Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 13, 2018 15:16:15 GMT -5
Well I always wondered what would've happened if Marty Jannetty or Beefcake sued their more successful partners. Guess this is as close as it gets. I want to see Beefcake sue Janetty for the cost of that window he cowardly dove through. Will you stop! |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 13, 2018 15:19:21 GMT -5
Ok ok Jerry Mcdevitt is not a good lawyer. The cases that haven't been settled he has lost. Even the real wwf kicked his ass. Things Jerry Mcdeviit has won, mostly WWE based, combined with rulings that actually matter legally. Took me 2 seconds to type. Also, settling is usually a good thing from a lawyers perspective, I'm not even wanting to defend him, just stop making blanket statements. You forgot that he lost the wwf name case and giving Martha Hart about thirty million dollars, or losing to Jesse Ventura, or that they won the steroid trial basically because Nailz said that he hated Vince. Yes I guess settling is a good thing when you have the money to delay the proceedings for years and years. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 15:36:40 GMT -5
www.klgates.com/jerry-s-mcdevitt/Things Jerry Mcdeviit has won, mostly WWE based, combined with rulings that actually matter legally. Took me 2 seconds to type. Also, settling is usually a good thing from a lawyers perspective, I'm not even wanting to defend him, just stop making blanket statements. You forgot that he lost the wwf name case and giving Martha Hart about thirty million dollars, or losing to Jesse Ventura, or that they won the steroid trial basically because Nailz said that he hated Vince. Yes I guess settling is a good thing when you have the money to delay the proceedings for years and years. I don’t really see how you can slag a Lawyer that’s been in service of WWF/E for years He must be doing something right to have been around this long |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 15:39:13 GMT -5
Meltzer talked a little bit about the lawsuit. He talked to a wrestler close to both, and all Dave was allowed to say was that his source was sympathetic to Punk not to Cabana. Meltzer says that the theory of the falling out between them was due to Colt going backstage to the wwe. Finally Meltzer said that he expects the lawsuit to be settled because Colt can't afford another the legal costs. He said that while Punk can afford it, he doesn't want the hassle of going through it again. But wouldn’t Punk not settle if he didn’t owe Colt anything ? |
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Aug 13, 2018 15:43:38 GMT -5
Meltzer talked a little bit about the lawsuit. He talked to a wrestler close to both, and all Dave was allowed to say was that his source was sympathetic to Punk not to Cabana. Meltzer says that the theory of the falling out between them was due to Colt going backstage to the wwe. Finally Meltzer said that he expects the lawsuit to be settled because Colt can't afford another the legal costs. He said that while Punk can afford it, he doesn't want the hassle of going through it again. But wouldn’t Punk not settle if he didn’t owe Colt anything ? If it'll end up costing more in legal fees than what he owes Colt, he might as well settle and take the ego bruising and pull off the band aid as quickly as possible. I'm thinking that's where the million dollar suit comes from; because if Punk counters with 500k, that should be enough to cover Colt's fees or at least a majority of them. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 15:45:20 GMT -5
But wouldn’t Punk not settle if he didn’t owe Colt anything ? If it'll end up costing more in legal fees than what he owes Colt, he might as well settle and take the ego bruising and pull off the band aid as quickly as possible. True. Let people judge whether he really owed Colt or not but I’m sure he won’t care and In the end he’s washing his hands with him once that money is paid off And true. The goal was never the one million but enough to get what he feels he’s owed in which the $500 would be around that range. |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 13, 2018 15:47:22 GMT -5
If it'll end up costing more in legal fees than what he owes Colt, he might as well settle and take the ego bruising and pull off the band aid as quickly as possible. True. Let people judge whether he really owed Colt or not but I’m sure he won’t care and In the end he’s washing his hands with him once that money is paid off Oh yeah I doubt we'll ever hear from one about the other ever again after the end of this. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 13, 2018 15:47:37 GMT -5
www.klgates.com/jerry-s-mcdevitt/Things Jerry Mcdeviit has won, mostly WWE based, combined with rulings that actually matter legally. Took me 2 seconds to type. Also, settling is usually a good thing from a lawyers perspective, I'm not even wanting to defend him, just stop making blanket statements. You forgot that he lost the wwf name case and giving Martha Hart about thirty million dollars, or losing to Jesse Ventura, or that they won the steroid trial basically because Nailz said that he hated Vince. Yes I guess settling is a good thing when you have the money to delay the proceedings for years and years. The thing about McDevitt and the cases you mention are that there are almost no lawyers in this f***ing world who could make a good defendant out of WWE. That's why there's so many wins that are a push to settlement; WWE f***ed up, they knew they f***ed up, and they didn't want a judge to say they f***ed up because that would set a precedent and make them have to follow rules. The Martha Hart suit was theirs to lose period, the WWF name case involved Vince violating a written agreement with them, and Vince had legitimately made moves to prepare for the company to be run even while he was behind bars because it seemed like there was no way he wasn't going to burn on that steroid trial. The real lesson from that isn't that Jerry is a bad lawyer, it's that WWE is a company with a plethora of terrible legal abuses that no lawyer in the world would want to ever let see the light of day. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 15:51:05 GMT -5
True. Let people judge whether he really owed Colt or not but I’m sure he won’t care and In the end he’s washing his hands with him once that money is paid off Oh yeah I doubt we'll ever hear from one about the other ever again after the end of this. I’m pretty sure it would be in writing too that neither guy are able to talk about this through social media or whatever. Tho in the end I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t need to tell either guy to not speak on things anymore after this ordeal |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 13, 2018 15:59:29 GMT -5
You forgot that he lost the wwf name case and giving Martha Hart about thirty million dollars, or losing to Jesse Ventura, or that they won the steroid trial basically because Nailz said that he hated Vince. Yes I guess settling is a good thing when you have the money to delay the proceedings for years and years. The thing about McDevitt and the cases you mention are that there are almost no lawyers in this f***ing world who could make a good defendant out of WWE. That's why there's so many wins that are a push to settlement; WWE f***ed up, they knew they f***ed up, and they didn't want a judge to say they f***ed up because that would set a precedent and make them have to follow rules. The Martha Hart suit was theirs to lose period, the WWF name case involved Vince violating a written agreement with them, and Vince had legitimately made moves to prepare for the company to be run even while he was behind bars because it seemed like there was no way he wasn't going to burn on that steroid trial. The real lesson from that isn't that Jerry is a bad lawyer, it's that WWE is a company with a plethora of terrible legal abuses that no lawyer in the world would want to ever let see the light of day. Yeah the closest would be Mr Burns lawyers. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 13, 2018 16:02:51 GMT -5
Meltzer talked a little bit about the lawsuit. He talked to a wrestler close to both, and all Dave was allowed to say was that his source was sympathetic to Punk not to Cabana. Meltzer says that the theory of the falling out between them was due to Colt going backstage to the wwe. Finally Meltzer said that he expects the lawsuit to be settled because Colt can't afford another the legal costs. He said that while Punk can afford it, he doesn't want the hassle of going through it again. But wouldn’t Punk not settle if he didn’t owe Colt anything ? He would settle because he wouldn't have the patience to lose two or three years of his life in this bullshit. Also Colt would probably accept way less than the million he's asking for. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 16:06:52 GMT -5
But wouldn’t Punk not settle if he didn’t owe Colt anything ? He would settle because he wouldn't have the patience to lose two or three years of his life in this bullshit. Also Colt would probably accept way less than the million he's asking for. He was always going to settle for less than a $1 Mill
That was a throwaway number
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 13, 2018 16:33:50 GMT -5
Oh yeah I doubt we'll ever hear from one about the other ever again after the end of this. I’m pretty sure it would be in writing too that neither guy are able to talk about this through social media or whatever. Tho in the end I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t need to tell either guy to not speak on things anymore after this ordeal No, but you'd want it signed and codified anyway so you can stick it back up their ass if they open their yap. Either side. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 13, 2018 18:24:07 GMT -5
I find this ironic.
When he got fired from the wwe, Colt legit considered quitting and even applied for jobs outside of wrestling. Ultimately he returned to the indies but still lingered, the art of wrestling podcast pretty much saved his life.
Now the podcast is responsible for two lawsuits. The most important thing he ever did in his life can end up ruining it.
Also CM Punk was the first major star back in 2010 to appear on the podcast, the first months he also let Colt tape the episodes on his home and he also helped a lot in advertising it. Now the aow has become a major incovenience in his life.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 13, 2018 18:39:35 GMT -5
So I've been thinking about the whole "I've got you covered" thing, and I've got a few different scenarios in regards to what that meant:
1. Punk meant he would cover all of Cabana's legal fees, no questions asked. If that was the case, Punk's a dick for going back on his word, especially if it's over something as small as going to RAW to visit friends who work there.
2. Punk meant he would pay for Loeb & Loeb to handle Cabana's part of the case, and any legal fees incurred after the firm and Cabana parted ways were all on Cabana. However, if Punk was responsible for Loeb & Loeb dropping Cabana in the first place, he's still kind of responsible for Cabana needing to hire a new lawyer, and thus responsible for the resulting fees.
3. As mentioned previously by other posters, Punk absolutely intended to pay for all of Cabana's legal fees, but later realized he got in over his head and wouldn't be able to cover it all on his own. The "I've given up on you doing the right thing" could come from a possibility of Punk mentioning this to Cabana, asking him to help contribute, and Cabana refusing to pay his share of the fees. Without further proof, it's hard to tell.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 13, 2018 19:12:13 GMT -5
So I've been thinking about the whole "I've got you covered" thing, and I've got a few different scenarios in regards to what that meant: 1. Punk meant he would cover all of Cabana's legal fees, no questions asked. If that was the case, Punk's a dick for going back on his word, especially if it's over something as small as going to RAW to visit friends who work there. 2. Punk meant he would pay for Loeb & Loeb to handle Cabana's part of the case, and any legal fees incurred after the firm and Cabana parted ways were all on Cabana. However, if Punk was responsible for Loeb & Loeb dropping Cabana in the first place, he's still kind of responsible for Cabana needing to hire a new lawyer, and thus responsible for the resulting fees. 3. As mentioned previously by other posters, Punk absolutely intended to pay for all of Cabana's legal fees, but later realized he got in over his head and wouldn't be able to cover it all on his own. The "I've given up on you doing the right thing" could come from a possibility of Punk mentioning this to Cabana, asking him to help contribute, and Cabana refusing to pay his share of the fees. Without further proof, it's hard to tell. 4. What Punk really meant by I’ve got you covered could’ve meant he would make sure Cabana had legal representation so he’d be taken care of. Punk would then pay the bills until Cabana could help with his part. Punk asked Cabana two years ago to start pitching in. So did the lawyer but Cabana declined. While all those scenarios could be possible, I believe Punk will have a meeting with his lawyer and they’ll decide what’s the best action to take. I don’t see his lawyer lying for him in a court of law. I think a lot of what’s left to be said will be revealed by the lawyer in that respect. If there’s no real record of a promise to pay all of Cabana’s fees I could see a countersuit coming. We’ve read time and time again how Punk can be stubborn, petty and vindictive. Getting angry with Hornswoggle over asking for a mutual friend’s number and cutting off their friendship entirely. How do people think Punk would react to being sued for 1.2 million dollars and dragging him back into the court system he’d been battling for years by his former best friend? I don’t see Punk rolling over for this if he’s not really on the hook here. I wouldn’t put it past Punk to drag Cabana through the process all over again and let those fees rack up to get back at him. This is the guy that repeatedly got his ass handed to him in UFC and still wanted to fight that we’re talking about here. That shows that he’s a lot more stubborn than most people. Cabana better have a much stronger case than what’s been revealed in the exhibits so far. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 21:04:40 GMT -5
So I've been thinking about the whole "I've got you covered" thing, and I've got a few different scenarios in regards to what that meant: 1. Punk meant he would cover all of Cabana's legal fees, no questions asked. If that was the case, Punk's a dick for going back on his word, especially if it's over something as small as going to RAW to visit friends who work there. 2. Punk meant he would pay for Loeb & Loeb to handle Cabana's part of the case, and any legal fees incurred after the firm and Cabana parted ways were all on Cabana. However, if Punk was responsible for Loeb & Loeb dropping Cabana in the first place, he's still kind of responsible for Cabana needing to hire a new lawyer, and thus responsible for the resulting fees. 3. As mentioned previously by other posters, Punk absolutely intended to pay for all of Cabana's legal fees, but later realized he got in over his head and wouldn't be able to cover it all on his own. The "I've given up on you doing the right thing" could come from a possibility of Punk mentioning this to Cabana, asking him to help contribute, and Cabana refusing to pay his share of the fees. Without further proof, it's hard to tell. 4. What Punk really meant by I’ve got you covered could’ve meant he would make sure Cabana had legal representation so he’d be taken care of. Punk would then pay the bills until Cabana could help with his part. Punk asked Cabana two years ago to start pitching in. So did the lawyer but Cabana declined. While all those scenarios could be possible, I believe Punk will have a meeting with his lawyer and they’ll decide what’s the best action to take. I don’t see his lawyer lying for him in a court of law. I think a lot of what’s left to be said will be revealed by the lawyer in that respect. If there’s no real record of a promise to pay all of Cabana’s fees I could see a countersuit coming. We’ve read time and time again how Punk can be stubborn, petty and vindictive. Getting angry with Hornswoggle over asking for a mutual friend’s number and cutting off their friendship entirely. How do people think Punk would react to being sued for 1.2 million dollars and dragging him back into the court system he’d been battling for years by his former best friend? I don’t see Punk rolling over for this if he’s not really on the hook here. I wouldn’t put it past Punk to drag Cabana through the process all over again and let those fees rack up to get back at him. This is the guy that repeatedly got his ass handed to him in UFC and still wanted to fight that we’re talking about here. That shows that he’s a lot more stubborn than most people. Cabana better have a much stronger case than what’s been revealed in the exhibits so far. According to Meltz he's hearing the possibility of a settlement tho which can boil down for a few diff reasons
1. Punk owed him and is paying out
2. Punk doesn't want to drag this any longer and rather pay the bread out instead of racking up even more fees 3. This is f*** you money and don't ever speak to me again
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 14, 2018 6:34:52 GMT -5
4. What Punk really meant by I’ve got you covered could’ve meant he would make sure Cabana had legal representation so he’d be taken care of. Punk would then pay the bills until Cabana could help with his part. Punk asked Cabana two years ago to start pitching in. So did the lawyer but Cabana declined. While all those scenarios could be possible, I believe Punk will have a meeting with his lawyer and they’ll decide what’s the best action to take. I don’t see his lawyer lying for him in a court of law. I think a lot of what’s left to be said will be revealed by the lawyer in that respect. If there’s no real record of a promise to pay all of Cabana’s fees I could see a countersuit coming. We’ve read time and time again how Punk can be stubborn, petty and vindictive. Getting angry with Hornswoggle over asking for a mutual friend’s number and cutting off their friendship entirely. How do people think Punk would react to being sued for 1.2 million dollars and dragging him back into the court system he’d been battling for years by his former best friend? I don’t see Punk rolling over for this if he’s not really on the hook here. I wouldn’t put it past Punk to drag Cabana through the process all over again and let those fees rack up to get back at him. This is the guy that repeatedly got his ass handed to him in UFC and still wanted to fight that we’re talking about here. That shows that he’s a lot more stubborn than most people. Cabana better have a much stronger case than what’s been revealed in the exhibits so far. According to Meltz he's hearing the possibility of a settlement tho which can boil down for a few diff reasons 1. Punk owed him and is paying out
2. Punk doesn't want to drag this any longer and rather pay the bread out instead of racking up even more fees 3. This is f*** you money and don't ever speak to me again
Ultimately, it would be all of those, in practice. |
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Post by King Boo on Aug 14, 2018 11:42:25 GMT -5
Meltzer says that the theory of the falling out between them was due to Colt going backstage to the wwe.  |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 14, 2018 11:58:35 GMT -5
Meltzer says that the theory of the falling out between them was due to Colt going backstage to the wwe. The rumor and innuendo is that Punk thought Cabana was gonna flip on him and testify against him. |
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