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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 19, 2018 2:06:33 GMT -5
The thing is... TNA has never really has it's own identity. They were always the copycats of other more successful things. Russo Era wcw The attitude era Modern wwe Monday night wars wcw. RoH/New Japan Etc. RoH is the one that treats it like a sport Lucha Underground like a television show WWE sports entertainment side show There really has never been a big TNA identity. The closest they had was the x division and AJ Styles and they burned both of those ages ago. Other than that the thing most associated with the company is failure and ineptitude and you can't really build a brand with that. And while Callis and co are getting goodwill and trying to right the ship in a good direction
They are copying Lucha Underground right now as well so there's still no identity
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 3:46:47 GMT -5
This relates to my answer whenever someone asks why I want to see the company close it's doors.
Everyone, and I mean everyone there, has better options. Theread is no prestige, the money isn't life changing, the TV exposure means officially squat.
And despite any positive changes, we still get Eddie/Crowehan/Dreamer/worked shoots brother garbage.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 19, 2018 3:59:40 GMT -5
This relates to my answer whenever someone asks why I want to see the company close it's doors. Everyone, and I mean everyone there, has better options. Theread is no prestige, the money isn't life changing, the TV exposure means officially squat. And despite any positive changes, we still get Eddie/Crowehan/Dreamer/worked shoots brother garbage. I think the issue is that no, not even there does have better options. TNA has a lot of guys right now who aren't really worth it to anyone else. The Crists have been around forever and they had some very mild buzz about ten years ago that went nowhere. Eli Drake isn't good enough to mean anything in the bigger indies but WWE doesn't want him. Dudes like f***ing Fallah Bahh? TNA is the closest they're going to get to big time, period. Also, with how TNA is, there's no longer contracts tying anyone down to exclusivity, which means for the guys who can do better, it's an indie date, and when it comes to indie dates, TNA is a big step up from some of the sorts of places those guys'll work. Existing on as a not-quite-super indie with TV is a pretty big fall from grace, but if they're paying guys then it's something. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 19, 2018 7:47:04 GMT -5
They offer talent international tV exposure they cannot get from the majority of other promotions, their management have contacts with 'better' promotions and can help get them a foot in the door. They're relatively competently booked, they killed off the Jarrett/Dixie era policies that made them radioactive to talent's indy bookings and don't run a vast number of shows that draw squat these days, they just run assorted tapings and not much else so the level of commitment required from talent is minimal so there is little but upside to working for Impact in it's present day form, no matter what people may want to believe.
As for not having an identity, if that's a reason for wanting places to close, then it's time to start calling for pretty much every non WWE/LU promotion to shut up shop too. Any promoter with a lick of sense is going to try and draw influence or hire talent from places with booking that works.
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Post by benstudd on Aug 19, 2018 23:15:34 GMT -5
This relates to my answer whenever someone asks why I want to see the company close it's doors. Everyone, and I mean everyone there, has better options. Theread is no prestige, the money isn't life changing, the TV exposure means officially squat. And despite any positive changes, we still get Eddie/Crowehan/Dreamer/worked shoots brother garbage. TNA/Impact to me has always been about hope. Hope for the WWE fans cause they are tired of the WWE politics and wanting a better product. Nostalgia from WCW fans that want to see that brand of wrestling. Hope of seeing the best indy talent on a bigger stage. TNA meant something different from a lot of fans wanting it to be "their" promotion. Even for someone like me that doesn't watch any wrestling these days, I could say go ahead kill it I don't care. But I sort of want them to still exist so that someday I can watch wrestling again. About them having their own identity, I don't think it's that hard if you have the slightest bit of imagination. I was watching some stuff from MLW to the other day on You Tube the other day and I was pretty impressed by how different from other promotions it was. They had their own thing toward more shoot fighting of sort. It is the sort of thing I wished TNA had done way back when Joe and Angle started going at it. But JJ was too retrograde. Now maybe for Callis it was easier for him to crap on the bad things in wrestling on his podcast with Lance Storm than to actual to come up with something new and creative. But even if you don't do anything new, make sure it is exciting from the things you know about wrestling. You could do good things with old school(the current presentation of the NWA with Billy Corgan is really effective). But I am skeptical with him so far. (I watched Impact stuff this summer when Fight Network was free for a couple of weeks). Their crown jewel i think is Sami Calaghan but from what I saw, I don't think they go far enough to make him the talk of the town(other than the baseball bat mystake). Just watching old shows from WWF and WCW from the late 90s and so forth, they were going much farther on how they handled their more extreme characters whether it was babyfaces or heels. Even in the Ruthless Agrression days(Orton on Stephanie). Hell even in TNA when Roode was champ, he spat on the boss Dixie Carter, he would hit people in the balls. Sami is still too sanitized and safe. Looking angry all time is not enough. I think the booking fails him most of the time. |
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