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Post by Sir Woodrow on Mar 19, 2018 17:44:11 GMT -5
Tamara's never seen such f***ing bullshit
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2018 17:49:29 GMT -5
Okay, she didn't say it but I will say it. If they can't control themselves but to respond every time someone tweets them about CA then they lack basic self-control at best and are trying to paint themselves as victims years later at worst. By all accounts, they hadn’t discussed it for years unless I really missed a collection of conversations after the last set 3 years ago so why suddenly discussing it now a bad thing? Especially when, as mentioned, nobody’s really addressed it even though they really should at this point. Heck, I’d much rather they talked about it more to get something out there in the same way more people should be speaking out who used to work at WhatCulture for their “Get rid of people when they’re too popular and want to be paid as such” policy that’s ditched, like, half the people they have. The drama was all played out as-it-happene years ago. Anyone who cared about it back then knew about it as it was happening, and now years later it isn't really relevant to anything that it happened (in whatever form it actually did happen). Doug's moved on and a lot of the former CA people have moved on to either their own videos or other jobs altogether. It's not exactly a secret that Doug Walker is not the best person to be working for/with at this point. Channel Awesome is a shell of what it used to be. None of these people are professionals at anything they're doing- they're basically all amateurs trying to make a quick buck on ad revenue doing reviews, and when you get a bunch of amateurs together sometimes this kind of drama happens. I guarantee you that Doug Walker never hired a lawyer to make any of them sign any contracts and none of them had lawyers to read over said contracts. I bet everything was done on a handshake deal between people who had no idea what they were doing from any side. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 19, 2018 17:55:32 GMT -5
The drama was all played out as-it-happene years ago. Anyone who cared about it back then knew about it as it was happening, and now years later it isn't really relevant to anything that it happened (in whatever form it actually did happen). And? Again, it’s not like they’ve spent years ranting and raving about it (unless, again, I missed a few dozen conversations on social media or long video rants or something, I don’t follow some of these people closely), they were asked and responded. It’s not like anything’ll happen in reality or Doug’ll suddenly admit to this stuff and it’s not like CA’ll sue because they probably don’t have the means and money to do it. It’s literally doing nobody harm to answer a question asked about it from someone who, according to you, shouldn’t have cared anymore. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 19, 2018 17:56:06 GMT -5
As someone who enjoys Rob and Doug's analysis on films, all of these stories are pretty disappointing to hear.
I think the "angry snarky critic who yells a lot at clips and has a ton of wacky skits" trend of videos that creators like James Rolfe (whose work I feel is great) popularized has been passé for quite a while. Full reviews, editorials and panels seem to be the order of the present day.
That's why I prefer the Sibling Rivalry and "real thoughts" videos over the NC character screeching and waving his gun around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 17:56:48 GMT -5
And somewhere, Spoony is recording a livestream on Youtube at three in the morning that twelve people are watching. Gotta keep working the patreon marks to buy socks.
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2018 18:00:17 GMT -5
The drama was all played out as-it-happene years ago. Anyone who cared about it back then knew about it as it was happening, and now years later it isn't really relevant to anything that it happened (in whatever form it actually did happen). And? Again, it’s not like they’ve spent years ranting and raving about it (unless, again, I missed a few dozen conversations on social media or long video rants or something, I don’t follow some of these people closely), they were asked and responded. It’s not like anything’ll happen in reality or Doug’ll suddenly admit to this stuff and it’s not like CA’ll sue because they probably don’t have the means and money to do it. It’s literally doing nobody harm to answer a question asked about it from someone who, according to you, shouldn’t have cared anymore. Allison and Lindsay have mentioned it often enough in the last few years that I've heard ab out it despite not following them directly on social media. I'm not saying they mention it every week or every month but they do bring it up fairly regularly. That's my point- Doug isn't going to do anything about it and it doesn't make the complainers look any better by continuing to complain about it. They should just ignore any incoming questions or comments about it and let their post-CA work speak for itself. It's just bad PR to keep playing the victim for years after they were fired (or left or whatever). |
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2018 18:01:37 GMT -5
And somewhere, Spoony is recording a livestream on Youtube at three in the morning that twelve people are watching. Gotta keep working the patreon marks to buy socks. On one hand I feel bad for Noah because of his mental health issues. On the other hand, he's fleecing his fans in a big way and stopped caring about creating quality content years ago and keeps taking in Patreon money, so... He used to create quality content on a regular basis though, and I really miss that kind of effort he used to put into his videos. |
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2018 18:04:21 GMT -5
As someone who enjoys Rob and Doug's analysis on films, all of these stories are pretty disappointing to hear. I think the "angry snarky critic who yells a lot at clips and has a ton of wacky skits" trend of videos that creators like James Rolfe (whose work I feel is great) popularized has been passé for quite a while. Full reviews, editorials and panels seem to be the order of the present day. That's why I prefer the Sibling Rivalry and "real thoughts" videos over the NC character screeching and waving his gun around. Yeah, I like when Doug and Rob just film themselves talking about the movie they've seen or the movie they've seen for a N.C review. I'd much rather see that than a lot of the skit-heavy N.C reviews. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 19, 2018 18:05:23 GMT -5
Just found out that Spoony is now banned from Twitter, the sad part is the only part of that that surprises me is that fact that it just happened in January.
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2018 18:07:18 GMT -5
Just found out that Spoony is now banned from Twitter, the sad part is the only part of that that surprises me is that fact that it just happened in January. Yeah, it should have happened a long time ago- like back when he made that terrible (so-called) "joke" to Allison. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 19, 2018 18:11:37 GMT -5
Nobody said that, and I'd ask that you please not use strawman tactics in such discussions. Okay, she didn't say it but I will say it. If they can't control themselves but to respond every time someone tweets them about CA then they lack basic self-control at best and are trying to paint themselves as victims years later at worst. But who says they respond "every time"? Who said this is about "painting themselves as victims"? Way too much projection going on, here. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 19, 2018 18:12:09 GMT -5
And somewhere, Spoony is recording a livestream on Youtube at three in the morning that twelve people are watching. Gotta keep working the patreon marks to buy socks. On one hand I feel bad for Noah because of his mental health issues. On the other hand, he's fleecing his fans in a big way and stopped caring about creating quality content years ago and keeps taking in Patreon money, so... He used to create quality content on a regular basis though, and I really miss that kind of effort he used to put into his videos. At this point I can't even say I feel bad for people giving Noah money anymore because it's blatantly obvious he has no intention of delivering anything. And that's a real shame to see how far he's fallen given that he used to be my favorite. He's basically just a conman now. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 19, 2018 18:54:14 GMT -5
She's done just fine for herself in the years since she was released from/left CA (in fact her videos are much better now than they were when she was with CA) so I don't really even know why she still feels the need to talk about Doug/CA several years later. Oh wait, yes I do. Lindsay's moved on to other career opportunities (by and large) and still makes her own videos on her own YouTube Channel yet she still won't stop talking about Doug/CA either. I mean, you'd think they would have moved on by now and just let CA die off like it probably is destined to do within the next few years, but no, they keep giving Doug and the site plenty of their attention and time. These are bitter, angry people who just can't seem to move on with their lives despite finding continued (and well-deserved) success after their time with CA ended.  Lindsay is doing well for herself (dont forget about that Rape Rap video) and Linkara should be happy that the stuff between him and Iron Liz happen a couple year ago instead today. You mean the one she made 9 years ago and deleted after a few hours when she read the feedback on it? Noone would even remember that video existed if it wasn't for edgelord jackasses like Metokur still bringing it up |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 18:59:45 GMT -5
*Remembers when I desperately wanted Red Letter Media to be apart of TGWTG*
Thank god that didn't happen.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 19, 2018 19:05:32 GMT -5
The only people from Channel Awesome I have watched more than a few vids from are....
Linkara-Watched a few and got tired of how little he knows about comics. And how all the stuff he hates about modern work from Frank Miller was there in Frank's early work. Never seen Linkara call Frank out for that.
Todd in the Shadows-I only watch his One Hit Wonderland videos,which I really enjoy. My lady loves his best of and worst of year videos. But she also still kinda keeps up with top 40 radio.
Tried out Doug's stuff and it wasn't for me. Watched some Cinema Snob and yea not for me.
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Post by wildojinx on Mar 19, 2018 19:11:01 GMT -5
Only ones I still keep up with are Linkara (but only when he's reviewing something that I'm interested in or sounds interesting), Todd, and Rocked Reviews (mostly regretting the past and the top 10 lists, but his regular reviews are good too, if just to keep up with current rock).
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 19, 2018 19:25:43 GMT -5
The only people from Channel Awesome I have watched more than a few vids from are.... Linkara-Watched a few and got tired of how little he knows about comics. And how all the stuff he hates about modern work from Frank Miller was there in Frank's early work. Never seen Linkara call Frank out for that. Todd in the Shadows-I only watch his One Hit Wonderland videos,which I really enjoy. My lady loves his best of and worst of year videos. But she also still kinda keeps up with top 40 radio. Tried out Doug's stuff and it wasn't for me. Watched some Cinema Snob and yea not for me. I will say that as I get older and more versed in comics that Linkara's hardly the expert he claims to be(He's especially lacking when it comes to Indy comics). He also blankets everything dark and edgy as being bad when that's simply not true and it leaves me feeling he's intentionally ignoring a large segment of really good comics because of a somewhat childish personal bias. |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 19, 2018 19:38:47 GMT -5
The only people from Channel Awesome I have watched more than a few vids from are.... Linkara-Watched a few and got tired of how little he knows about comics. And how all the stuff he hates about modern work from Frank Miller was there in Frank's early work. Never seen Linkara call Frank out for that. Todd in the Shadows-I only watch his One Hit Wonderland videos,which I really enjoy. My lady loves his best of and worst of year videos. But she also still kinda keeps up with top 40 radio. Tried out Doug's stuff and it wasn't for me. Watched some Cinema Snob and yea not for me. I will say that as I get older and more versed in comics that Linkara's hardly the expert he claims to be(He's especially lacking when it comes to Indy comics). He also blankets everything dark and edgy as being bad when that's simply not true and it leaves me feeling he's intentionally ignoring a large segment of really good comics because of a somewhat childish personal bias. I know part of my issues with Linkara are my own fault. Been reading comics since 1977 and besides a 5 year gap from 99 until 2004 I have read at least 5 comics each month.Been tempted to do some comic history videos. But want to cover old stuff that I never see mentioned. Like the early 80s Marvel published Team America series. Or even more modern stuff like the short lived Peter Bagge/Hernandez brother all ages series YEAH!. From watching the videos it feels like Linkara's indy comic knowledge is limited to stuff that came out after 2000 and then all the 90s glut companies like Image and Valiant. But yea his blanketing anything that is a bit grim or dark as being bad gets tiresome. I will give him this the dude knows Power Rangers and Star Trek very well. His unboxing videos,the more recent ones done with his fiancee,are pretty entertaining. But more of that is cause she is very entertaining. Speaking of comic reviewers on Youtube,is there any of them that cover older stuff. Like say 80s b/w indy stuff or hell even the various late 70s indy stuff. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 19, 2018 20:00:35 GMT -5
The only people from Channel Awesome I have watched more than a few vids from are.... Linkara-Watched a few and got tired of how little he knows about comics. And how all the stuff he hates about modern work from Frank Miller was there in Frank's early work. Never seen Linkara call Frank out for that. Todd in the Shadows-I only watch his One Hit Wonderland videos,which I really enjoy. My lady loves his best of and worst of year videos. But she also still kinda keeps up with top 40 radio. Tried out Doug's stuff and it wasn't for me. Watched some Cinema Snob and yea not for me. I will say that as I get older and more versed in comics that Linkara's hardly the expert he claims to be(He's especially lacking when it comes to Indy comics). He also blankets everything dark and edgy as being bad when that's simply not true and it leaves me feeling he's intentionally ignoring a large segment of really good comics because of a somewhat childish personal bias. Dude's also way too harsh on the 90s stuff, especially for someone who wasn't reading/was a very young kid back then. So much of that stuff you have to take into the context of the time. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 19, 2018 20:17:08 GMT -5
I will say that as I get older and more versed in comics that Linkara's hardly the expert he claims to be(He's especially lacking when it comes to Indy comics). He also blankets everything dark and edgy as being bad when that's simply not true and it leaves me feeling he's intentionally ignoring a large segment of really good comics because of a somewhat childish personal bias. Dude's also way too harsh on the 90s stuff, especially for someone who wasn't reading/was a very young kid back then. So much of that stuff you have to take into the context of the time. I'll also be fair and cop to some personal biases because IMO Jim Lee's Wildstorm imprint was putting out the very best superhero comics from the point Warren Ellis wrote Stormwatch until the Worlds End crap. THAT STUFF is how you do dark and edgy superhero works and reconstruct the genre at the same time And I feel it gets ignored too often. |
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