Impact draws one of its lowest ratings ever

[HMARK Center]

Aug 10, 2018 21:20:54 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

I didn’t bother watching this and I don’t watch preseason nfl football but they had 300,000 viewers 3 weeks ago and now they have half of that.For the people saying it’s preseason football why all the sudden this year where suddenly impact is supposed to be awesome did people decide to watch football? Impact through its entire existence has never been effected by other programming other than wwe the audience they have however small is usually a loyal one.

Yes it’s better than when it was absolute garbage but that’s not high praise nothing interesting ever happens on the show.I know a lot of wrestling fans and only 1 of those people are willing to watch impact he hasn’t watched in a few months he came back for the post slammiversay show and hasn’t watched since because he feels like it’s a waste of time nothing important ever happens his only compliment of the show was Scarlett who he called that new hot chick but he’s not willing to sit through 2 hours of nothing happening tv to see her for a minute or 2.

It's been said many times in this thread already: beginning at the start of August, Pop TV was apparently dropped by a number of cable providers. It's possible that's not as big a deal as it might seem, I haven't read any details on it to know for sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that costing the show that much of its audience in a week.

And yeah, by all accounts Impact pays on time now and it's TV exposure for some very talented wrestlers. Dixie's gone, Jarrett's gone, Russo's gone, even the TNA name is gone, I'm not sure why we should want it to die at this point.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Sort of amazed it's still goin on in any capacity anymore really.

[Ringmaster]

Aug 10, 2018 19:26:12 GMT -5 Square said:

...Why are you actively wanting a company that are paying wrestlers and giving a product people are enjoying to close?

I feel you. I really wish pro wrestling had more than two active promotions.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Aug 11, 2018 11:50:41 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Sort of amazed it's still goin on in any capacity anymore really.

Does impact makes enough money that it warrants it to stay in business?

Also Pop's deal with tna ends this year right?

[chazraps]

Aug 10, 2018 21:19:40 GMT -5 markymark said:

The issue is simple, the main event scene IS NOT INTERESTING.

Why would fans find Eddie Edwards interesting? He comes off like a mongoloid instead of being crazy.

Idk but its gives me bad memories of Abyssamania.

At least in the business aspect Impact seems stable.

Let's please not use that word anymore.

[markymark]

Sorry if i sounded harsh by using that word. The thing is that Eddie looks like cartoon character with his new gimmick.

Fun fact: the December 14th 2017 show did 161K viewers, and the main event of that show was Rosemary vs LVN, LVN character was as cartoonish as Eddies..so I assume people dont like that kind of character?

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Aug 11, 2018 12:48:51 GMT -5 markymark said:

Sorry if it sounded harsh by using word. The thing is that Eddie looks like cartoon character with his new gimmick.

Fun fact: the December 14th 2017 show did 161K viewers, and the main event of that show was Rosemary vs LVN, LVN character was as cartoonish as Eddies..so I assume people dont like that kind of character?

I think the current problem is that people have already seen Tommy Dreamer for almost twenty years, it's a tired gimmick and Eddie is now reduced to being Tommy Dreamer Jr.

Alvarez in one review put it best back in 2010, he said that Dreamer's style is one of bankruptcy that he no longer offered anything at all.

[BarmPot]

I haven't watched in a long time, same with WWE, but I can't help but think a factor is people not watching as much TV and more on demand stuff or YouTube. I dunno how it is with other folks of course, but 99% of stuff I watch is Netflix or some other service.

Of course TNA has a reputation, but at least they're trying to change that from what I've heard.

[The Barber]

Aug 10, 2018 19:26:12 GMT -5 Square said:

...Why are you actively wanting a company that are paying wrestlers and giving a product people are enjoying to close?

...because they aren't entertaining me and, like that child from the Twilight Zone episode, if it's not pleasing me, it shouldn't exist! #mark

Aug 11, 2018 11:21:17 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Aug 10, 2018 21:20:54 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

I didn’t bother watching this and I don’t watch preseason nfl football but they had 300,000 viewers 3 weeks ago and now they have half of that.For the people saying it’s preseason football why all the sudden this year where suddenly impact is supposed to be awesome did people decide to watch football? Impact through its entire existence has never been effected by other programming other than wwe the audience they have however small is usually a loyal one.

Yes it’s better than when it was absolute garbage but that’s not high praise nothing interesting ever happens on the show.I know a lot of wrestling fans and only 1 of those people are willing to watch impact he hasn’t watched in a few months he came back for the post slammiversay show and hasn’t watched since because he feels like it’s a waste of time nothing important ever happens his only compliment of the show was Scarlett who he called that new hot chick but he’s not willing to sit through 2 hours of nothing happening tv to see her for a minute or 2.

And yeah, by all accounts Impact pays on time now and it's TV exposure for some very talented wrestlers. Dixie's gone, Jarrett's gone, Russo's gone, even the TNA name is gone, I'm not sure why we should want it to die at this point.

...because WWE is the only wrestling company that should exist. Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go post how the WWE sucks and needs more wrestling. #mark

[Push R Truth]

So are the ratings higher or lower than just showing infomercials

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Aug 11, 2018 11:21:17 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Aug 10, 2018 21:20:54 GMT -5 @mrbonezone said:

I didn’t bother watching this and I don’t watch preseason nfl football but they had 300,000 viewers 3 weeks ago and now they have half of that.For the people saying it’s preseason football why all the sudden this year where suddenly impact is supposed to be awesome did people decide to watch football? Impact through its entire existence has never been effected by other programming other than wwe the audience they have however small is usually a loyal one.

Yes it’s better than when it was absolute garbage but that’s not high praise nothing interesting ever happens on the show.I know a lot of wrestling fans and only 1 of those people are willing to watch impact he hasn’t watched in a few months he came back for the post slammiversay show and hasn’t watched since because he feels like it’s a waste of time nothing important ever happens his only compliment of the show was Scarlett who he called that new hot chick but he’s not willing to sit through 2 hours of nothing happening tv to see her for a minute or 2.

It's been said many times in this thread already: beginning at the start of August, Pop TV was apparently dropped by a number of cable providers. It's possible that's not as big a deal as it might seem, I haven't read any details on it to know for sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that costing the show that much of its audience in a week.

And yeah, by all accounts Impact pays on time now and it's TV exposure for some very talented wrestlers. Dixie's gone, Jarrett's gone, Russo's gone, even the TNA name is gone, I'm not sure why we should want it to die at this point.

I never said I wanted it to die that was someone else in the thread I just said I’m not feeling the product and this sudden online narrative that impact is awesome doesn’t ring true to me as someone that actually watches the tv.I want impact to be awesome but it’s dull tv IMO like I’ve said in other impact threads they have some good talent not a ton but a few but they don’t utilize them well and in a lot of cases push their weaknesses instead of their strength and in a business they claim they want to grow that doesn’t make a lot of sense Eddie Edwards is the best example of this he was a bland guy that had good matches now he cuts bad promos,acts crazy poorly and he’s a hardcore wrestler so they gave him 3 negatives and took away his 1 positive.Then there’s the bad promo’s & Backstage segments that air on a taped show that show a glaring lack of quality control and then there’s the fact that the tv just ain’t that interesting and I’d hope that people who’ve been in wrestling for decades would see these things and take action to rectify them.

[Mister Pigwell]

^Is the narrative really at "Impact is awesome" though? My experience with what I've seen from people is that "Impact isn't that bad now and is getting better".

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Aug 11, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

^Is the narrative really at "Impact is awesome" though? My experience with what I've seen from people is that "Impact isn't that bad now and is getting better".

It’s has been after Slammiversay there was a lot of “greatest ppv in company history & impact’s Awesome now” and even wrestling websites that never talk about impact or bother review the tv were pushing how great impact is and it’s felt very phony and almost paid for instead of warranted.I didn’t watch the ppv because I’ve been burnt too many times but I did watch the 1st 2 post ppv tv’s and it was just boring and admittedly I look at pro wrestling way differently than most people here in that I like what I like but if something works that I don’t like then awesome but I also know people that are fans that wouldn’t know a 12 star match if they saw it and have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes that just watch wrestling to be entertained for a couple hours and they only watch if they like it and if they don’t like they just stop watching no expressing their displeasure on social media or going on a message board to bitch but still watch every week their just done so those type of people I put more stock in than online smart marks who go “Bravo excellent work rate & I’m deducting a star and a half because for the last 2/3rd’s of the match he stopped selling the leg!” And the former of those people are the type of people that left when wcw went out of business or stopped watching wwe in summer & fall 2002 during that historic ratings fall that they’ve yet to recover from and never came back.

I know for a fact that pretty much all hardcore smart Mark fans don’t seem to realize that most people that watch wrestling watch it completely differently than they do to them it’s just like a tv show if I’m a wrestling company I want those fans way more than the smart marks because there’s way more of the casual fans and that’s what gonna increase business.Right now in wrestling everything seems to be super focused on playing to a super specific niche fan and if I’m a casual fan that doesnt care about work rate or backstage gossip then I’d feel completely alienated by the product and impact is a big offender on this.Just an example when I go to work there’s a group of guys that I would call casual super fans in that they love Pro wrestling but they have no clue about the insider community and they spend more time talking to me about stuff that happened 20+ years ago instead of what’s going on today cause when they do watch their bored out of their minds and A common statement is that the matches go on forever and they want more non wrestling so that interesting when I come on here and you hear the opposite so I’m always interested in talking to real human beings that wrestling isn’t life and death but they really like it and would watch every week if the product entertained them.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Aug 11, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

^Is the narrative really at "Impact is awesome" though? My experience with what I've seen from people is that "Impact isn't that bad now and is getting better".

It's improving but it's not great.

For every Penta Zero Miedo we have Tommy Dreamer.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Aug 11, 2018 11:03:24 GMT -5 The Captain said:

POP is an extremely niche cable channel that IIRC just lost a bunch of providers.

I wouldn't say it's preseason football that did anything so much as a lot less people being able to watch it in the first place.

probably a little of column a and a little of column B.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Aug 11, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

^Is the narrative really at "Impact is awesome" though? My experience with what I've seen from people is that "Impact isn't that bad now and is getting better".

Yeah, from what I've seen is it's not clownshoes terrible... but it's still not anything to write home about or must see.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Has Meltzer mentioned if Impact is drawing any sort of money? Like why keep open a failed company?

[Facetious]

Aug 12, 2018 0:29:50 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Aug 11, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

^Is the narrative really at "Impact is awesome" though? My experience with what I've seen from people is that "Impact isn't that bad now and is getting better".

Yeah, from what I've seen is it's not clownshoes terrible... but it's still not anything to write home about or must see.

In all honesty, I could argue that is what you could say about most wrestling TV shows. I don't get POP so I can't say for sure how the product is, but just from reading recaps, it sounds about on par with SD.

[Feargus McReddit]

Aug 12, 2018 0:41:38 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Has Meltzer mentioned if Impact is drawing any sort of money? Like why keep open a failed company?

I'm pretty sure everyone and their grandmother has said this answer before to people but I'll say it one more time as a metaphor.

It's cheaper to renovate an old house than it is to buy the land and get planning permission to construct an entirely new house.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Aug 12, 2018 10:07:12 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Aug 12, 2018 0:41:38 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Has Meltzer mentioned if Impact is drawing any sort of money? Like why keep open a failed company?

I'm pretty sure everyone and their grandmother has said this answer before to people but I'll say it one more time as a metaphor.

It's cheaper to renovate an old house than it is to buy the land and get planning permission to construct an entirely new house.

But everytime the house gets renovated something awful happens like it was built on top of a graveyard.

The Carters wasted tens of millions and they couldn't rebuild the house.

Neither could Jeff Jarrett the man who built it.

At some point maybe just quit.