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Post by Eddie Brock on Jun 19, 2023 12:32:54 GMT -5
Jensen should be at the top of the list for MCU Venom. Aren't they in theory still sticking with Hardy for that He left behind some of the symbiote in No Way Home so the MCU can have its own Venom. |
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 19, 2023 12:34:48 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Yeah, Keaton's Batman just says (with spaghetti, as mentioned lol) that what Barry did to the timeline split some paths, converged others, just generally made a mess of things so random changes like that happened. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
Yeah, he basically crossed the spaghetti and broke it at the middle saying in theory this is where everything that was the same broke apart
Sort of still doesn't explain Batman being 40 years older then him but hey it is what it is. I would had liked them to at least provide more background on what Keaton Batman had done over the years
Keaton looking like the Big Lebowski got a laugh tho I mentioned in an earlier reply that the audio was PAINFULLY busted in my theater, and this was one of the scenes dialogue was hard to grasp on because the volume just dipped all of a sudden. Imagine the general volume on your TV trying to be heard in a big movie theater. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 19, 2023 12:58:00 GMT -5
If there is one silver lining to the Flash movie, its that its given me new appreciation for the Arrowverse. God knows it had its problems and its budget limitations, but pretty much everything the film attempted (mulitiverse cameos, Flashpoint, exploration of Barry) the CW shows did far better and far more respectfully. Honestly as dubious as it was not giving Grant Gustin a cameo, him not popping up in this fiasco was probably a blessing in disguise and at least gives him a chance to do an appearance in a DCU film down the road that (hopefully) will be far better handled and this one. Yeah, like for all the hand-wringing about whether people were going to complain about if the DCEU was too much or too little like Marvel, there's already one in-house example of doing a shared multiverse well: the Arrowverse. Hell, the DCAU and DCAMU did it pretty well, too. The DCEU is unique in how badly they bungled up compared to the other, successful attempts in TV and animated movies. They never really laid a solid foundation and chased trends instead of building it up between soulless, studio-mandated trend chasing and copying the Nolan trilogy's grittiness and turning it into Snyder edgelordery.
That isn't to say that the Arrowverse or DCAMU were perfect; far from it. But the failures were more on individual entries' writing and what became bargain bin VFX as opposed to a fundamentally broken structure like the DCEU.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 13:28:03 GMT -5
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Yeah, he basically crossed the spaghetti and broke it at the middle saying in theory this is where everything that was the same broke apart
Sort of still doesn't explain Batman being 40 years older then him but hey it is what it is. I would had liked them to at least provide more background on what Keaton Batman had done over the years
Keaton looking like the Big Lebowski got a laugh tho I mentioned in an earlier reply that the audio was PAINFULLY busted in my theater, and this was one of the scenes dialogue was hard to grasp on because the volume just dipped all of a sudden. Imagine the general volume on your TV trying to be heard in a big movie theater. Overall the scene was just fluff with everything considered since they explain but also sort of hand wave it away saying go for it {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
It maybe would made more sense if they kept the original ending of Keaton and Supergirl being apart of Flash new timeline but since they aren't doing Batgirl, bringing in Clooney is something they will probably never explain and just move on |
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 19, 2023 13:54:30 GMT -5
I mentioned in an earlier reply that the audio was PAINFULLY busted in my theater, and this was one of the scenes dialogue was hard to grasp on because the volume just dipped all of a sudden. Imagine the general volume on your TV trying to be heard in a big movie theater. Overall the scene was just fluff with everything considered since they explain but also sort of hand wave it away saying go for it {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
It maybe would made more sense if they kept the original ending of Keaton and Supergirl being apart of Flash new timeline but since they aren't doing Batgirl, bringing in Clooney is something they will probably never explain and just move on Yeah I assume if there's any cameos or talk of anything in Aquaman 2, they'll just shrug all of that off, heh. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 19, 2023 15:10:20 GMT -5
Also, for as much as shit as they are, Erza did a pretty decent job when you take into fact they shot the scenes two times to portray the Barrys Honestly, Ezra was excellent in this movie. Made both Barry’s distinctly different characters, really nailed the emotional beats, came across waaaay more likable then in the other DCEU movies, if it weren’t for all the bullshit in real life this should’ve made Ezra into a big name. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 15:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 15:25:50 GMT -5
Also, for as much as shit as they are, Erza did a pretty decent job when you take into fact they shot the scenes two times to portray the Barrys Honestly, Ezra was excellent in this movie. Made both Barry’s distinctly different characters, really nailed the emotional beats, came across waaaay more likable then in the other DCEU movies, if it weren’t for all the bullshit in real life this should’ve made Ezra into a big name. The moving acting wise, everyone played their parts well. It is just the movie itself was all over the place with how they structured it. It was slow and then felt rushed |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 15:29:21 GMT -5
Overall the scene was just fluff with everything considered since they explain but also sort of hand wave it away saying go for it {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
It maybe would made more sense if they kept the original ending of Keaton and Supergirl being apart of Flash new timeline but since they aren't doing Batgirl, bringing in Clooney is something they will probably never explain and just move on Yeah I assume if there's any cameos or talk of anything in Aquaman 2, they'll just shrug all of that off, heh. Aquaman: Barry you were drunk, all that shit never happened Flash: Actually, you were Aquaman: True, I am drunk right now as we speak Speaking of which, how the f*** is this going to work with Momoa taking over as Lobo (reportedly). Just going to assume this movie doesn't matter either |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 19, 2023 15:32:07 GMT -5
So... I'm going to ask a question to those that saw the movie. Do they explain how Barry going back in time aged Bruce Wayne like 2 decades? Cause... that makes no sense... especially since Bruce should have already been like 20 at that point... {Spoiler}Basically it’s just like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff |
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Post by schma on Jun 19, 2023 15:36:24 GMT -5
So... I'm going to ask a question to those that saw the movie. Do they explain how Barry going back in time aged Bruce Wayne like 2 decades? Cause... that makes no sense... especially since Bruce should have already been like 20 at that point... Sounds like they went to the Michael Bay School of Shut Up Nerd. Only nerds care about things like geography and time and logic.
(It really would have made more sense for him to be Thomas)
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 15:40:28 GMT -5
So... I'm going to ask a question to those that saw the movie. Do they explain how Barry going back in time aged Bruce Wayne like 2 decades? Cause... that makes no sense... especially since Bruce should have already been like 20 at that point... Sounds like they went to the Michael Bay School of Shut Up Nerd. Only nerds care about things like geography and time and logic.
(It really would have made more sense for him to be Thomas)
It was mentioned before, you should just made him Thomas and Pfeifer as Martha and you still could have paid homage to this actors in this movie instead of trying to cash on 89 Batman hype But, this was supposed to feed into the now cancelled Batgirl |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 19, 2023 16:30:03 GMT -5
Speaking of which, how the f*** is this going to work with Momoa taking over as Lobo (reportedly). Just going to assume this movie doesn't matter either It won't matter at all. Gunn's refusing to say he's rebooting virtually from scratch because there's half a billion dollars worth of investment in The Flash and Aquaman 2. Flash looking set to post massive losses just makes it all the easier for him to say next year "Yeah, now all that bullshit's over, we're starting fresh." Peacemaker notwithstanding, of course. |
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Post by Renslayer on Jun 19, 2023 16:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 16:38:18 GMT -5
Speaking of which, how the f*** is this going to work with Momoa taking over as Lobo (reportedly). Just going to assume this movie doesn't matter either It won't matter at all. Gunn's refusing to say he's rebooting virtually from scratch because there's half a billion dollars worth of investment in The Flash and Aquaman 2. Flash looking set to post massive losses just makes it all the easier for him to say next year "Yeah, now all that bullshit's over, we're starting fresh." Peacemaker notwithstanding, of course. He's pretty much hinted he's rebooting everything as Keaton was originally supposed to stay on and be a Nick Fury type leader but that's scrapped. Even if it didn't change, he said he was going to have his own Batman in the Batman and Damian movie he is going with Only thing they might keep out of this is possibly. The L's they took def makes this decision a lot easier |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 16:46:04 GMT -5
Even when he lost, he still somehow won too BA 2 still not going to get greenlit tho |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 19, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -5
Speaking of which, how the f*** is this going to work with Momoa taking over as Lobo (reportedly). Just going to assume this movie doesn't matter either It won't matter at all. Gunn's refusing to say he's rebooting virtually from scratch because there's half a billion dollars worth of investment in The Flash and Aquaman 2. Flash looking set to post massive losses just makes it all the easier for him to say next year "Yeah, now all that bullshit's over, we're starting fresh." Peacemaker notwithstanding, of course. Yeah he wasn't going to say Miller is out in the case that it made a billion and he was forced to keep them. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 19, 2023 16:49:35 GMT -5
He's pretty much hinted he's rebooting everything as Keaton was originally supposed to stay on and be a Nick Fury type leader but that's scrapped. Even if it didn't change, he said he was going to have his own Batman in the Batman and Damian movie he is going with Only thing they might keep out of this is possibly. The L's they took def makes this decision a lot easier Yeah, he's basically trying not to hurt the box office going forward until his movies are in production, but I think that horse has bolted. General audiences don't give a shit about the remnants of the Snyderverse, and most of the hardcore audience has already written off the remaining movies as the reboot is clear as day. It's really only a question of how much they'll lose. The pressure is really on for Superman Legacy to succeed. The've got to drive home the point that it's fresh, new, and has nothing to do with what general audiences hated about the DCEU. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 19, 2023 16:50:13 GMT -5
Even when he lost, he still somehow won too BA 2 still not going to get greenlit tho Sticking birds of prey on there is rather disingenuous too... As is the original Shazam which made more money than Black Adam due to it's smaller budget. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 16:58:49 GMT -5
He's pretty much hinted he's rebooting everything as Keaton was originally supposed to stay on and be a Nick Fury type leader but that's scrapped. Even if it didn't change, he said he was going to have his own Batman in the Batman and Damian movie he is going with Only thing they might keep out of this is possibly. The L's they took def makes this decision a lot easier Yeah, he's basically trying not to hurt the box office going forward until his movies are in production, but I think that horse has bolted. General audiences don't give a shit about the remnants of the Snyderverse, and most of the hardcore audience has already written off the remaining movies as the reboot is clear as day. It's really only a question of how much they'll lose. The pressure is really on for Superman Legacy to succeed. The've got to drive home the point that it's fresh, new, and has nothing to do with what general audiences hated about the DCEU. Which could still be a possible mistake throwing Superman out there so fast again but good chance Gunn carries some goodwill in that everything DCEU from before doesn't rub off on him. The Suicide Squad was a fun movie and he has Peacemaker TV series too so people have bought into what he put out Flash was already DOA and Aquadman most likely will be too just cause they don't matter |
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