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Post by Savage Gambino on Jun 20, 2023 11:03:58 GMT -5
Sticking birds of prey on there is rather disingenuous too... As is the original Shazam which made more money than Black Adam due to it's smaller budget. Yeah, just posting the total gross revenue doesn't really tell the whole story of how profitable (or not) a movie was. To that end, Shazam and Birds of Prey are the only movies listed that actually turned a profit, with Black Adam, Shazam, and now The Flash all losing WBD money. That also means, outside of The Batman, not a single DC film has turned a profit in almost four years. |
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Jun 20, 2023 22:28:04 GMT -5
Turns out that the $55.1 million estimate for Flash was underestimating the movie! ... It actually made $55.7 million. Come to find out the initial estimate was a smidge too generous. Flash finished below at a flat 55 million. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 20, 2023 22:46:39 GMT -5
Turns out that the $55.1 million estimate for Flash was underestimating the movie! ... It actually made $55.7 million. Come to find out the initial estimate was a smidge too generous. Flash finished below at a flat 55 million. I blame Eobard. |
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Post by KingPooper on Jun 21, 2023 0:35:27 GMT -5
Someone made a good point this would have been an okay second second or third Flash movie, instead of the first. It would have been like if No Way Home was the first Spider-Man film after Civil War. Sometimes it okay to build up a world and have Flash fight a giant gorilla or captain cold. Just like BM v. SM they jump like two or three movies.
Also it’s bad because the Flash is an annoying ass character and the worst part of the JL film. Who would seriously want to see a film with two of him.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 21, 2023 0:52:13 GMT -5
Come to find out the initial estimate was a smidge too generous. Flash finished below at a flat 55 million. I blame Eobard. That's just domestic. Including international, it's currently at about $135 million. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 21, 2023 1:08:07 GMT -5
That's just domestic. Including international, it's currently at about $135 million. Which is $30 million short of its projected worldwide opening weekend. With a reported $600 million break even it looks likely this is going to be one of the biggest box office bombs of all time. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 21, 2023 1:31:52 GMT -5
That's just domestic. Including international, it's currently at about $135 million. Which is $30 million short of its projected worldwide opening weekend. With a reported $600 million break even it looks likely this is going to be one of the biggest box office bombs of all time. It's actually not outside the realm of possibility it manages to beat out John Carter for the #1 spot. About the only thing that might save it is that there aren't really any big releases this week so its second weekend drop might not be the worst. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 21, 2023 2:55:53 GMT -5
I don't care... I loved Birds of Prey. Just wanted to say that. LOL Also... how did The Suicide Squad do because I really liked that too? It only made $168 million but it was a simultaneous release with HBO Max so it's not really fair to judge. No it wasn’t. Birds of Prey had 4-5 weeks in theatres before the NBA suspended play, and didn’t come out on VOD until a couple weeks after that. It didn’t hit HBO Max for months |
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 21, 2023 3:37:12 GMT -5
It only made $168 million but it was a simultaneous release with HBO Max so it's not really fair to judge. No it wasn’t. Birds of Prey had 4-5 weeks in theatres before the NBA suspended play, and didn’t come out on VOD until a couple weeks after that. It didn’t hit HBO Max for months Lizuka meant James Gunn's Suicide Squad that came out during the pandemic, not BoP. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 21, 2023 5:01:41 GMT -5
No it wasn’t. Birds of Prey had 4-5 weeks in theatres before the NBA suspended play, and didn’t come out on VOD until a couple weeks after that. It didn’t hit HBO Max for months Lizuka meant James Gunn's Suicide Squad that came out during the pandemic, not BoP. Yeah, I probably shouldn’t be posting when the dogs wake me up at 2am. My bad |
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Post by Ryushinku on Jun 21, 2023 6:37:32 GMT -5
Don't think The Rock could be crowing too much about the situation - and being fair I don't think he is, just some of his fanbase. "Ha ha, my film lost less money than yours!" isn't a great brag to go with. I'd really love to see a detailed breakdown sometime on why Shazam 2 flopped. It probably mostly boils down to the rebooting thing, but it does feel like there kind of has to be a combination of reasons why it went from a movie that did pretty decently for its budget and was thought extremely highly of to just faceplanting into the dirt to an astronomical degree. It's basically the same set of circumstances Spider-Verse is riding to being a massive hit, though granted while I thought it was okay Fury of the Gods certainly wasn't that good. It wasn't even like people hated the second film, yeah. It just came and went like a summer breeze. I think, beforehand, it really was affected most by Gunn coming in and full knowledge that a reboot was coming. Plus Zachery Levi making dumb comments on Twitter about Pfizer/Covid vaccines didn't help. that soured some people. And then when it came out, the movie just wasn't that good. So it didn't have staying power. The same big three issues people are having with Flash, I suppose. Flash is a better film in comparison, but then the main star's controversy is wayyyy heavier. This could be a really nasty second week drop. Like 70% kind of range nasty. |
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Post by schma on Jun 21, 2023 8:19:52 GMT -5
I find it kind of interesting that for some, the end of the snyderverse means these movies don't matter. I understand why, but it's a phenomenon that we've never really seen before. It's the flipsife to the shared universe coin.
We've seen attempted shared universes fail to get off the ground, but now we have a string of movies essentially being written off because they won't have sequels or interconnected movies anymore. There are other reasons for their failures, but seeing this as one of the big reasons is kind of fascinating.
If I were an exec I'd be looking at the past 10-15 years and how things have changed very closely.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 21, 2023 9:56:17 GMT -5
I find it kind of interesting that for some, the end of the snyderverse means these movies don't matter. I understand why, but it's a phenomenon that we've never really seen before. It's the flipsife to the shared universe coin. We've seen attempted shared universes fail to get off the ground, but now we have a string of movies essentially being written off because they won't have sequels or interconnected movies anymore. There are other reasons for their failures, but seeing this as one of the big reasons is kind of fascinating. If I were an exec I'd be looking at the past 10-15 years and how things have changed very closely. I mean, I get the mentality. How excited for The Fellowship of the Rings would you have been if New Line had announced before it was released “there’s only a 5% chance we ever make Two Towers or Return of the King regardless of how well this movie does”? |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 21, 2023 10:00:06 GMT -5
Looking at how this is bombing, DC really should've just released Batgirl.
I thought The Flash was mostly fine with some stuff I really liked and some stuff I didn't (that CGI is HORRIFIC). But I now am in love with Sasha Calle so there's that.
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Post by KingPooper on Jun 21, 2023 12:11:27 GMT -5
Also, another I'm sick of in multiverse movies..."well technically it's not the OG 89 Batman just one really close to him." They said the same thing with Peggy Carter in MOM and some of the Spider-Men in Across the Spider-Man. No. I want the originals. I want any consequences that happen to them to stick. What's the point if just some Batman or Spider-Man that's 99% like them, and the OG is living his life somewhere with Vicky Vale.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 21, 2023 12:17:21 GMT -5
Also, another I'm sick of in multiverse movies..."well technically it's not the OG 89 Batman just one really close to him." They said the same thing with Peggy Carter in MOM and some of the Spider-Men in Across the Spider-Man. No. I want the originals. I want any consequences that happen to them to stick. What's the point if just some Batman or Spider-Man that's 99% like them, and the OG is living his life somewhere with Vicky Vale. They should have just done a direct sequel to Batman Returns. I'm hearing people saying they missed the "window of nostalgia" for that, but I call bullshit. It's one of the most iconic comic book movies of all time. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 21, 2023 13:01:07 GMT -5
Also, another I'm sick of in multiverse movies..."well technically it's not the OG 89 Batman just one really close to him." They said the same thing with Peggy Carter in MOM and some of the Spider-Men in Across the Spider-Man. No. I want the originals. I want any consequences that happen to them to stick. What's the point if just some Batman or Spider-Man that's 99% like them, and the OG is living his life somewhere with Vicky Vale. They should have just done a direct sequel to Batman Returns. I'm hearing people saying they missed the "window of nostalgia" for that, but I call bullshit. It's one of the most iconic comic book movies of all time. Dark Knight Returns meets the Burton Batman movies? Hell yeah. Or Keaton as aging Batman to kick off a live action Batman Beyond |
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Post by schma on Jun 21, 2023 13:29:34 GMT -5
They should have just done a direct sequel to Batman Returns. I'm hearing people saying they missed the "window of nostalgia" for that, but I call bullshit. It's one of the most iconic comic book movies of all time. Dark Knight Returns meets the Burton Batman movies? Hell yeah. Or Keaton as aging Batman to kick off a live action Batman Beyond I know there's been calls in the past for a Batman Beyond with Keaton in the Bruce Wayne role. I think it'd be great. |
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Post by thechase on Jun 22, 2023 1:06:31 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2023 1:45:27 GMT -5
I have my doubts. I know Batman is the cash cow, but I just don't see Gunn running with three Batmen from three separate continuities at the same time. |
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