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Post by spongebobhollypants on May 21, 2018 14:21:31 GMT -5
Stock almost up to $60 a share from the news. Estimated 200 million a year for SD. Estimated 240 million a year for RAW. Almost 2 million Network subscribers. This company can just buy the Sears Center in Hoffman Estates, cancel All In and replace it with a Baron Corbin-Jinder Mahal 180 minute iron man match on September 1st. It'll probably be more that $240m for RAW, people have completely misinterpreted the current deal and latest reports. |
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Post by The Captain on May 21, 2018 14:22:25 GMT -5
Maybe a different production team for Smackdown means Kevin Dunn isn't putting in a bazillion different camera angles per match.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 14:22:43 GMT -5
Money solves a lot of logistics issues. WWE's production expenses will go up but that's not a big deal when they're getting such a huge revenue increase. You're making a big deal out of a very, very minor issue. They could, but I would imagine WWE isn't wanting to add new, avoidable expenses when they have the chance to be more profitable than ever if they keep spending at current levels. They've been setting revenue records for awhile now, but profits remain fairly small because they've been spending like crazy. Dude, once these new deals fully kick in WWE is going to have their most profitable years ever. What you're doing is like someone complaining about a $10,000 per year raise at work because it adds $100 to their annual commuting expenses. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 21, 2018 14:25:17 GMT -5
Another thing I thought of,
Most dvr/pvr can’t record from antenna only. So anyone without cable has to either pirate the next day or actually stay home to watch it.
So it’s pretty sink or swim being on a Friday night. Could either be really good or really bad for advertising depending how the live audience reacts
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 21, 2018 14:25:47 GMT -5
They could, but I would imagine WWE isn't wanting to add new, avoidable expenses when they have the chance to be more profitable than ever if they keep spending at current levels. They've been setting revenue records for awhile now, but profits remain fairly small because they've been spending like crazy. Dude, once these new deals fully kick in WWE is going to have their most profitable years ever. What you're doing is like someone complaining about a $10,000 per year raise at work because it adds $100 to their annual commuting expenses. Exactly. |
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Post by bootytea on May 21, 2018 14:25:47 GMT -5
That is so spectacular!
Really hope this means WWE will be more creative and do things out of the box for their shows now they are on a big network.
The Friday time slot isn't really ideal, but we will see how they do. I do hope the show is live at least.
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Post by paywindah on May 21, 2018 14:27:37 GMT -5
The money is nice, but I’m more interested in the details of the deals. How much of the money is guaranteed, etc. Also, nobody pays this much without having a say in what goes on the air. USA isn’t going to let the top guys be on SD next year for example if they are paying so much for Raw.
I’d also guess that we’re going to see a drastic decrease in the amount of Raw and SD footage that appears on YouTube on show nights. USA and Fox will want you to watch the shows (and commericals) on their networks, not “catch up” via YouTube where they make no money.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 21, 2018 14:31:08 GMT -5
That is so spectacular! Really hope this means WWE will be more creative and do things out of the box for their shows now they are on a big network. The Friday time slot isn't really ideal, but we will see how they do. I do hope the show is live at least. It will be. They’re not paying that much for a taped show. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 14:31:59 GMT -5
Vince wins.
I guess I need to figure out how I can go in the Stock business myself...
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Post by Richard on May 21, 2018 14:32:08 GMT -5
Maybe a different production team for Smackdown means Kevin Dunn isn't putting in a bazillion different camera angles per match. It would be neat to see them adapt a more sports like approach for SDL since it will be scheduled between so many sports. Like an NXT or ROH but on a grander scale. Maybe move the cruisers over to it as well since all the flippy dippy could grab some eyes. |
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 21, 2018 14:34:33 GMT -5
Another thing I thought of, Most dvr/pvr can’t record from antenna only. So anyone without cable has to either pirate the next day or actually stay home to watch it. So it’s pretty sink or swim being on a Friday night. Could either be really good or really bad for advertising depending how the live audience reacts It's possible though Fox will have episodes on their app the next day like they do with their scripted programming. If that is the case with a smart tv,a roku device etc, someone can just watch it on their own time over the weekend. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 21, 2018 14:35:36 GMT -5
What if this had the unintentional consequence of “whoo hoo! I hate Raw anyway, guess I I can finally ditch cable!”
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 14:37:27 GMT -5
The money is nice, but I’m more interested in the details of the deals. How much of the money is guaranteed, etc. Also, nobody pays this much without having a say in what goes on the air. USA isn’t going to let the top guys be on SD next year for example if they are paying so much for Raw. I’d also guess that we’re going to see a drastic decrease in the amount of Raw and SD footage that appears on YouTube on show nights. USA and Fox will want you to watch the shows (and commericals) on their networks, not “catch up” via YouTube where they make no money. That first part is what interests me the most. Yea the money is all well and good but it is those finer details that will really make these deals sink or swim. And isn't the guy who runs FOX purlmuter or whatever really f***ing conservative with his network or I could be wrong but I never hear anything good about that guy. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 21, 2018 14:38:58 GMT -5
The money is nice, but I’m more interested in the details of the deals. How much of the money is guaranteed, etc. Also, nobody pays this much without having a say in what goes on the air. USA isn’t going to let the top guys be on SD next year for example if they are paying so much for Raw. I’d also guess that we’re going to see a drastic decrease in the amount of Raw and SD footage that appears on YouTube on show nights. USA and Fox will want you to watch the shows (and commericals) on their networks, not “catch up” via YouTube where they make no money. That first part is what interests me the most. Yea the money is all well and good but it is those finer details that will really make these deals sink or swim. And isn't the guy who runs FOX purlmuter or whatever really f***ing conservative with his network or I could be wrong but I never hear anything good about that guy. Fox News is conservative Fox tv is a liberal wild west |
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Post by cjh on May 21, 2018 14:40:30 GMT -5
They could, but I would imagine WWE isn't wanting to add new, avoidable expenses when they have the chance to be more profitable than ever if they keep spending at current levels. They've been setting revenue records for awhile now, but profits remain fairly small because they've been spending like crazy. Dude, once these new deals fully kick in WWE is going to have their most profitable years ever. What you're doing is like someone complaining about a $10,000 per year raise at work because it adds $100 to their annual commuting expenses. You're also increasing your workload when you can not increase your workload and get similar results. Everyone involved on the production side will be either taking 4 airline flights from Friday to Tuesday or spend every Saturday/Sunday in a hotel not working, which wrestlers have said is basically the worst of both worlds. Fox is also kind of stupid if they insist on a live show because history has shown that being live doesn't help WWE's ratings that much. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 21, 2018 14:48:32 GMT -5
Back on free tv? Time to appeal to lower income minority again.
Time bring back Alberto!
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Post by Perd on May 21, 2018 14:50:40 GMT -5
Network tinkering could definitely be an interesting aspect of this. WWE knows what to expect from USA. But Fox is a new dance partner. I could see some Fox exec demanding more romance angles are something like that. WWE just made a lot of money but they also added more voices in the room.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 15:03:55 GMT -5
Dude, once these new deals fully kick in WWE is going to have their most profitable years ever. What you're doing is like someone complaining about a $10,000 per year raise at work because it adds $100 to their annual commuting expenses. You're also increasing your workload when you can not increase your workload and get similar results. Everyone involved on the production side will be either talking 4 airline flights from Friday to Tuesday or spend every Saturday/Sunday in a hotel not working, which wrestlers have said is basically the worst of both worlds. Get similar results how? FOX obviously wants the show on Fridays and aren't paying this much money for a taped show. You're trying to spin a massively positive thing into something that has a large downside when that simply isn't true. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 21, 2018 15:05:22 GMT -5
Dude, once these new deals fully kick in WWE is going to have their most profitable years ever. What you're doing is like someone complaining about a $10,000 per year raise at work because it adds $100 to their annual commuting expenses. You're also increasing your workload when you can not increase your workload and get similar results. Everyone involved on the production side will be either taking 4 airline flights from Friday to Tuesday or spend every Saturday/Sunday in a hotel not working, which wrestlers have said is basically the worst of both worlds. Fox is also kind of stupid if they insist on a live show because history has shown that being live doesn't help WWE's ratings that much. They can't "not increase their workload and get similar results". Being live has a value to Fox even if it doesn't do amazing things for the ratings, and that value is to the tune of nine figures a year. If WWE didn't value that huge increase over keeping things tighter, they wouldn't have taken the deal they did, but I can't see Fox paying them that much for a show on three days' tape delay. Also, all-live, post-brand split Smackdown has done much higher ratings than it was doing as a taped show. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 21, 2018 15:07:06 GMT -5
Not sure how this will effect the quality of the show (which interests me most as a fan who doesn't own shares). But it is going to be absolutely surreal to hear Joe Buck pause in the middle of the World Series or a Cowboys/Packers game to shill f***ing Smackdown. As a life long wrestling fan who has heard so many REEL SPORTZ fans (of which I am also) shit on wresting, I can't wait for that moment. It will be glorious.
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