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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 4, 2022 23:19:37 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Also the Titan's Luna-class ship type is seen in live action for the first time. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}It was seen in Lower Decks, which is still considered canon. But yeah, seeing it in Live Action was pretty cool, too.
I don't know what the status of the Enterprise-E is in ST: Picard's time, but if it's decommissioned or destroyed, I'd love to see the Odyssey-class Enterprise F from STO make an appearance. And I love seeing the ship variety after how lacking it was in Picard S1. {Spoiler}If they're treating the tie-in novels as canon, the Enterprise-E is still the Federation flagship, with Worf in command. Seeing the F would be a treat, though, no doubt about that. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 4, 2022 23:22:30 GMT -5
Ships from the end of Voyager to the present Trek era have been awful.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 4, 2022 23:25:20 GMT -5
Also if Trek is finally acknowledging select EU stuff as canon, this would mean there's a possibility of the Romulan Republic becoming canon. Granted, the Republic isn't founded until 2409 in STO, but I'd love to see just the beginnings of it. Like if D'Tan showed up leading a faction of progressive Romulans who value democracy, galactic cooperation, and have the long-term goal of reunification, that'd be a real cool nod.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 5, 2022 8:18:40 GMT -5
Wasn’t planning on bothering but I gave it a chance and it was a better start than season 1 so far I’d say.
Not that that is a high bar.
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Post by prettynami on Mar 5, 2022 9:53:35 GMT -5
Well, it is at least nice that they just didn't copy and paste one single ship class this time around!! That one looks like an excelsior class with like ambassador class warp nacelles. I love the look of federation ships in general, I'm the kinda weirdo that watches youtube videos on obscure designs for fun.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 5, 2022 13:43:23 GMT -5
If you've seen Space Cases, you've seen Prodigy. Literally all I remember about Space Cases is having a crush on rainbow hair girl Before having a crush on her again as Kaylee on Firefly Man, I totally had a crush on her in Space Cases when I was a kid haha |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2022 14:00:51 GMT -5
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f***, I've missed Q. DeLancie hasn't missed a beat.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 5, 2022 14:31:31 GMT -5
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f***, I've missed Q. DeLancie hasn't missed a beat.
How did we never get a Q-based TNG movie? Closest we got to that was TNG's series finale "All Good Things," which was excellent and IMO better than all the actual TNG movies besides First Contact. Not that that was a particularly high bar. >_> |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2022 15:03:57 GMT -5
Closest we got to that was TNG's series finale "All Good Things," which was excellent and IMO better than all the actual TNG movies besides First Contact. Not that that was a particularly high bar. >_> Seriously. Nobody could think up a better idea for a movie featuring Q than the crap they served up with Insurrection and Nemesis? The latter in particular. How can you let the TNG crew ride off into the sunset without one last face off with Q? |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 7, 2022 21:53:15 GMT -5
The Star Trek Online ships used in episode one were literally the same digital models used in the game.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 7, 2022 21:59:24 GMT -5
Closest we got to that was TNG's series finale "All Good Things," which was excellent and IMO better than all the actual TNG movies besides First Contact. Not that that was a particularly high bar. >_> Seriously. Nobody could think up a better idea for a movie featuring Q than the crap they served up with Insurrection and Nemesis? The latter in particular. How can you let the TNG crew ride off into the sunset without one last face off with Q? While a good portion of Trek movie viewing audience is based on those that carried over from the TV viewing, there is also the desire for a feature film to draw in audiences that may not watch the show that often but will pop into a theater out of curiosity about what is going on. As this was the time before more fantastical elements such as a being like Q were more commonplace, as they have become with the more recent output of Marvel movies (Infinity Gauntlet stuff, the multiverse, all that), a being such as a Q might be something a Trek audience would love and cheer for (assuming the movie is good), but for an audience that studios are trying to build or casual movie going audiences, his powers/personality/et al might be confusing for the time. Though I would have loved to have seen Q in a Trek movie. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 7, 2022 22:12:02 GMT -5
Seriously. Nobody could think up a better idea for a movie featuring Q than the crap they served up with Insurrection and Nemesis? The latter in particular. How can you let the TNG crew ride off into the sunset without one last face off with Q? While a good portion of Trek movie viewing audience is based on those that carried over from the TV viewing, there is also the desire for a feature film to draw in audiences that may not watch the show that often but will pop into a theater out of curiosity about what is going on. As this was the time before more fantastical elements such as a being like Q were more commonplace, as they have become with the more recent output of Marvel movies (Infinity Gauntlet stuff, the multiverse, all that), a being such as a Q might be something a Trek audience would love and cheer for (assuming the movie is good), but for an audience that studios are trying to build or casual movie going audiences, his powers/personality/et al might be confusing for the time. Though I would have loved to have seen Q in a Trek movie. This is a really good point. I don't think Q could work as a movie villain without hitting some kind of reset button. He would best fit exactly as he did in the series finale, which would just be a retread, and his presence wouldn't have the significance with the casual audience that he does with regular viewers. First Contact perfectly toed the line with an established villain that could be just as compelling and interesting with casual viewers as regulars. |
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 7, 2022 22:20:17 GMT -5
While a good portion of Trek movie viewing audience is based on those that carried over from the TV viewing, there is also the desire for a feature film to draw in audiences that may not watch the show that often but will pop into a theater out of curiosity about what is going on. As this was the time before more fantastical elements such as a being like Q were more commonplace, as they have become with the more recent output of Marvel movies (Infinity Gauntlet stuff, the multiverse, all that), a being such as a Q might be something a Trek audience would love and cheer for (assuming the movie is good), but for an audience that studios are trying to build or casual movie going audiences, his powers/personality/et al might be confusing for the time. Though I would have loved to have seen Q in a Trek movie. This is a really good point. I don't think Q could work as a movie villain without hitting some kind of reset button. He would best fit exactly as he did in the series finale, which would just be a retread, and his presence wouldn't have the significance with the casual audience that he does with regular viewers. First Contact perfectly toed the line with an established villain that could be just as compelling and interesting with casual viewers as regulars. And even then the studios felt the need to "centralize" the Borg a bit by putting the Queen concept in. Which...I've heard arguments both ways for. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 7, 2022 23:23:40 GMT -5
This is a really good point. I don't think Q could work as a movie villain without hitting some kind of reset button. He would best fit exactly as he did in the series finale, which would just be a retread, and his presence wouldn't have the significance with the casual audience that he does with regular viewers. First Contact perfectly toed the line with an established villain that could be just as compelling and interesting with casual viewers as regulars. And even then the studios felt the need to "centralize" the Borg a bit by putting the Queen concept in. Which...I've heard arguments both ways for. I personally felt it passed muster, especially in the face of all the subsequent changes they made to the Borg. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 7, 2022 23:53:26 GMT -5
I personally felt it passed muster, especially in the face of all the subsequent changes they made to the Borg. The Borg need a focal character to really work. Even prior to First Contact they usually had some character involved to drive the narrative – Picard/Locutus, Lore, Hugh etc. The addition of the Queen really made the most sense, and Alice Krige did an amazing job. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 8, 2022 0:22:14 GMT -5
Q should never have been seen again in Trek after TNG's finale. The Best of Both Worlds should have been the last appearance of the Borg.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 8, 2022 1:23:38 GMT -5
The official art of the ships featured in the first ep has been released, for those who love their ship porn: |
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 8, 2022 8:35:52 GMT -5
All those Sovereign Class ships shown just make me feel that, if there's an Enterprise shown in Picard (probably Season 3 if anything), it's gonna be Enterprise-F and a whole new ship design.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 8, 2022 14:14:56 GMT -5
All those Sovereign Class ships shown just make me feel that, if there's an Enterprise shown in Picard (probably Season 3 if anything), it's gonna be Enterprise-F and a whole new ship design. I'm now leaning towards the Enterprise not being shown until the third season, too. All interviews with people associated with the show refer to the Stargazer as "the hero ship", and given we're probably not returning to the show's present day until the last episode or two, it's doubtful we'll see any ships that weren't present in episode one. |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 8, 2022 14:45:05 GMT -5
I just hope that if it is the Enterprise F, it's the Odyssey class from STO. I really like the design of that ship.
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