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Post by xCompackx on May 26, 2018 22:00:48 GMT -5
In another lifetime, Lio might have got another chance with the fans, but it's not that sort of era anymore. WWE might give him another shot, the Locker Room might even give him another shot, but sorry Lio, the fans aren't giving you a second chance. Social Media is forever. Even if you delete your posts, you can be sure someone took a screenshot of it. And nobody is going to ever forget. I'm not sure this is that dire; there'd be a whole bunch of unemployed folks if stupid Tweets were etched in stone for all eternity. If anything, it's a "Yeah, I f***ed up." moment; take your licks, try to learn something, and move on.
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Post by edgestar on May 26, 2018 22:07:22 GMT -5
Lots of perfect people in this thread. I'm pretty imperfect. I forgot all about the tweet.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 26, 2018 22:13:51 GMT -5
There are more people going OH WOE IS LIO RUSH! CURSED TO BARE THIS CROSS FOREVER! in this thread than people actually bringing up the original tweet.
As I said on the last page... the person that brought up his tweet was Lio Rush.
This wasn't a thread about a Lio Rush match, or his new tag team or whatever... this was about an interview where the tweet was brought up and he talked about it and gave another "I'm sorry you feel that way" response.
THAT is why people are mentioning it.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on May 26, 2018 23:39:13 GMT -5
I think he was just a dickhead by going "I'm sorry you were offended" route which never makes a person look good.
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Post by benstudd on May 27, 2018 1:16:16 GMT -5
Lots of perfect people in this thread. Social Justice, baby!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 4:08:20 GMT -5
Lots of perfect people in this thread. Yes, I have never made a joke about a coworker getting fired. It wasn't even hardI am so great
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on May 27, 2018 6:37:28 GMT -5
In another lifetime, Lio might have got another chance with the fans, but it's not that sort of era anymore. WWE might give him another shot, the Locker Room might even give him another shot, but sorry Lio, the fans aren't giving you a second chance. Social Media is forever. Even if you delete your posts, you can be sure someone took a screenshot of it. And nobody is going to ever forget. That's kind of a f***ed up world to live in, when you can't get a second chance after a simple dumbass tweet. I know he gave a non-apology apology, but even if Lio gave a heartfelt apology and sent Emma flowers or something it still wouldn't erase what he tweeted. Granted, it was a stupid, tasteless jab at someone who just lost their job but it happened over 7 months ago. People need to let it go. Jeeze, the kid is 22 years old and he made a mistake. He's pretty much kept his nose clean since, so I think it's time we forget about it and move on.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 27, 2018 7:50:44 GMT -5
I swear some threads around here lately feel like there are two parallel realities that the thread acts as a convergence point to because "pre-emptively gripe and complain about things people aren't actually doing and turn it into another battlefield in the culture war" is coming up way too often lately and it's really, really starting to baffle me here. Are people just coming out hoping someone is getting ~offended~ at something so much that they've pre-emptively dragged their soapboxes out and have already begun sermonizing? Lots of perfect people in this thread. Social Justice, baby! Not even remotely relevant to anything going on here you are literally just throwing out a word to describe a group of people you disagree with like it means something. It’s the “...and actually” argument tactic used in journalism. We argued, we yelled, they left the room and we thought it was over. And then they poked that head in one more time to start the whole thing over again. Alex Riley could rescue a young child from a burning building, and somehow there'd be someone there from a wrestling blog to ask him "Hey, remember that time you talked shit about AJ Lee and pissed everybody, including Kevin Steen, off? Tell me about that fighting for your life in the 20x20." People rip on Alex Riley because he's a dude who wasn't all that good, said lots of dumb and mockable shit, and who not one single person thinks about outside of maybe the context of "that one guy who was super weird about Alex Riley". Nobody thinks Alex Riley is A Bad Person, and there is so much space between "will joke about someone doing something" and "I think they're a loathsome individual" that I can't tell if this is a strawman or you're looking at this from some kind of weird "remove all middle ground" angle. In another lifetime, Lio might have got another chance with the fans, but it's not that sort of era anymore. WWE might give him another shot, the Locker Room might even give him another shot, but sorry Lio, the fans aren't giving you a second chance. Social Media is forever. Even if you delete your posts, you can be sure someone took a screenshot of it. And nobody is going to ever forget. That's kind of a f***ed up world to live in, when you can't get a second chance after a simple dumbass tweet. I know he gave a non-apology apology, but even if Lio gave a heartfelt apology and sent Emma flowers or something it still wouldn't erase what he tweeted. Granted, it was a stupid, tasteless jab at someone who just lost their job but it happened over 7 months ago. People need to let it go. Jeeze, the kid is 22 years old and he made a mistake. He's pretty much kept his nose clean since, so I think it's time we forget about it and move on. Funny enough, the only people who haven't moved on from the topic seem to be the ones who took issue with people ever having an issue with his tweets.
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Post by héad.casé on May 27, 2018 8:00:57 GMT -5
Sadly for this kid, every time he gets interviewed now, no matter how long ago it was, they're going to ask him about it - as they did in the article I linked to. It isn't really fair that since he's been signed that's all he's been known for, but as said - he's a kid, said something stupid, pissed people off, and journalists won't let him forget about it - unless WWE has some clause where he can't be asked about it before he's interviewed, but Lio's not important enough for that.
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Post by Shy Guy on May 27, 2018 8:17:05 GMT -5
Is it because lio hasn't done anything of note after the tweet, so that's why it's still fresh in everyone's mind when they see his name? Dude talked shit about Emma, and then he....showed up on NXT once or twice.
It's not like when Roman failed a drug test, but has been booked so awfully since then, that people would rather talk about his booking than the drug test.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 27, 2018 9:41:55 GMT -5
Sadly for this kid, every time he gets interviewed now, no matter how long ago it was, they're going to ask him about it - as they did in the article I linked to. It isn't really fair that since he's been signed that's all he's been known for, but as said - he's a kid, said something stupid, pissed people off, and journalists won't let him forget about it - unless WWE has some clause where he can't be asked about it before he's interviewed, but Lio's not important enough for that. That's what I've been trying to say in my last couple posts, but I think people keep thinking I mean people on this board, instead.
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Post by Dave the Dave on May 27, 2018 9:52:32 GMT -5
The people going “wah wah social justice pc” sound whinier than anyone who is annoyed with ole’ Lio.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 27, 2018 10:28:49 GMT -5
Sadly for this kid, every time he gets interviewed now, no matter how long ago it was, they're going to ask him about it - as they did in the article I linked to. It isn't really fair that since he's been signed that's all he's been known for, but as said - he's a kid, said something stupid, pissed people off, and journalists won't let him forget about it - unless WWE has some clause where he can't be asked about it before he's interviewed, but Lio's not important enough for that. That's what I've been trying to say in my last couple posts, but I think people keep thinking I mean people on this board, instead. People have addressed the underlying issue of why the journalist asked him: Lio hasn't done anything since then. Journalists aren't going to ask him a lot of long, lingering questions about the time he showed back up for Lars Sullivan to murderize. But even by your Alex Riley example from earlier; Riley has since been on GLOW and people mostly just ask boilerplate questions about moving on from WWE and stuff about his new show. People in a comments section might snicker about it and sure yeah I guess when everyone in the world can have a blog and call themselves a "wrestling insider" someone is likely to stir the shit or be obnoxious but like, that's not really a grander society problem and there have always been dickheads in journalist spheres doing stuff like that. Lio's time in WWE, which is going to be a main point of any interview especially with a mainstream, in-with-WWE company like ESPN, is really just kind of defined by this one thing he did. Let him get some actual matches to happen and things to do, and the story will die because there will be other things to deal with and other things to ask about. That's the nature of the news cycle. People don't ask Seth Rollins about his leaked nudes because he's since gone on to do other things. Lio hasn't. To see this in action, look at the tides on opinion on Chris Jericho; when he takes long breaks and says dumbass shit, people get really tired of him. When he comes back and sets things on fire again, his stock skyrockets again. The most recent impression that a community has of someone holds a lot of weight and becomes the inevitable topic of media interviews because that's the story. People understand what you mean--although you did earlier talk about how the fans will never forget or forgive and that's not on journalists at all--but it's still a bit melodramatic. The world is not sitting with bated breath to drop a link to a big tumblr callout post the second anyone starts to move. Lio can get past this, and if he doesn't it won't be because of the fans or journalists, it'll be other shit he does.
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Post by boliv84 on May 27, 2018 16:16:55 GMT -5
I don't mind the stupid tweet much (and likely Tenille doesn't either). Though the tweet in combination with his completely phoned in apology gives the further impression of an a-hole about him. Which doesn't mean he should be forever in the doghouse and if somebody on twitter still brings it up I think it is silly, a-holes are allowed to do their profession too. But I certainly won't sympathise with him "being in a hard situation" either.
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Post by bcdx97 on May 27, 2018 20:53:35 GMT -5
Emma has done pretty well for herself since leaving. So I think she's okay - it might even be better for her career right now than to be spinning her wheels in the WWE.
As for Lio? Well, his joke was lame and it got him heat - and his apology sucked. He said "I would never laugh or mock the fact of someone loosing there job" - I think you mean "losing their job", pal - and yeah, ya did.
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Post by Chiral on May 27, 2018 21:16:11 GMT -5
I swear some threads around here lately feel like there are two parallel realities that the thread acts as a convergence point to because "pre-emptively gripe and complain about things people aren't actually doing and turn it into another battlefield in the culture war" is coming up way too often lately and it's really, really starting to baffle me here. Are people just coming out hoping someone is getting ~offended~ at something so much that they've pre-emptively dragged their soapboxes out and have already begun sermonizing? For real the weird snarky "OH NO THE PC POLICE IS CRYING AGAIN" posts that don't even make sense are everywhere on here lately.
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