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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 12:16:10 GMT -5
Kenny Omega is incredibly overrated. At the very least he's become "formula" That doesn't mean his matches isn't good but in between moves he spams the V Trigger 300 times a match If he ever went to WWE he'd be perfect because he has "Ace moves" that the crowd will react to but his transitions in between moves can be off However, he's still a beast but I can see why people think he's overrated. He's 3rd behind Okada and Naito for sure in pecking order
If he goes to WWE I think he'll run into issues with having a lot of his mannerisms being cheesy even when he's attempting to be serious. A lot of people will get pissed off when they expect him to be the next AJ Styles and instead ends up being post-Universal champion Kevin Owens.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 12, 2018 12:19:13 GMT -5
At the very least he's become "formula" That doesn't mean his matches isn't good but in between moves he spams the V Trigger 300 times a match If he ever went to WWE he'd be perfect because he has "Ace moves" that the crowd will react to but his transitions in between moves can be off However, he's still a beast but I can see why people think he's overrated. He's 3rd behind Okada and Naito for sure in pecking order
If he goes to WWE I think he'll run into issues with having a lot of his mannerisms being cheesy even when he's attempting to be serious. A lot of people will get pissed off when they expect him to be the next AJ Styles and instead ends up being post-Universal champion Kevin Owens. The thing is there's a place for that though
He can pull off the cheesy part and he can pull off the bad ass too due to his offense being hard hitting. If anything I think he will try to emulate AJ more in his in ring style while taking some of Jericho personality
It's more about a balance tho because he has a tendency to go off the board
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 12, 2018 12:21:36 GMT -5
I *love* second/third whatever generation stars showing up. I like knowing X's daughter/cousin/Sweet Aunt Petunia/son-in-law are carryng on a legacy. I enjoy the familial bonds.
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Post by theresalwaysanegon on Sept 12, 2018 12:27:53 GMT -5
Mortis > Kanyon.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 12, 2018 12:44:54 GMT -5
If he goes to WWE I think he'll run into issues with having a lot of his mannerisms being cheesy even when he's attempting to be serious. A lot of people will get pissed off when they expect him to be the next AJ Styles and instead ends up being post-Universal champion Kevin Owens. The thing is there's a place for that though He can pull off the cheesy part and he can pull off the bad ass too due to his offense being hard hitting. If anything I think he will try to emulate AJ more in his in ring style while taking some of Jericho personality
It's more about a balance tho because he has a tendency to go off the board
I hope Kenny never goes to WWE because if I EVER have to hear the words "Aoi Shoudou" coming out of Michael Cole's mouth, I'ma have to drink an entire bottle of Drano.
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Post by thetower52 on Sept 12, 2018 14:20:21 GMT -5
I simply don't understand the fauning over PCO. He was a decent-good worker at his peak, and looks still to be solid but the "high flying' stuff that some are raving about looks horrible. Some have argued (entirely reasonably) that it doesn't matter because it's the spectacle of the thing and the 'holy bleep' factor of it, but you can see chunky old dudes hitting pointless, sloppy high spots on most small indies and they don't get praised. Genuinely passes me by. For me it’s because he’s f***in bat shit crazy and he’s believable as bat shit crazy. His matches look like a actual fight. But mostly because it’s a old man doing incredibly crazy shit for his age
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 12, 2018 14:54:46 GMT -5
I don't know how unpopular this opinion is, but here goes..... The Attitude Era was a glorious time to be a fan.....but roughly 75% of it is borderline unwatchable garbage now. Unwatchable garbage is a little strong, but I do generally agree. To kinda piggyback: As much as people hated the brand split and what it did to the titles in terms of value, the Attitude era did far worse damage to them, in particular the IC title
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Post by fw91 on Sept 12, 2018 17:54:31 GMT -5
For all the Reigns hate, I still find there is a lot more to keep tuned in to RAW than SD, which I've found dreadfully boring as of late.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 12, 2018 18:20:40 GMT -5
Kurt Angle has many of the same issues as the majority of WWE developmental guys, he knows how to do moves but not why or when. Take him out of an environment with a strong guiding hand and he does things because he can, not to try and tell a story.
Jay Briscoe's continue employment and world title reign is a black mark against ROH and is something any other company would be vilified for, but they get a pass for doubling down on his push because... I don't know why.
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 12, 2018 18:58:01 GMT -5
Kurt Angle has many of the same issues as the majority of WWE developmental guys, he knows how to do moves but not why or when. Take him out of an environment with a strong guiding hand and he does things because he can, not to try and tell a story. Jay Briscoe's continue employment and world title reign is a black mark against ROH and is something any other company would be vilified for, but they get a pass for doubling down on his push because... I don't know why. Putting aside Jay's deplorable opinions, I guess I've never really "got" the Briscoes. There are people out there who think they should be the next big thing, but I've never understood WHY?
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Sept 12, 2018 19:14:26 GMT -5
Matt Stryker was a passionate commentator who people would enjoy today. His history needed work, but he called moves and actually sounded like he wanted to be there. While I don't think he should share a table with Mauro Renallo, I think with a good PBP they could make a three-man table that might make people care about what's going on in the ring.
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 12, 2018 22:30:04 GMT -5
I liked 2004 Smackdown.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 13, 2018 2:59:23 GMT -5
The thing is there's a place for that though He can pull off the cheesy part and he can pull off the bad ass too due to his offense being hard hitting. If anything I think he will try to emulate AJ more in his in ring style while taking some of Jericho personality
It's more about a balance tho because he has a tendency to go off the board
I hope Kenny never goes to WWE because if I EVER have to hear the words "Aoi Shoudou" coming out of Michael Cole's mouth, I'ma have to drink an entire bottle of Drano. I would really love to see the WWE reaction to "the Chainsaw Arms" if he tried it there once.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 13, 2018 6:53:08 GMT -5
"Big Evil" was the best version of the Undertaker (at least from an aesthetic standpoint).
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Post by chronocross on Sept 13, 2018 7:27:36 GMT -5
Matt Stryker was a passionate commentator who people would enjoy today. His history needed work, but he called moves and actually sounded like he wanted to be there. While I don't think he should share a table with Mauro Renallo, I think with a good PBP they could make a three-man table that might make people care about what's going on in the ring. While I do appreciate his passion, Matt Stryker's style of commentary never did it for me.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 13, 2018 8:51:03 GMT -5
Matt Stryker was a passionate commentator who people would enjoy today. His history needed work, but he called moves and actually sounded like he wanted to be there. While I don't think he should share a table with Mauro Renallo, I think with a good PBP they could make a three-man table that might make people care about what's going on in the ring. While I do appreciate his passion, Matt Stryker's style of commentary never did it for me. Striker. Matt Striker and Matt Stryker are two different people. Matt Striker is the obnoxious commentary guy. Matt Stryker was a bald dude with a mustache.
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Post by chronocross on Sept 13, 2018 9:37:02 GMT -5
While I do appreciate his passion, Matt Stryker's style of commentary never did it for me. Striker. Matt Striker and Matt Stryker are two different people. Matt Striker is the obnoxious commentary guy. Matt Stryker was a bald dude with a mustache. Is that the guy who used to be in ROH back in the day? I thought he was decent, didn't know he did commentary these days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 11:10:28 GMT -5
Striker. Matt Striker and Matt Stryker are two different people. Matt Striker is the obnoxious commentary guy. Matt Stryker was a bald dude with a mustache. Is that the guy who used to be in ROH back in the day? I thought he was decent, didn't know he did commentary these days. No, Stryker with a Y is the ROH guy with the unibrow. The commentator is a different guy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 11:51:56 GMT -5
Is that the guy who used to be in ROH back in the day? I thought he was decent, didn't know he did commentary these days. No, Stryker with a Y is the ROH guy with the unibrow. The commentator is a different guy. My ears are burning here
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Post by corndog on Sept 13, 2018 18:43:31 GMT -5
At the very least he's become "formula" That doesn't mean his matches isn't good but in between moves he spams the V Trigger 300 times a match If he ever went to WWE he'd be perfect because he has "Ace moves" that the crowd will react to but his transitions in between moves can be off However, he's still a beast but I can see why people think he's overrated. He's 3rd behind Okada and Naito for sure in pecking order
If he goes to WWE I think he'll run into issues with having a lot of his mannerisms being cheesy even when he's attempting to be serious. A lot of people will get pissed off when they expect him to be the next AJ Styles and instead ends up being post-Universal champion Kevin Owens. I don't even mind when he is silly, it's his voice that bothers me. He tries to do this evil video game/comic book style super-villain voice and it comes off incredibly awkward and forced, he's not Mark Hamill. He just needs to use his regular speaking voice in promos and it would be fine. I also doubt WWE would just let him play Sephiroth and then do silly indy comedy bits in matches.
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