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Post by corndog on Sept 13, 2018 18:47:57 GMT -5
Kenny Omega is incredibly overrated. At the very least he's become "formula" That doesn't mean his matches isn't good but in between moves he spams the V Trigger 300 times a match If he ever went to WWE he'd be perfect because he has "Ace moves" that the crowd will react to but his transitions in between moves can be off However, he's still a beast but I can see why people think he's overrated. He's 3rd behind Okada and Naito for sure in pecking order
I think his in ring ability is easily top ten in the world. I wish he would stop doing dangerous spots in big matches, like the dragon suplex off the top rope in Okada/Omega I, suplexing Juice out of the ring in their US title match and nearly killing EVIL. I agree with Tanahashi's assessment of him. I would say Okada, Ibushi, Ishii and Tanahashi are ahead of him in terms of ring work. I love Naito, but he isn't the best worker, even though he is very good, but he needs chemistry to get a great match out of an opponent. However, Naito's mic and character work are second to none and the guy has loads of charisma.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 14, 2018 17:10:14 GMT -5
Josh Matthews isn't a particularly bad commentator when he's not playing that godawful heel character. He's average, but TNA have had worse guys out there.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Sept 14, 2018 17:31:01 GMT -5
I enjoy the 1995 Rumble match. Yes, the one-minute intervals and quick eliminations are ridiculous, but it oddly fits the Looney Tunes vibe of the roster.
There's something delightfully absurd about watching these cartoon characters clumsily step over each other for Pam Anderson, who looks like she couldn't give a rat's ass.
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Post by Facetious on Sept 14, 2018 17:31:41 GMT -5
Josh Matthews isn't a particularly bad commentator when he's not playing that godawful heel character. I think my biggest gripe is his big boy voice. It's like, I know what you sound like dude. Stop it.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Sept 14, 2018 20:46:22 GMT -5
This shouldn't be considered sacrilegious but:
There is literally nothing edgy or brave about crapping on women's wrestling.
There is literally nothing edgy or brave about crapping on something that's already been marginalized and crapped on by fans, and society at large, for decades.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 15, 2018 16:09:39 GMT -5
I will never understand why people want promotons to go out of business just to free up talent they like. Guys aren't tricked into signing contracts, they're not waving away offers that are almost as good to work somewhere like TNA, they're there because they choose to be as they see the exposure as being good for their career at that point in time. Removng places for guys to work, opportunities to get on TV or PPV isn't helping them, it's just making it harder for them to get noticed, they're not going to get instantly signed to the WWE, ROH or New Japan if other promotions close, there are only so many slots.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Sept 16, 2018 0:52:14 GMT -5
The spinning toe hold is a stupid submission hold. Any hold where you have to release it and reapply it over and over again for it to have any effect is a bad move.
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Post by Kevin Dunn on Sept 16, 2018 1:03:58 GMT -5
Wwe production is better than its ever been.
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Post by The Barber on Sept 16, 2018 3:34:49 GMT -5
No, Stryker with a Y is the ROH guy with the unibrow. The commentator is a different guy. My ears are burning here Uhh...they're not talking about you, dude.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 3:44:01 GMT -5
Uhh...they're not talking about you, dude. It was a joke, admittedly not a great one but that nonetheless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 4:35:53 GMT -5
Wrestling isn’t worth getting upset at.
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Post by The Barber on Sept 16, 2018 5:40:31 GMT -5
Uhh...they're not talking about you, dude. It was a joke, admittedly not a great one but that nonetheless. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/wSCAy1zJbcUG4/giphy.gif)
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 16, 2018 7:16:29 GMT -5
He was a great wrestler but I still can’t figure out how Jerry Lawler drew money.
He was essentially a fat cartoonist but he packed houses. Like Dundee and Valiant looked like pro wrestlers but Lawler still surpassed them.
I also don’t get why Tommy Dreamer loves ecw so much. He lost almost all of his brain cells there, was booked to lose almost all of his matches, almost went bankrupt because Heyman never paid him and put stuff on his name.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 8:06:28 GMT -5
Lawler drew well because he was a good worker, could talk well and the people of Memphis believed in him. He was the hometown guy and he was also a pretty good self promoter. Dude was named an honorary Kentucky colonel and did a lot of charity work in the community.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 16, 2018 9:56:05 GMT -5
Lawler drew well because he was a good worker, could talk well and the people of Memphis believed in him. He was the hometown guy and he was also a pretty good self promoter. Dude was named an honorary Kentucky colonel and did a lot of charity work in the community. Ok ok i respect the fact that he does charity and that he was a draw. That being said being an honorary Kentucky colonel is nothing to brag about, apparently there are like eighty five thousand “colonels”, it aint a prestigious title or anything to brag about. Edit: Even Jeff Foxworthy is an honorary Kentucky Colonel! www.kycolonels.org/colonel-connection/
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 16, 2018 10:16:49 GMT -5
Lawler drew well because he was a good worker, could talk well and the people of Memphis believed in him. He was the hometown guy and he was also a pretty good self promoter. Dude was named an honorary Kentucky colonel and did a lot of charity work in the community. Ok ok i respect the fact that he does charity and that he was a draw. That being said being an honorary Kentucky colonel is nothing to brag about, apparently there are like eighty five thousand “colonels”, it aint a prestigious title or anything to brag about. Edit: Even Jeff Foxworthy is an honorary Kentucky Colonel! www.kycolonels.org/colonel-connection/Hell, even Dolph Ziggler's a Kentucky Colonel. ![](https://78.media.tumblr.com/150eb039dab66f17a37cd48888365398/tumblr_oi7n27TQNc1tedvogo1_540.gif)
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 16, 2018 13:41:37 GMT -5
He was a great wrestler but I still can’t figure out how Jerry Lawler drew money. He was essentially a fat cartoonist but he packed houses. Like Dundee and Valiant looked like pro wrestlers but Lawler still surpassed them. I also don’t get why Tommy Dreamer loves ecw so much. He lost almost all of his brain cells there, was booked to lose almost all of his matches, almost went bankrupt because Heyman never paid him and put stuff on his name. Because ECW made Dreamer relevant, without that he'd be working in a garage now, boring his kids about how he was a TV jobber for the WWF or WCW once. He'd be on much better shape, that's for sure.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 16, 2018 14:15:16 GMT -5
Some guys being able to break through after leaving the WWE doesn't mean all 'misused' guys can do it.While it would be nice if everyone could do as well as Cody the reality is quite different, they're more likely to find themselves facing the reality guys like Hawkins and others found themselves in, where being a good worker and a former WWE guy isn't enough to create/maintain buzz or open doors for you at other major promotions.
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Post by karl100589 on Sept 16, 2018 14:26:42 GMT -5
Chyna was one of the hottest women of the Attitude era, especially when she was Eddie's Mamacita
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:26:17 GMT -5
It was a joke, admittedly not a great one but that nonetheless. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/wSCAy1zJbcUG4/giphy.gif)
BRB, lighting my ears on fire
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