Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 1, 2019 2:25:32 GMT -5
Charlotte Flair is the worst Flair in wrestling.
AJ Styles sucks. On the mic he is boring. In ring he is nothing special. Add in his known homophobia and I am surprised how much praise he gets.
Bayley is boring. Seen her much praised NXT matches and meh.
I hate when I can see past the second row of fans. Dont care what signs the crowd brings. Don't given a shit about whatever thing they are chanting. I watch wrestling to see the wrestlers.
Most years the RAW after Wrestlemania is horrible. Even if the matches are good you still have piles of fans that spend the entire show trying to get themselves over.
CZW Cage of Death 20 was more entertaining than the last 10 Wrestlemanias.
From start to finish most IWA MS TPI tournaments are better than most PWG BOLA shows.
Super Dragon was crap. Oh wow a dude in PJs is stuffing people.
WCW peaked with the Beach Blast 92 PPV. And Every thing afterwards was downhill.
From when it started until it ended WWECW was better than anything WWE has produced since 1988.
Jerry Lawler is the best US wrestler of the 70s and 80s.
Hardcore Holly is one of the best tag team wrestlers of the past 25 years.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 1, 2019 2:33:56 GMT -5
I'm sure there's some examples of it working but whenever two huge "IWC" favorites go against each other and it's being hyped up to be a potential all time great match I'm never surprised when it ends up disappointing. Whether it's Styles/Owens, Styles/Nakamura, even the reaction to Styles/Bryan on Sunday. It goes back even further than that, remember when Punk/Jericho at Wrestlemania was going to steal the show? Punk/Bryan matches were better but even those were "pretty damn good" rather than classic. To get the real huge mega match feel you usually need a Cena/Reigns/Brock/Charlotte "chosen one" vs. one of those types. Take Cena vs. Styles for instance. The Cena fans REALLY wanted their guy to win and the Styles fans REALLY wanted their guy to win so the crowd was on fire from start to finish. Whereas something like Styles/Bryan in front of a smarky big 4 crowd I don't think people are that invested in who wins/loses and just want to see a good match so you end up not having that passionate atmosphere to help take it over the edge from good to great. I fear that Rollins vs. AJ will be one of those matches whenever it happens. It will be hyped like it's going to be a 5 star match but the crowd will sit on their hands for most of it and it won't come across that well and there will be a bunch of threads the next day about it not living up to the hype. I think you really just pinpointed something that's been confusing me for years. At the very least, I think it sheds light on why Styles's matches that delivered the most were John Cena and Shane McMahon, while Owens, Nakamura, and now Daniel Bryan have given us some of AJ's biggest disappointments.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 1, 2019 3:38:15 GMT -5
I'm sure there's some examples of it working but whenever two huge "IWC" favorites go against each other and it's being hyped up to be a potential all time great match I'm never surprised when it ends up disappointing. Whether it's Styles/Owens, Styles/Nakamura, even the reaction to Styles/Bryan on Sunday. It goes back even further than that, remember when Punk/Jericho at Wrestlemania was going to steal the show? Punk/Bryan matches were better but even those were "pretty damn good" rather than classic. To get the real huge mega match feel you usually need a Cena/Reigns/Brock/Charlotte "chosen one" vs. one of those types. Take Cena vs. Styles for instance. The Cena fans REALLY wanted their guy to win and the Styles fans REALLY wanted their guy to win so the crowd was on fire from start to finish. Whereas something like Styles/Bryan in front of a smarky big 4 crowd I don't think people are that invested in who wins/loses and just want to see a good match so you end up not having that passionate atmosphere to help take it over the edge from good to great. I fear that Rollins vs. AJ will be one of those matches whenever it happens. It will be hyped like it's going to be a 5 star match but the crowd will sit on their hands for most of it and it won't come across that well and there will be a bunch of threads the next day about it not living up to the hype. The reason they will sit on their hands is because there’s no way in hell the match is ending until they get all their shit in and do 5 finisher kick out spots and 3 stealing other finishers before the end. The formula for WWE matches.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 1, 2019 10:42:38 GMT -5
I can't stand Pete Dunne. His look is terrible, his character is rubbish, and his style in the ring bores the shit out of me, the silly little 'joint manipulations' are carny nonsense. The way he holds the belt in his teeth makes me want to yank on it as hard as humanly possible. Then when you hear him speak in that Brummie accent, it gets even worse.
Seth Rollins is far more bland and boring than any high-flying, high-risk, big name star has any right to be. He's CAW levels of forgettable.
I have never thought Ric Flair was anything more than mediocre, in anything that he did. He was a big fish in a small pond, and soon became irrelevant whenever he was in a company with genuine stars.
Buddy Murphy should be on a main roster in the WWE and getting a serious push. He's one of the most consistently impressive wrestlers I've seen in a long time.
This probably isn't sacrilegious, but I doubt many people will wholeheartedly agree - Rusev should be one of the building blocks of the WWE main event scene. He's big, looks great, can go in the ring and has a genuinely winning personality. But just because he's foreign, the dopes who make creative decisions are convinced that American wrestling fans won't ever really like him.
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Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 1, 2019 11:27:58 GMT -5
100% agree about Rusev. Been saying that about him since he appeared on the main roster.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 1, 2019 11:35:10 GMT -5
Ric Flair was on cruise control for most of the 90's and that coloured a lot of peoples view of him as a worker, and that is something he brought on himself. He had great matches when he wanted to, but you can't ignore all the occasions where he just went through the Flair routine. Ric having classics on house shows in 1986 doesn't improve the period where he was elbowdropping jackets and yelling woo if that's people's main experience of him as a performer.
Corny is right more often than not, but when he gets it wrong he's very wrong and can be blind to that fact.
I will never understand the hate Kronik get, both guys were decent l, they had good chemistry and unlike many big men/powerhouse tag teams, they weren't prone to stiffing people, sandbagging or flat out no selling.
Bryan Adams would be more fondly remembered if they'd kept him a tag guy, maybe paired with a smaller talent that could talk. Not every big man has it in them to be a solo star.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 12:47:06 GMT -5
Demolition was on its way to being a better team with Crush than they ever were with Ax.
I loved Vladimir Kozlov and thought he was a great monster hoss. Would rather watch him than boring Seth Rollins.
I enjoy Nia Jax.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 2, 2019 9:16:53 GMT -5
The unfortunate botch with Bret Hart aside, Goldberg is/was a fantastic talent.
I enjoy a lot of "weak-looking" moves like the People's Elbow, Cena's AA and STF, etc. If it can get the fans excited and people buy it as a fall, then it's a good finisher. That's a more important factor to me than simply how painful a move or hold looks, as well as a better issue to worry about than the risk of hitting or botching a super-dangerous move that could seriously injure or paralyze someone.
The Bludgeon Brothers kicked ass. They had a great old-school monster heel gimmick, it was eccentric but you could still buy them as being part of a combat sport. Rowan and Harper are both underrated and they have the tools to be way higher on the card than they've been presented so far. (There was one match between Harper and AJ Styles where Luke gave AJ a sick lariat atfer the match, and AJ did a beautiful flip sell and took it like death. I thought to myself "this is the moment where Luke Harper's finally going to become a big star", but alas it's yet to happen.)
I'm not sure if Rock would have taken off the way he did without Foley/Mankind acting as a foil to the Rock's arrogance. I know we're talking about Attitude audiences and he was amazing on the mic, but the Rock/Sock friendship added a lot to Rock's character and was probably a big factor why he was able to keep such, in retrospect, a rather dickish character over with crowds.
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Post by chronocross on Feb 2, 2019 11:07:18 GMT -5
I would have rather had Braun win the Rumble than Seth and have him finally beat Brock at Mania, can't say I'm looking forward to the Seth/Brock encounter.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 2, 2019 11:15:25 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was a hell of a worker who earned his right to have sway over his booking by making promoters a shit ton of money for decades.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 2, 2019 11:39:56 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks AEW will challenge the WWE as the number 1 company is just expressing typical anti establishment smark delusional sentiment.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 2, 2019 16:18:42 GMT -5
And since you guys can't figure out how to not use this thread as a backhanded way to insult other people here, I'm closing this. Guys, these threads aren't for you to shit talk.
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