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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 29, 2018 17:31:36 GMT -5
John K's got a long and storied history of being a pretty divisive figure in animation, being seen as talented, but also a tyrant to work under and prone to tantrums, missed deadlines, and bridge burning. Add sexual abuse to that, in what was apparently an open secret. Robyn Byrd, his ex live-in girlfriend, met him when she was 13, and says he initiated a sexual relationship with her at 16, while he was in his late 30s. He moved her in with him not long after, and disturbingly, that doesn't even really seem to be in dispute. Though, he also stands accused by others and had something of a reputation for it in the industry. I knew he was a jackoff, I didn't know it was to THIS extent, though, yeesh. www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse?utm_term=.yeEE7Wz08#.km37NdvO2I do caution you, though, it's not a pretty read. Between this, the "Clarence" creator, and other stories, this is sadly not an isolated incident in animation. I'm glad that women have more of a foothold now than they once did, but it's still scary how at the mercy of men a lot of these animators seem to be in order to get work at all.
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Post by lionheart21 on Mar 29, 2018 17:39:35 GMT -5
Ren & Stimpy was one of my favorites when I was a kid. It's a shame that I now have to know it was created by a monster.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 29, 2018 17:52:58 GMT -5
Ren & Stimpy was one of my favorites when I was a kid. It's a shame that I now have to know it was created by a monster. Yeah, even before this, I was really disappointed to hear what a tyrant he could be to the animators working under him, but obviously, this is a whole other level of scumbaggery than being a harsh taskmaster.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Mar 29, 2018 17:59:11 GMT -5
I wish I could say this suprised me. But honestly, it really doesn't.
Always seemed like a dodgy character.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 29, 2018 18:18:38 GMT -5
John K being a creep doesn't EXACTLY surprise me given his already dodgy reputation but.. god damn it Hollywood.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 29, 2018 18:42:53 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but isn't one of the victims on a couple commentary tracks with John K for the looney tunes golden collections?
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Mar 29, 2018 18:43:08 GMT -5
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This video features one of the women who are accusing him, and her mannerisms tell the story.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 29, 2018 19:21:03 GMT -5
A good point made on twitter by someone was, while it's totally understandable to be furious with the people who stood by, as you should, that the cult of personality around John K. at one point made it very difficult for someone to do something even if they did speak up. He was practically hero worshipped by a lot of people, and it could be damaging to your career to express so much as not liking him, much less accusing him of this outright.
It doesn't change that more should have and could have been done, but on that level, I see the hesitation, even if I still think it's more than a little cowardice. People didn't want to hear it, they were too busy heaping praise on the golden boy. It took him missing deadlines and becoming a problem professionally for anything to knock him off of his roost.
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 29, 2018 20:19:24 GMT -5
(language) This video features one of the women who are accusing him, and her mannerisms tell the story. Oh god that would've been uncomfortable to watch even without knowing about his scumminess.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 29, 2018 21:58:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not having any trouble believing this.
It's a shame that it was an open secret, but as stated dude was the golden boy if anyone did speak up nothing would or did come of it.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 29, 2018 22:07:50 GMT -5
I'm shocked that a man who worshipped, idolized and was mentored by a thieving psychopath would turn out to be like that.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 29, 2018 22:43:59 GMT -5
I'm shocked that a man who worshipped, idolized and was mentored by a thieving psychopath would turn out to be like that. Which psychopath are you speaking of sir? There is a few in the animation industry. But yea John K has seemed a bit off and sleazy since the Ren and Stimpy days. There was a kinda creepy interview with him in an old issue of Wild Cartoon Kingdom. I need to see if I can find my issue and get some quotes out of it.
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 29, 2018 22:50:31 GMT -5
Wasn't John K also behind the awful reboot of Ren & Stimpy on Spike that was like, really raunchy and disturbing?
In retrospect, there are a lot of red flags.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 29, 2018 22:55:20 GMT -5
Wasn't John K also behind the awful reboot of Ren & Stimpy on Spike that was like, really raunchy and disturbing? Yes, Adult Party was John K without anyone overseeing him. (said people overseeing him are the ones that dumped his ass and replaced him with people that basically went out of their way to mock him by ending every episode without him with this.) Not to mention Reverend Jack Cheese.
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Post by horseface on Mar 29, 2018 23:08:45 GMT -5
Not surprised in the slightest.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 29, 2018 23:16:03 GMT -5
(And given its Billy West this reaction video almost fits perfectly.)
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 29, 2018 23:59:38 GMT -5
Add me to the list of people who weren't surprised in the slightest about this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 0:05:25 GMT -5
And down another scumbag falls. I hope those who suffered his abuse find justice and peace.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 30, 2018 0:47:49 GMT -5
No sir, I don't like it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 2:31:08 GMT -5
not surprised by the slightest..
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