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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 24, 2018 11:58:44 GMT -5
It was Daivari. I remember him telling the story about the Hindu squats. Dude was pissing blood because his leg muscles were so shredded by it. I thought he done them to try impress Benoit and it wasn’t a punishment? That was the original story I heard too. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 24, 2018 12:08:33 GMT -5
I really wish someone had stood up to him, JBL, and Holly back in the day. Someone needed to. Cyrus/Jackyl stood up to JBL and it made things worse. Like most bullies, guy is selective about his targets, making sure to go after guys like him and Miz, who couldn't fight him and where no-one had their backs. Yeah, when Brock started on the main roster, despite him being as much of a rookie as anyone, word is JBL was immediately grovelling and carrying his bags. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 12:13:40 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe it's the benefit of hindsight but some of the stories and things you read and see about Benoit even from really early in his career now just scream "this dude is a budding sociopath". I remember HHH's story from the Benoit tribute show about him making a disrespectful rookie do squats until he pissed blood. The news about the murders was breaking literally while the show was airing, and it was fascinating hearing Hunter recall an anecdote that he probably intended as a compliment about how dedicated Benoit was to the business, only the context we were getting made it hard to think of it as anything but a precedent for Chris Benoit violently overreacting to perceived slights. That and the story Ken Anderson has told about Benoit being an absolute POS to Palmer Canon and spouting off about how “nice guys don’t belong in our f****** locker room or ring” were the exact two stories I was thinking of. I never liked Benoit much anyway so I lose sight of how much of what I think about him is in hindsight, but I don’t believe for even a remote second that he was somehow a “nice guy who just succumbed to a brain injury.” He had some intrinsic personality traits that were exacerbated by the TBI. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Feb 24, 2018 12:35:41 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Benoit may not have been right in the head. CTE from all those STUPID diving headbutts. He was always an asshole, even early in his career. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Feb 24, 2018 12:43:48 GMT -5
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 24, 2018 13:33:10 GMT -5
Cyrus/Jackyl stood up to JBL and it made things worse. Like most bullies, guy is selective about his targets, making sure to go after guys like him and Miz, who couldn't fight him and where no-one had their backs. Yeah, when Brock started on the main roster, despite him being as much of a rookie as anyone, word is JBL was immediately grovelling and carrying his bags. Yeah, Ivory said as much. Brock was the perfect storm of everything JBL feared, smart, huge, a legit athlete and incredibly well connected, people forget that the WWE spent a lot of money to recruit him and gave him privileged status from day one so Bradshaw woud have been out if he tried anything. |
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Post by Squirrel Master on Feb 24, 2018 13:57:01 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Benoit may not have been right in the head. CTE from all those STUPID diving headbutts. He was always an asshole, even early in his career. There were plenty of instances where Benoit took needless blows to the cranium . For example, I just watched a Smackdown episode from 2005, the one where Boogeyman debuted. William Regal and Benoit had a spot where Benoit was down on the mat, his head was next to the ringpost and Regal kicked Benoit's head against the post. YEESH! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 14:48:37 GMT -5
He probably had small man syndrome.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 24, 2018 14:57:29 GMT -5
Cyrus/Jackyl stood up to JBL and it made things worse. Like most bullies, guy is selective about his targets, making sure to go after guys like him and Miz, who couldn't fight him and where no-one had their backs. As time goes in I enjoy that shot of Stevie walloping him in the head with that chair more and more. OK, just cause this thread needs some lightening up....let me say it's surreal to see Benoit, Holly, and Stevie mentioned in the same thread and legit this time. I also see why people would use Hardcore Holly to replace Chris Benoit in narratives now. But sadly....bullies will always have a cult (and I mean CULT, like Waco bad) following in this business. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 24, 2018 14:59:49 GMT -5
When I read eddies autobiography, he had nothing but nice things to say about Chris talking about how he would always go out of his way for him and shit. I wonder if Eddies death f***ed him up this bad or if he was just a piece of shit to people he didn't like and was a good friend to those he was friends with Oh, there's people who'll whitewash their friends and such. Or are afraid of them, plain and simple. |
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 24, 2018 16:13:41 GMT -5
I do wish the narrative of head injuries made him kill his family would stop. It loses credibility when you go back and watch Mick Foleys skull being used as a pinata at the 99 Royal Rumble (among many other bumps) and them see what a good father/husband he is.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 24, 2018 16:26:18 GMT -5
What did they do? I ain't looking up a tribute show for Benoit  With Regal, all he did was talk about how Benoit was the most dedicated wrestler. He wasn't crying, he didn't say Benoit was a great guy, on a night where people were crying and giving emotional speeches, Regal was very serious with not much emotion. There's no doubt that Regal knew deep down before it became official. He even opened up his tribute to the degree of "at a later date, I'd like to tell you all the things I really want to say", like he knew something was coming and would feel a lot more comfortable once that something had died down. |
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Post by The Blue Nova on Feb 24, 2018 16:32:16 GMT -5
Even hypothetically speaking benoit had not had murdered his family. I still think he was a scumbag. The way he bullied the young talent was deplorable I a for one am glad that people like him JBL and hardcore holly are no longer in the locker room.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 24, 2018 16:36:48 GMT -5
This reminds me of a story from Matt Striker's shoot interview where he said Benoit would give rookies (like himself) a hard time because that's how it needed to be, but when Striker was getting bullied by Benoit and JBL, William Regal actually spoke up and said he had no problem with Striker and the issues died down right away.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 24, 2018 16:59:20 GMT -5
Baseball players also seem to be incredibly hung up on any perceived slight or 'unwritten rules'. I guess when you have a lot of downtime you have nothing to do but think of ways that youngsters are disrespecting 'the business'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 17:46:03 GMT -5
props to Miz for not quitting despite all the shit that happened to him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 18:18:17 GMT -5
Miz and Kane are the examples that people should look at for locker room leaders. You haven't heard one single story of them being bullies backstage. What did they do? I ain't looking up a tribute show for Benoit With Regal, all he did was talk about how Benoit was the most dedicated wrestler. He wasn't crying, he didn't say Benoit was a great guy, on a night where people were crying and giving emotional speeches, Regal was very serious with not much emotion. There's no doubt that Regal knew deep down before it became official. I remember reading a story in one of the books about Benoit or somewhere that JBL asked Regal is he thought Benoit did it before he went on camera. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 24, 2018 20:43:57 GMT -5
I do wish the narrative of head injuries made him kill his family would stop. It loses credibility when you go back and watch Mick Foleys skull being used as a pinata at the 99 Royal Rumble (among many other bumps) and them see what a good father/husband he is. I don't think it's fair or accurate to make comparisons of brain injuries like that; each and every one of them is different and causes very different things. Due to the structure and function of the brain, each and every injury produces a completely unique syndrome within it, and there's no real way to make any sort of across-the-board assumption like that. With that said, and I want to keep this part brief because I'm much happier that we're mostly praising Miz here and not focusing quite as much on Benoit; I hero-worshipped Benoit from just about the time I first saw him in Stampede and was a fan ever since...until the murders and all the stories that started coming out about what a complete and total asshole he was over the years. I have little doubt that the cumulutive head injuries played a major factor in his actions that night, but ultimately, they do not excuse them; Chris was a piece of shit long before that. Yes, there were and are people that still love him and want to show that there was a good man in there somewhere, and I can't deny that. Every human being on this planet isn't evil incarnate nor a saint born. There were people he was wonderful to, and there were people he was an absolute shitbag to. But his actions in treating some well and right do not erase the over-the-top bullying he was committing against others. Like any other human, there were many shades to his persona, and the worst parts will always be what defines him forever more, as well they should. He's a murderer and a child-killer, and that's his lasting legacy. Okay, so much for 'brief'. At the end of the day, the best thing to take out of this conversation isn't anything to do with Benoit. Miz deserves every bit of success he has and ever gets for not only putting up with and enduring this sort of thing over the years (and he still does, to an extent), and is one of the best success stories ever to come out of this business. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 21:01:37 GMT -5
This reminds me of a story from Matt Striker's shoot interview where he said Benoit would give rookies (like himself) a hard time because that's how it needed to be, but when Striker was getting bullied by Benoit and JBL, William Regal actually spoke up and said he had no problem with Striker and the issues died down right away. Which translates into Regal-speak as: "Give the poor lad any more trouble and I'll leave the two of you in an alley in a pool of your own blood and you know bloody well I'll enjoy myself while doing it". |
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Post by wgdj on Feb 24, 2018 21:51:36 GMT -5
That "heckler" is such a mark. After watching that video I'm somewhat ashamed to be a wrestling fan. What a moron. |
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