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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Oct 6, 2018 20:11:17 GMT -5
Blonde serial killer looking Paul Bearer is best Paul Bearer
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 7, 2018 3:52:00 GMT -5
I can't remember if I posted this or not - but I hate most of Rice Flair's promos and think he is often nonensical and incoherent, yelling way more than he needs to. Rice Flair never was much of a talker. I hate my phone.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Oct 7, 2018 4:18:31 GMT -5
Giant Baba was the shits and his stuff looked fake. In the eighties and nineties when he was broken down and working undercard comedy matches, Baba was pretty dreadful, but in the sixties and seventies he was actually pretty good. He was never the athlete that Inoki was, but he could move well and was a good mat wrestler. Mine would probably be that I don’t enjoy Wrestlemania X-7 as much as most. It was undoubtedly a good card and the pinnacle of the Attitude Era boom, but the buildup to the main event was awful in places and the finish always left me cold, and a lot of the undercard doesn’t really thrill me either. I think I enjoyed Wrestlemania XIX more as a complete show.
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Post by cjh on Oct 7, 2018 13:10:37 GMT -5
Honestly I've always found Heenan's consent sob stories about WCW treated him like shit have done noting but make him sound like a whiny little bitch. They treated him so badly he got twice the pay for half the workload, travel, gave him health benefits the good people at the WWF didn't and he got to live closer to his family, those monsters! To be fair, the negative comments Heenan and Gene Okerlund have made about WCW were about how poorly ran it was in comparison to WWE. Plenty of guys have said WCW could pay a lot of money but WWE was the better run, more professional company.
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Post by bob on Oct 7, 2018 14:57:45 GMT -5
WrestleMania 9 isn't the worst WrestleMania ever
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Oct 7, 2018 15:15:36 GMT -5
WrestleMania 9 isn't the worst WrestleMania ever I don't even think this is that unpopular anymore, especially since the last 4 have been more than capable of taking that title.
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Post by Shai on Oct 7, 2018 18:57:21 GMT -5
Alexa Bliss is very overrated and her booking is way way worse then Roman's
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Post by Big BosskMan on Oct 7, 2018 19:13:49 GMT -5
Hiroshi Tanahashi, and his terrible bangs/air guitar/hybrid Cena and HBK self, need to go away.
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Post by WWEedy on Oct 7, 2018 19:30:15 GMT -5
Enzo Amore was great and his run as CW champion was really entertaining. 205Live was really fun with him on top, I'd welcome him back tomorrow.
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Post by evenbroddt on Oct 7, 2018 20:38:41 GMT -5
I don't see why people are so upset with Naito not being the most prominent wrestler in NJPW. Sure he moves a lot of merch, but the moment they move forward with him it would take away his entire character of "disgruntled and unhinged would-be Ace and his merry band of misfits."
He is perfectly fine where he is. Below Omega/Okada/Tana but comfortably beyond everyone else.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Oct 7, 2018 21:30:14 GMT -5
I don't see why people are so upset with Naito not being the most prominent wrestler in NJPW. Sure he moves a lot of merch, but the moment they move forward with him it would take away his entire character of "disgruntled and unhinged would-be Ace and his merry band of misfits." He is perfectly fine where he is. Below Omega/Okada/Tana but comfortably beyond everyone else. Well there’s the fact that that spells zero progression and he’s the demonstrative fan favorite in NJPW lol His first reign showed he could still be that character with the added nuance of having the title and using it to spite the company and scene, and fans ate it up. Saying the most popular wrestler should permanently play second fiddle is an interesting business take tho, and an even more interesting message to the fans. It’s not even him not being the most prominent, it’s that he needs his moment (his current use is awful) and the current focus is being largely frowned upon by the fans in Japan and even NJPW gatekeeper Meltz conceded that they’re oversaturating their focus in the US
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Post by corndog on Oct 7, 2018 21:35:18 GMT -5
They treated him so badly he got twice the pay for half the workload, travel, gave him health benefits the good people at the WWF didn't and he got to live closer to his family, those monsters! To be fair, the negative comments Heenan and Gene Okerlund have made about WCW were about how poorly ran it was in comparison to WWE. Plenty of guys have said WCW could pay a lot of money but WWE was the better run, more professional company. Heenan wasn't very professional in WCW and he was clearly phoning it in. Also he was completely disrespectful to Schiavone, who even apologized and wanted to reach out to him. It is definitely sad what happened to Heenan and he was an all time great, but there really isn't an excuse for Heenan to be that way even if the company isn't the well oiled machine he was used to.
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Post by cjh on Oct 7, 2018 21:46:21 GMT -5
To be fair, the negative comments Heenan and Gene Okerlund have made about WCW were about how poorly ran it was in comparison to WWE. Plenty of guys have said WCW could pay a lot of money but WWE was the better run, more professional company. Heenan wasn't very professional in WCW and he was clearly phoning it in. Also he was completely disrespectful to Schiavone, who even apologized and wanted to reach out to him. It is definitely sad what happened to Heenan and he was an all time great, but there really isn't an excuse for Heenan to be that way even if the company isn't the well oiled machine he was used to. I think both Heenan and Schiavone have said they eventually just gave up. Heenan told a story once about how he pitched an idea for a segment, and Bischoff's response was something like, "We don't pay you to give ideas."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 22:14:05 GMT -5
I hate when they use real life stuff in wrestling storylines.
“Oh these guys are married in REAL LIFE”
Or the absolute worst of the bunch
“These script writers in the back are blind to my talent and won’t let me win this fake wrestling match!”
Just keep that shit out of my wrestling please. Imagine watching a TV show like The Walking Dead and all of a sudden Rick says to Negan “Our ratings have plummeted since you joined the show. You didn’t deserve to be casted in this role” or something to that effect. Like... how stupid does that sound.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 7, 2018 22:50:48 GMT -5
Kane was a better performer than the Undertaker.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Oct 8, 2018 0:55:32 GMT -5
Heavy Machinery are just The Hype Bros for people that can't maintain their hype.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 8, 2018 1:53:28 GMT -5
Heenan wasn't very professional in WCW and he was clearly phoning it in. Also he was completely disrespectful to Schiavone, who even apologized and wanted to reach out to him. It is definitely sad what happened to Heenan and he was an all time great, but there really isn't an excuse for Heenan to be that way even if the company isn't the well oiled machine he was used to. I think both Heenan and Schiavone have said they eventually just gave up. Heenan told a story once about how he pitched an idea for a segment, and Bischoff's response was something like, "We don't pay you to give ideas." The difference is that Schiavone still went out there and tried to do his job as best he can given the constraints placed on him, the things he was expected to parrot, with Heenan you could tell he didn't give a crap about doing a good job. Nobody expects performers, either commentators or wrestlers, to be on fire every night, but if you go start coasting for years, not giving even half a damn then you deserve scorn. It's not the fan's fault you're unhappy, they don't deserve to be intentionally shortchanged because of it.
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 8, 2018 4:45:28 GMT -5
No, Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker should NOT have main evented The 25th Anniversary of WrestleMania. Yes it turned out to be the best match of the night by far, but for 'the main event of a WrestleMania' the match needs to feel very important going in to the event. What even was the feud for their 25AOWM match? I guess HBK wanted to break the streak and all, also I think there was that whole 'light vs dark' spiel HBK was pulling. For the record, the only matched during UT's streak to main event a WM were matches that also saw a world title on the line.
In an ideal world, a Triple H vs Randy Orton match that turned out to be actually good would be my pick to main event WrestleMania 25. As it stands, I guess my pick would be the WWE Title triple threat that John Cena won.
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Post by cjh on Oct 8, 2018 7:54:42 GMT -5
I think both Heenan and Schiavone have said they eventually just gave up. Heenan told a story once about how he pitched an idea for a segment, and Bischoff's response was something like, "We don't pay you to give ideas." The difference is that Schiavone still went out there and tried to do his job as best he can given the constraints placed on him, the things he was expected to parrot, with Heenan you could tell he didn't give a crap about doing a good job. Nobody expects performers, either commentators or wrestlers, to be on fire every night, but if you go start coasting for years, not giving even half a damn then you deserve scorn. It's not the fan's fault you're unhappy, they don't deserve to be intentionally shortchanged because of it. To me at least, he seemed pretty engaged during the hot period with the NWO and Goldberg. I've been watching a lot of WCW from that era, and he's been talkative and putting things over.
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Post by Moppy on Oct 8, 2018 8:12:47 GMT -5
I have never enjoyed Rey Mysterio.
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