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Post by Glitch on Feb 18, 2018 1:04:31 GMT -5
Dragonball features so many memorable characters who are also great fighters. Yet it all focuses on almost entirely making Goku more powerful.
He was even willing to squash his own son's main push as the lead of the show. You know he must have whispered into Akira Toriyama's ear "he aint ready, brother."
Gohan made due with his situation by using the Great Saiyaman Man gimmick. Of course he got so over with it that Goku made sure to put a stop to it by circling the show back to be about him.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Feb 18, 2018 1:39:11 GMT -5
no. how many times could Goku have taken the fight home early, but held off so his opponents could power up. he was giving the others a chance to shine instead of jobbing them in two minutes
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Post by Zombie Mod on Feb 18, 2018 4:34:02 GMT -5
Nah I don't think he's a Hogan type, I expect he's more a hbk type, parties hard off screen gets away with a lot of shit that would get others fired all because the boss has a thing for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 5:29:35 GMT -5
Too dumb to play politics.
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Post by Doctor No on Feb 18, 2018 6:02:40 GMT -5
Goku lays down for NOBODY!!!
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 18, 2018 6:13:04 GMT -5
Too dumb to play politics. Seriously, dude used his friendship with the most powerful being in the multiverse to set up a tournament where he and his friends could be wiped out.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 18, 2018 9:54:00 GMT -5
![](http://i66.tinypic.com/s42gl5.jpg) Don't know what these politics are but they sound delicious
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 18, 2018 11:19:39 GMT -5
Creative just ran out of ideas for everyone else.
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Post by Stu on Feb 18, 2018 11:58:20 GMT -5
We can blame him for Tien being relegated to the midcard. And it wouldn't surprise me if he's the one who decided Bulma was too attractive for Yamcha and that she should be with Vegeta.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Feb 18, 2018 12:15:40 GMT -5
And it wouldn't surprise me if he's the one who decided Bulma was too attractive for Yamcha and that she should be with Vegeta. oh, here we go. what are you trying to say? Goku's a saiyan, Vegeta's a saiyan, so obviously they're doing some shady stuff? Saiyan World Order pulls the strings backstage? couldn't be that Bulma just decided to be with Vegeta on her own. no Goku had to go talk in the writer's ear. never mind the fact that the Bulma/Yamcha storyline went for forever and there was nowhere left to go with it (they're together, they're broken up, they're together, they're broken up). it was tired and played out and needed a change. why should Bulma have to suffer life with curtain jerker who's more interested in hanging out with a shape shifting cat than developing his character when there is a fresh white-hot new talent just skyrocketing to the main event?
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 18, 2018 12:27:44 GMT -5
We can blame him for Tien being relegated to the midcard. And it wouldn't surprise me if he's the one who decided Bulma was too attractive for Yamcha and that she should be with Vegeta. Yamcha's much better looking than Vegeta though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 12:40:03 GMT -5
The funny thing is! i always saw how things went down in buu saga, very wrestling like.
Cell saga was pretty much a torch pass moment, a young star Gohan is gonna be the star now! but nope. he's not over, so let's bring Goku back
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Post by tenshi on Feb 18, 2018 13:24:27 GMT -5
And it wouldn't surprise me if he's the one who decided Bulma was too attractive for Yamcha and that she should be with Vegeta. oh, here we go. what are you trying to say? Goku's a saiyan, Vegeta's a saiyan, so obviously they're doing some shady stuff? Saiyan World Order pulls the strings backstage? couldn't be that Bulma just decided to be with Vegeta on her own. no Goku had to go talk in the writer's ear. never mind the fact that the Bulma/Yamcha storyline went for forever and there was nowhere left to go with it (they're together, they're broken up, they're together, they're broken up). it was tired and played out and needed a change. why should Bulma have to suffer life with curtain jerker who's more interested in hanging out with a shape shifting cat than developing his character when there is a fresh white-hot new talent just skyrocketing to the main event? You say that but Vegeta being held down by Goku has been going on for years. People have been asking for a Vegeta main event run for what feels like forever but he's always the bridesmaid, never the bride, making sure that Goku looks strong at the end instead of being the top guy himself.
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Post by Facetious on Feb 18, 2018 13:30:35 GMT -5
The funny thing is! i always saw how things went down in buu saga, very wrestling like. Cell saga was pretty much a torch pass moment, a young star Gohan is gonna be the star now! but nope. he's not over, so let's bring Goku back Hey now, Goku tried his damnest to get Gohan over. He jobbed to Cell TWICE so that Gohan could get his big DBZ moment. And you know what? Gohan dun blew it. Dude got lazy and wanted to focus on other projects. He had it coming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 13:32:26 GMT -5
The funny thing is! i always saw how things went down in buu saga, very wrestling like. Cell saga was pretty much a torch pass moment, a young star Gohan is gonna be the star now! but nope. he's not over, so let's bring Goku back Hey now, Goku tried his damnest to get Gohan over. He jobbed to Cell TWICE so that Gohan could get his big DBZ moment. And you know what? Gohan dun blew it. Dude got lazy and wanted to focus on other projects. He had it coming. oh no! i'm not blaming Goku! i blame the writers and the bookers
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 18, 2018 13:53:40 GMT -5
(As an aside, writing TV shows like they’re backstage politics of pro wrestling is my goddamn jam
This is no exception)
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 18, 2018 14:55:51 GMT -5
Y'know *coughs* Goku...yeah, Goku was and is a draw. He's a great worker as well, y'know. His-his ability to draw them in is second to, in my opinion, *coughs* Ric Flair. And there's a thought: Goku under Dusty's booking....
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Post by Jiren on Feb 18, 2018 17:31:35 GMT -5
You think Goku holding down people in Z was bad, GT was a whole different level.
I'm talking Jeff Jarrett TNA level of spotlight hogging
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 18, 2018 17:51:13 GMT -5
Y'know *coughs* Goku...yeah, Goku was and is a draw. He's a great worker as well, y'know. His-his ability to draw them in is second to, in my opinion, *coughs* Ric Flair. And there's a thought: Goku under Dusty's booking.... Yeah yeah yeah, because you see, uh, the thing is...Frieza was, like, uh, really over-pushed at the beginning. So uh *coughs*, when uh, Krillin put him over, Goku just, uh, he ran with the ball. No, I don't mean the actual Dragon Balls, because, you see, uh. Bulma, she was a really solid worker and looked, uh...really strong when she hunted them down. I mean the business ball, because let's keep in mind- Dusty and Jim Crockett would have totally made Vegeta their top star. But, uh, y'know Goku, he uh..*cough*...he was always more of a Vince McMahon guy. Maybe Baba would have pushed him, who knows? Uh....I don't see Inoki making Goku the guy. NJPW in the 90's would have probably...uh..picked Piccolo instead.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 18, 2018 18:17:54 GMT -5
Meltzer gives Goku vs Jiren ****** and names Goku the MVP of the Tournament, Fans are outraged as everyone knows it's 17.
Toriyama was asked why Vegeta never got a major push, Toriyama responded with "Too Saiyan"
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