped in a never-ending McMahon saga? Or to be a champion who's treated like a midcarder? Make no mistake, a guy like Jinder Mahal was treated as a midcard champion, but that's all a guy like him could even dream of being. Owens knows his own value, is one of the most consistantly over people on the roster, and both he and the crowd know that he deserves better. It's not about being champion, it's about being used to your potential, which is clearly not the situation for Owens or Zayn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 17:08:28 GMT -5
Imma keep it a buck with yall...
Owens has been trash since he's won the Universal Title. The only reason the Jericho pairing worked is because Jericho was hitting everything out of the park and he reached a new level of performer, anything that man touched from The List to the Ambrose feud to Owens in general worked. You take that away and you get Owens under-performing whether it's in promos, matches, feuds in general and hell even small things like intimidation. Anyone else notice that Owens as a character was far more intimidating before he won that title compared to afterwards? This man has been outclassed by everyone he's been feuding with from Jericho to Goldberg to Styles to Gable to I mean what? Now Zayn is out here shining more than Owens and we get another boring ass Styles feud where Styles shines on both dudes at the same time.
Owens has had worse matches with AJ Styles THAN JINDER MAHAL!!
This dude needs to turn face, go to Raw, get a new character and then needs to stay in the midcard because right now this guy's been horrible.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 1, 2018 17:15:41 GMT -5
Imma keep it a buck with yall... Owens has been trash since he's won the Universal Title. The only reason the Jericho pairing worked is because Jericho was hitting everything out of the park and he reached a new level of performer, anything that man touched from The List to the Ambrose feud to Owens in general worked. You take that away and you get Owens under-performing whether it's in promos, matches, feuds in general and hell even small things like intimidation. Anyone else notice that Owens as a character was far more intimidating before he won that title compared to afterwards? This man has been outclassed by everyone he's been feuding with from Jericho to Goldberg to Styles to Gable to I mean what? Now Zayn is out here shining more than Owens and we get another boring ass Styles feud where Styles shines on both dudes at the same time. Owens has had worse matches with AJ Styles THAN JINDER MAHAL!! This dude needs to turn face, go to Raw, get a new character and then needs to stay in the midcard because right now this guy's been horrible. This is real. A lot of people complained at the time but Goldberg deserved to beat Owens for the belt. Goldberg was crazy over, drawing interest and you could tell that the run meant something to him. Owens had a chance to show everyone that Vince and Company were wrong in 'screwing' him and Jericho by putting on an absolute clinic at Wrestlemania. Nope. A mediocre match that everyone forgot existed by the time we got to the Raw Women's Title match.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2018 17:24:14 GMT -5
Imma keep it a buck with yall... Owens has been trash since he's won the Universal Title. The only reason the Jericho pairing worked is because Jericho was hitting everything out of the park and he reached a new level of performer, anything that man touched from The List to the Ambrose feud to Owens in general worked. You take that away and you get Owens under-performing whether it's in promos, matches, feuds in general and hell even small things like intimidation. Anyone else notice that Owens as a character was far more intimidating before he won that title compared to afterwards? This man has been outclassed by everyone he's been feuding with from Jericho to Goldberg to Styles to Gable to I mean what? Now Zayn is out here shining more than Owens and we get another boring ass Styles feud where Styles shines on both dudes at the same time. Owens has had worse matches with AJ Styles THAN JINDER MAHAL!! This dude needs to turn face, go to Raw, get a new character and then needs to stay in the midcard because right now this guy's been horrible. Facts Like I get Owens being a little bummed out now and burned out dealing with injuries but he hasn't been on par for damn near over a year now Should they have separated him and Jericho during his reign sooner, sure but they were working to well together. Should they have gotten him more opponents than Seth and Roman, sure but they were the top 2 faces on Raw at that period He really needs to sit down and think on things. The face of America gimmick failed so try something new and start back up from IC/US title range or better yet just get away from belts in general because he's always around them I wouldn't mind a heated feud between him and Orton or Face KO vs Samoa Joe. He just needs a step back because he could end up on the path Sheamus was on where you get every accolade imaginable but somehow you are still stuck in a rut and Sheamus didn't get out of that until he wanted to be in a tag team and him and Cesaro have been knocking it out the park
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 1, 2018 18:37:40 GMT -5
Wow, people are throwing so much speculation in this thread, it might as well be Page 6 of the New York Post.
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