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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 1, 2018 9:16:09 GMT -5
The sad thing is, if they had just let him make a straight up Dark Knight Returns adaptation like he seems to have wanted, it probably would have turned out pretty good. I don't think so, since he clearly never read the book. collider.com/batman-v-superman-killing-zack-snyder/Nothing Snyder would've done or could've done would be good. Because he's a bad director. He's a liar and a hack. As is his wife.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 1, 2018 9:42:22 GMT -5
It seems that's the direction they're heading in, with Aquaman and WW84 not being beholden to any of the crap Snyder established. Henry Cavill is also pushing to play classic red trunks Superman and throwing out the old stuff. Hell, Justice League was already moving in that direction, with the "Superman's death made the whole world sad" thing that ignores the whole "should there be a Superman" debate from BvS. Which is ironic, considering Justice League was Frankensteined, in part, from Snyder's dumbass ideas. Superman: "I believe in truth. But, I'm also a big fan of justice." *punches Steppenwolf and sends him flying* Henry Cavill (the first time he read it): "f***ing finally, I've been wanting this for multiple movies. Holy crap, I actually get to smile quite a bit." Fans seeing it for the first time: "It's about damn time. He's acting like Superman."
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 1, 2018 10:10:45 GMT -5
The sad thing is, if they had just let him make a straight up Dark Knight Returns adaptation like he seems to have wanted, it probably would have turned out pretty good. I don't think so, since he clearly never read the book. collider.com/batman-v-superman-killing-zack-snyder/Nothing Snyder would've done or could've done would be good. Because he's a bad director. He's a liar and a hack. As is his wife. f***ing moron. There are literally multiple instances in the book where Batman references not killing anyone. Multiple. So this isn't a situation of Snyder misinterpreting the work. He's just outright lying about having read it.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 1, 2018 10:11:46 GMT -5
f***ing moron. There are literally multiple instances in the book where Batman references not killing anyone. Multiple. So this isn't a situation of Snyder misinterpreting the work. He's just outright lying about having read it. When you fake a book report, you pick a book you know no one has read. Not f***ing To Kill A Mockingbird.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 1, 2018 10:25:19 GMT -5
f***ing moron. There are literally multiple instances in the book where Batman references not killing anyone. Multiple. So this isn't a situation of Snyder misinterpreting the work. He's just outright lying about having read it. Seriously, This isn't people saying Batman just outright beats Superman in a fight... which misinterprets what happens... massively... Batman not killing is a major plot point of the book, and what Joker's entire plan pretty much hinges on.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 1, 2018 10:28:37 GMT -5
f***ing moron. There are literally multiple instances in the book where Batman references not killing anyone. Multiple. So this isn't a situation of Snyder misinterpreting the work. He's just outright lying about having read it. When you fake a book report, you pick a book you know no one has read. Not f***ing To Kill A Mockingbird. Reminds me of the time I was a film major in college and in World Cinema we had to do a presentation. My group ended up getting assigned Indian director Mira Nair. None of us actually read the section in the book about her, and I don't think that was intentional. Senioritis just hit hard. We ended up mostly winging it based on Wikipedia or something. The professor asked whether Mira Nair was a big success in India, and we weren't able to answer. (Her films are more popular outside of India) Turns out the professor is a huge Indian cinema devotee, travels there on a semi-regular basis, and Mira Nair was her favorite director whom she had the pleasure of hosting for an event of some kind. Oops. EDIT: college, not high school.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 1, 2018 14:15:46 GMT -5
When you fake a book report, you pick a book you know no one has read. Not f***ing To Kill A Mockingbird. Reminds me of the time I was a film major in high school and in World Cinema we had to do a presentation. My group ended up getting assigned Indian director Mira Nair. None of us actually read the section in the book about her, and I don't think that was intentional. Senioritis just hit hard. We ended up mostly winging it based on Wikipedia or something. The professor asked whether Mira Nair was a big success in India, and we weren't able to answer. (Her films are more popular outside of India) Turns out the professor is a huge Indian cinema devotee, travels there on a semi-regular basis, and Mira Nair was her favorite director whom she had the pleasure of hosting for an event of some kind. Oops. If you did something like this working for Warner Bros., they'd give you a promotion.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Aug 1, 2018 14:19:27 GMT -5
Reminds me of the time I was a film major in high school and in World Cinema we had to do a presentation. My group ended up getting assigned Indian director Mira Nair. None of us actually read the section in the book about her, and I don't think that was intentional. Senioritis just hit hard. We ended up mostly winging it based on Wikipedia or something. The professor asked whether Mira Nair was a big success in India, and we weren't able to answer. (Her films are more popular outside of India) Turns out the professor is a huge Indian cinema devotee, travels there on a semi-regular basis, and Mira Nair was her favorite director whom she had the pleasure of hosting for an event of some kind. Oops. If you did something like this working for Warner Bros., they'd give you a promotion. Hell, they'd give you a billion dollar franchise to f*** over.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 1, 2018 14:35:27 GMT -5
The sad thing is, if they had just let him make a straight up Dark Knight Returns adaptation like he seems to have wanted, it probably would have turned out pretty good. I don't think so, since he clearly never read the book. collider.com/batman-v-superman-killing-zack-snyder/Nothing Snyder would've done or could've done would be good. Because he's a bad director. He's a liar and a hack. As is his wife. Given the amount of times I've had Sny-hards use the same logic whenever I bring up that Snyder clearly hasn't read TDKR or didn't understand Batman's key moral stance, I assume this conversation happened at some point: "I'm not gonna be the one who has Batman shoot someone in the head, bro!" "Zack, what about the 30+ guys Batman directly turned into meat jelly with the chainguns attached to the Batwing and Batmobile?" "Doesn't count, bro. Batman wasn't holding the guns in his hand."
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 1, 2018 16:22:30 GMT -5
Maybe he confused TDKR with All-Star Batman and Robin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 1, 2018 16:48:59 GMT -5
f***ing moron. There are literally multiple instances in the book where Batman references not killing anyone. Multiple. So this isn't a situation of Snyder misinterpreting the work. He's just outright lying about having read it. There's literally a scene where Batman shatters a rifle with his goddamn hand. You'd think that would have stood out to Zack if he actually had read it. Hell, Justice League was already moving in that direction, with the "Superman's death made the whole world sad" thing that ignores the whole "should there be a Superman" debate from BvS. Which is ironic, considering Justice League was Frankensteined, in part, from Snyder's dumbass ideas. Superman: "I believe in truth. But, I'm also a big fan of justice." *punches Steppenwolf and sends him flying* Henry Cavill (the first time he read it): "f***ing finally, I've been wanting this for multiple movies. Holy crap, I actually get to smile quite a bit." Fans seeing it for the first time: "It's about damn time. He's acting like Superman." I'm not gonna lie, that was probably my favorite part of the movie. It's one of those lines that finally nails the Marvel CU aesthetic that DCEU has been trying to copy this whole time.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 1, 2018 17:24:21 GMT -5
How much clearer do you need to get?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 1, 2018 17:49:29 GMT -5
How much clearer do you need to get? I present Snyder apologist logic: "It's okay for Batman to use guns to kill people as long as they're mounted on a vehicle."
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 1, 2018 18:06:19 GMT -5
How much clearer do you need to get? I present Snyder apologist logic: "It's okay for Batman to use guns to kill people as long as they're mounted on a vehicle." I... How... Just... Sny-hards are dumb, pure and simple.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 1, 2018 18:24:41 GMT -5
The guns thing doesn't bother me that much given that Keaton was shooting the shit outta stuff back when too.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 1, 2018 18:52:42 GMT -5
The guns thing doesn't bother me that much given that Keaton was shooting the shit outta stuff back when too. Keaton's Batman was never depicted as shooting people though, and Tim Burton was up front in stating he didn't read the source material because he didn't like comics, and jettisoned anything that didn't fit his narrative. Snyder repeatedly talked about how many comics he read and his deep understanding of them, and that he specifically didn't want to be the guy that had Batman murder anybody with guns, and then proceeded to have his Batman turn trucks, vans and cars packed with goons into Swiss-cheesed flaming wrecks.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 1, 2018 18:56:56 GMT -5
The guns thing doesn't bother me that much given that Keaton was shooting the shit outta stuff back when too. Keaton's Batman was never depicted as shooting people though, and Tim Burton was up front in stating he didn't read the source material because he didn't like comics, and jettisoned anything that didn't fit his narrative. Snyder repeatedly talked about how many comics he read and his deep understanding of them, and that he specifically didn't want to be the guy that had Batman murder anybody with guns, and then proceeded to have his Batman turn trucks, vans and cars packed with goons into Swiss-cheesed flaming wrecks. I mean I get what you're saying in Snyder just puttin lip service to following the source, and that's valid. Just sayin that I'm not that bothered by the changes that much. Of all the problems I had with the movie, that's not one.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Aug 2, 2018 4:58:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean, Burton's Batman especially in Batman Returns is pretty flippant with his blatant murdering of people and usage of guns on his Batmobile. He uses them in the original movie too.
It doesn't fix Snyder's vision of Batman by any means, but it's not like he's the first guy to take the modern Batman into a direction that doesn't really fit the character even within his own cinematic universe. Like, Burton's Batman even speaks of "gun bad" type mantra in his movies where he's using guns.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 2, 2018 8:04:39 GMT -5
Keaton's Batman was never depicted as shooting people though, and Tim Burton was up front in stating he didn't read the source material because he didn't like comics, and jettisoned anything that didn't fit his narrative. Snyder repeatedly talked about how many comics he read and his deep understanding of them, and that he specifically didn't want to be the guy that had Batman murder anybody with guns, and then proceeded to have his Batman turn trucks, vans and cars packed with goons into Swiss-cheesed flaming wrecks. I mean I get what you're saying in Snyder just puttin lip service to following the source, and that's valid. Just sayin that I'm not that bothered by the changes that much. Of all the problems I had with the movie, that's not one. Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 2, 2018 11:12:10 GMT -5
Yeah, to be fair, Tim Burton's Batman movies are more Tim Burton movies starring a guy dressed up in a batsuit. Much like how Jack Nicholson's Joker was really just Jack playing Jack wearing clown makeup.
Batman 1989 was a good movie but a poor adaptation of the source material.
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