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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 30, 2023 15:30:09 GMT -5
The trailer makes it seem like it should be a fun movie but feels like they just took the most exciting parts and the rest could be iffy that's how Warner Bros have done most of the DCEU film trailers for the last 15 or so years. show the big reveal & put the best bits, use a song that has no connection to the film in the trailer and sit back and wonder why box office profits are down on the film. it's like they secretly became the prototype honest trailers Yeah, like they have hit the best bits in the trailer with showing some action, Michael Keaton Batman, slow motion all that good stuff which makes the movie actually look fun but feels like the actual movie will have no substance
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 30, 2023 15:35:32 GMT -5
Yeah, like they have hit the best bits in the trailer with showing some action, Michael Keaton Batman, slow motion all that good stuff which makes the movie actually look fun but feels like the actual movie will have no substance I'm hoping some of the stuff is trailer exclusive, because it feels a little forced. The "You wanna get nuts" callback in particular reeks of "Say the line, Bart."
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 30, 2023 16:12:45 GMT -5
Yeah, like they have hit the best bits in the trailer with showing some action, Michael Keaton Batman, slow motion all that good stuff which makes the movie actually look fun but feels like the actual movie will have no substance I'm hoping some of the stuff is trailer exclusive, because it feels a little forced. The "You wanna get nuts" callback in particular reeks of "Say the line, Bart." Feels like a movie in the same way like Superman V Batman in that the trailer and everything looks good on the surface and you will get the money week 1 but if word of mouth hits saying the movie is bad then you going to see a big tank
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 1, 2023 11:25:24 GMT -5
The trailers don't make me want to watch The Flash. They make me wonder why nobody has made an Old Ass Batman Movie starring Michael Keaton yet. I still have no clue how the Flash changing his childhood turns his world into the DCEU but with the Burton movies grafted on. There are time travel stories, there are multiverse stories, but this seems to be playing too fast and loose with both. Worse still, all of the creative decisions that led them to play so fast and loose just no longer mean anything: The only reason to bring back 70+ year old Michael Keaton (beyond the nostalgia pop) was as the grizzled mentor to Leslie Grace's Batgirl, but that movie got shitcanned almost as soon as Zaslav took the chair. The only reason they're doing the Man of Steel ending was as an introduction to this new version of Supergirl, but Gunn is almost certainly using Kara Zor-El for his Supergirl movie, so again moot. Even the decision to do a clearly Flashpoint-based movie is as a soft reboot, allowing you to change the game board without changing too many of the pieces, and even that is moot because James Gunn is just doing a hard reboot anyway. Arguably the best example of what a weird place this movie is in is the fact that what should be a jumping off point, as Flashpoint was in the comics for New 52, is going to be the last hurrah for almost everyone involved. It's an almost quarter billion dollar bridge to nowhere.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 4, 2023 21:19:08 GMT -5
Yeah... that's an oof from me, bruh.
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Post by thechase on May 20, 2023 4:08:22 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 20, 2023 7:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 21, 2023 10:26:56 GMT -5
Damn, they even got Stephen King pushing this movie. You know it's about to be ass.
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Post by Kalmia on May 21, 2023 10:41:03 GMT -5
There's a Flash movie coming out? I've seen the advertising for the new Batman movie with Michael Keaton, but I didn't realise Flash was getting his own headline movie too!!!!!
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Post by thechase on May 23, 2023 7:00:04 GMT -5
This trailer spoils a cameo, just a heads-up
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Post by Renslayer on May 23, 2023 7:48:26 GMT -5
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 23, 2023 9:12:43 GMT -5
Remember, you guys, The Flash is going to make us all forget about Ezra Miller's crimes and problematic behavior.
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Post by thechase on May 24, 2023 11:25:17 GMT -5
Warner are so confident in this expensive movie that they're publicly spoiling a major surprise in it
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Post by thechase on May 26, 2023 12:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by thechase on May 27, 2023 16:03:51 GMT -5
Now there's word that the film was tweeked and revised one final time to include a new post-credit sequence {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Now it ends with Barry and Arthur discussing the new Batman of the Snyderverse. This is reportedly not intended to serve as anything other than closure for this universe and the new Batman they're discussing is not part of Gunn's plans
...Because that new Batman, the one that replaces Affleck, is George Clooney and it is he who you see just before the credits meeting up with Barry.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 27, 2023 16:35:51 GMT -5
Now there's word that the film was tweeked and revised one final time to include a new post-credit sequence {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Now it ends with Barry and Arthur discussing the new Batman of the Snyderverse. This is reportedly not intended to serve as anything other than closure for this universe and the new Batman they're discussing is not part of Gunn's plans
...Because that new Batman, the one that replaces Affleck, is George Clooney and it is he who you see just before the credits meeting up with Barry. A fitting end that that's the last person you see in the Snyderverse.
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Post by Kalmia on May 27, 2023 17:07:40 GMT -5
There has always been a zero chance of me seeing this in the cinema. But the more I hear about the cameos, twists, and surprises, the more that zero percent turns into negative percentages.
I know a lot of superhero movies have cameos, callbacks and Easter eggs, but there's something about the ones in the Flash that seem especially cynical. I don't quite know how to explain what I mean. Maybe because it just all seems like a cynical ploy to get everyone talking about anything but Ezra.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 28, 2023 10:24:11 GMT -5
There has always been a zero chance of me seeing this in the cinema. But the more I hear about the cameos, twists, and surprises, the more that zero percent turns into negative percentages. I know a lot of superhero movies have cameos, callbacks and Easter eggs, but there's something about the ones in the Flash that seem especially cynical. I don't quite know how to explain what I mean. Maybe because it just all seems like a cynical ploy to get everyone talking about anything but Ezra. Setting aside, for a moment, the fact that Ezra Miller is a violent criminal (though we should never forget that part), it probably seems especially cynical because DC's entire marked strategy for the better part of a decade has been especially cynical. The decision to go dark and gritty with Superman was a direct response to the success of the Dark Knight Trilogy. The decision to rush to a Justice League film was a direct response to the success of the Avengers over at the other company. Hell, the five whole minutes they were willing to go all in on female leads starting at Birds of Prey and ending abruptly with WW84 was a direct response to the success of Wonder Woman (who was basically carrying the DCEU on her back for a while) and the critical and audience approval of the Harley Quinn cartoon. Like, even if the lead wasn't the scourge of Hawaii, in a world where Everything Everywhere All At Once was a critical, financial, and awards season success, Into The Spiderverse has the cultural zeitgeist in a chokehold, and the other company has announced the next multi-phase saga will be called the Multiverse Saga, this movie would have ended up coming out the same way. All the crime just gave them one more reason to lean all in on the cameos.
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Post by Renslayer on May 28, 2023 11:04:03 GMT -5
Considering all the headaches Miller has caused, this movie has to go on an extended run of dominance to make all of this worth it. It doesn't feel as if this movie can make like $500 million at the box office, so they're screwed.
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Post by Kalmia on May 28, 2023 13:22:58 GMT -5
There has always been a zero chance of me seeing this in the cinema. But the more I hear about the cameos, twists, and surprises, the more that zero percent turns into negative percentages. I know a lot of superhero movies have cameos, callbacks and Easter eggs, but there's something about the ones in the Flash that seem especially cynical. I don't quite know how to explain what I mean. Maybe because it just all seems like a cynical ploy to get everyone talking about anything but Ezra. Setting aside, for a moment, the fact that Ezra Miller is a violent criminal (though we should never forget that part), it probably seems especially cynical because DC's entire marked strategy for the better part of a decade has been especially cynical. The decision to go dark and gritty with Superman was a direct response to the success of the Dark Knight Trilogy. The decision to rush to a Justice League film was a direct response to the success of the Avengers over at the other company. Hell, the five whole minutes they were willing to go all in on female leads starting at Birds of Prey and ending abruptly with WW84 was a direct response to the success of Wonder Woman (who was basically carrying the DCEU on her back for a while) and the critical and audience approval of the Harley Quinn cartoon. Like, even if the lead wasn't the scourge of Hawaii, in a world where Everything Everywhere All At Once was a critical, financial, and awards season success, Into The Spiderverse has the cultural zeitgeist in a chokehold, and the other company has announced the next multi-phase saga will be called the Multiverse Saga, this movie would have ended up coming out the same way. All the crime just gave them one more reason to lean all in on the cameos. Yeah, I'm aware of how the original plans were changed to try and keep up with Marvel, but at least all of that was at the scripting stage. This has been reshoot after reshoot, tweak after tweak, to try and distract. IIRC, the test screenings didn't have half of this stuff in them. Keaton and Affleck have always been in there, it's the other cameos I'm talking about and how DC has already willingly allowed one of them to be spoiled. Even with Cavill's cameo in Black Adam they waited until a couple of days before to spoil it and leaned in harder after opening days should the movie would bomb. This is weeks in advance.
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