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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 2, 2019 20:39:25 GMT -5
I'm quite surprised how normal the nude pic thing has become. Not casting judgment or anything, I'm an absolute prude. It just surprises me. I don't really get it and am also surprised how normal it has become. I feel bad for her and everything as she seems like a nice girl but I don't really get what the point of it is and with so many instances of them getting leaked you think it would be something you would avoid. Just seems like common sense to me.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jan 2, 2019 22:16:26 GMT -5
People do it because they get horny
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 2, 2019 22:23:31 GMT -5
People do it because they are people.
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Post by Muskrat on Jan 2, 2019 22:33:22 GMT -5
Nothing quite as cruel, or so incredibly sexy, as getting a nude pic from your girl 2 hours before you’re done work saying “I’ll be waiting.......”
Seriously, nude pics are awesome. I totally get it, especially when working on the road.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 2, 2019 22:47:50 GMT -5
I've gotten my fair share of nude pics from girlfriends/my wife, and have sent a fair number too (and I feel terrible for the people who have to witness that, lol). Even with the ways some of those girls hurt me, the thought of passing on something that was entrusted to me of someone in their most vulnerable would never cross my mind even for a second.
Also, just because you don't "get it" means nothing. These people have a right to their privacy even when they reveal sides of themselves to others they don't wish to share with others. If they want to be exhibitionist about it and throw a nude out there for everyone to enjoy, have at it. When it's shared in intimacy, who is anyone to judge at that point?
Anyone who betrays that kind of trust, even in the aftermath of a rotten relationship, deserves the book thrown at them. I don't care what they do to you, you're scraping below them if you pull crap like that.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jan 2, 2019 23:26:50 GMT -5
Most wrestlers are probably in long distance relationships so it makes sense that there would be pictures sent to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 23:29:42 GMT -5
I don't get the nude pic thing either honestly but people's privacy should still be respected. Yes yes, common sense and all, but how difficult is it to just not be a scumbag and not leak someone's most intimate moments?
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 0:11:41 GMT -5
I'm quite surprised how normal the nude pic thing has become. Not casting judgment or anything, I'm an absolute prude. It just surprises me. I don't really get it and am also surprised how normal it has become. I feel bad for her and everything as she seems like a nice girl but I don't really get what the point of it is and with so many instances of them getting leaked you think it would be something you would avoid. Just seems like common sense to me. Common sense in that in 2019 one should expect a level of security and privacy. With how many times credit cards get stolen online, would you think common sense would be to stop using credit cards to pay for things on the internet?
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 0:13:34 GMT -5
Most wrestlers are probably in long distance relationships so it makes sense that there would be pictures sent to each other. Yeah, if anything, advances in digital privacy have done far more to help the personal lives of those in the industry than hurt it.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 0:20:47 GMT -5
This is a shitty situation, and I am in NO way trying to put any of the blame on Toni or victim shame in ANY way, but good lord...you would think by now that people would have learned to just not send people nudes. This isn't even a new phenomenon and can't be blamed on social media. This has been going on since cameras became a common thing for people to own. Most people forget (or don't know) that the Tommy-Pam video wasn't even the first time that Tommy had pictures and such leak. It happened to him back in the 80's as well. It just seems like such an unnecessary risk to me, especially in a day and age where people are shittier than ever, and social media allows things to spread within minutes. This is you putting a blame on the victims. That may not be your intent, but your taking the stance of "if the nudes didn't exist, this problem goes away," which puts fault on the victims. If you don't feel comfortable taking nudes, then don't take them. But to suggest there is a lesson to be "learned" here is wrong. Any person has the right and reasonable entitlement to complete privacy with who they choose to share their digital information with. By calling it an "unnecessary risk" because of how people are or social media, you're basically absolving everyone from blame except the victims. Should people not pay online with their credit cards either because of the constant treat of cyber security? Should bills/renewals just not have anything to do with the internet at all? Same principle applies. Please be more considerate with your words. This is a shitty situation, and I am in NO way trying to put any of the blame on Toni or victim shame in ANY way, but good lord...you would think by now that people would have learned to just not send people nudes. This isn't even a new phenomenon and can't be blamed on social media. This has been going on since cameras became a common thing for people to own. Most people forget (or don't know) that the Tommy-Pam video wasn't even the first time that Tommy had pictures and such leak. It happened to him back in the 80's as well. It just seems like such an unnecessary risk to me, especially in a day and age where people are shittier than ever, and social media allows things to spread within minutes. Or you could just be... you know, not embarrassed about it. I’m not saying she’s WRONG to be. I’m just saying... it’s only sex. We all do it. It's about consent. She had her privacy violated and the choice to who can see her in her most intimate moments taken away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 0:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 3, 2019 1:20:52 GMT -5
I was starting to get worried,I hadn't heard about her leaks until I came onto the board but I saw a lot of wrestlers on my twitter feed with posts about what an awesome person Toni is so I feared she suffered a bad injury taking her out a year or worse.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 3, 2019 1:31:52 GMT -5
I don't really get it and am also surprised how normal it has become. I feel bad for her and everything as she seems like a nice girl but I don't really get what the point of it is and with so many instances of them getting leaked you think it would be something you would avoid. Just seems like common sense to me. Common sense in that in 2019 one should expect a level of security and privacy. With how many times credit cards get stolen online, would you think common sense would be to stop using credit cards to pay for things on the internet? Well with your credit card you should have a pretty general idea to know who it's safe to give it out to so yes common sense does still play a factor. I only use my credit card online for well known places that I know I'm most likely going to be safe with (Amazon, Best Buy etc.). I'm never going send it out to some obscure website because I know the risk. They are two completely different things anyways. I might have to use my credit card online to get someone a Christmas gift because they didn't have what I wanted to get them at the store. With nude photos it's not something you really don't have to do and it's something that's completely avoidable. Relationships can end and people can get vindictive. If there's been instances of it happening in the past, if you don't want it getting out there, and if you know it's something that can possibly come back to haunt you then just don't do it. I don't know to me it is very much common sense. Just think things through before you do it. Not that hard. Privacy should absolutely be respected but you have to be smart and know obvious risks.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 3, 2019 2:30:54 GMT -5
People do it because they get horny Mantaur was doing it before it was cool.
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Post by MAGGLE on Jan 3, 2019 2:57:29 GMT -5
I am at a point where I usually take a look and just continue my life. Its a dumb move to take one and not to protect it but I think no one cares anymore except internet trolls. And you realy should just ignore them.
Toni look at Paige, the world doesnt end. People just take a look at a body which is similar to millions of peoples bodys and continue their lifes. People who harrass you dont have one to continue.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 2:57:58 GMT -5
Common sense in that in 2019 one should expect a level of security and privacy. With how many times credit cards get stolen online, would you think common sense would be to stop using credit cards to pay for things on the internet? Well with your credit card you should have a pretty general idea to know who it's safe to give it out to so yes common sense does still play a factor. I only use my credit card online for well known places that I know I'm most likely going to be safe with (Amazon, Best Buy etc.). I'm never going send it out to some obscure website because I know the risk. They are two completely different things anyways. I might have to use my credit card online to get someone a Christmas gift because they didn't have what I wanted to get them at the store. With nude photos it's not something you really don't have to do and it's something that's completely avoidable. Relationships can end and people can get vindictive. If there's been instances of it happening in the past, if you don't want it getting out there, and if you know it's something that can possibly come back to haunt you then just don't do it. I don't know to me it is very much common sense. Just think things through before you do it. Not that hard. Privacy should absolutely be respected but you have to be smart and know obvious risks. And an employee of any institution you share your credit card with could easily get your data and sell/exploit it. Plenty of major retailers across the world have had their data security compromised. It's still a risk. Using a credit card to get someone a Christmas gift is just as avoidable as sending a naked picture. They're both things people opt to do because of a level of trust. It's the exact same thing. Unless you're completely cynical, jaded and just assume everyone is going to become vindictive and screw you over (or that every website is eventually going to use your data for nefarious reasons), this isn't in any way "common sense." It's your personal preference at the absolute most. You don't want to send nudes? Fine, that's your prerogative entirely. Say everyone else on the face of the earth is at risk and therefore should not take a photo of themselves with any nudity for any reason because it's not safe? That's unhealthy paranoia and an inaccurate view of the modern expectations and reality of data privacy.
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Post by trollrogue on Jan 3, 2019 3:03:52 GMT -5
I don't get the nude pic thing either honestly but people's privacy should still be respected. Yes yes, common sense and all, but how difficult is it to just not be a scumbag and not leak someone's most intimate moments? Now I'm certainly playing Devil's Advocate here, but since you made a general comment about how anybody would be a scumbag for leaking someone's private moments, rather than Toni Storm could we not also apply this to Hulk Hogan's sextape/controversial comments being leaked without his permission. And if not, why?
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 3:16:34 GMT -5
I don't get the nude pic thing either honestly but people's privacy should still be respected. Yes yes, common sense and all, but how difficult is it to just not be a scumbag and not leak someone's most intimate moments? Now I'm certainly playing Devil's Advocate here, but since you made a general comment about how anybody would be a scumbag for leaking someone's private moments, rather than Toni Storm could we not also apply this to Hulk Hogan's sextape/controversial comments being leaked without his permission. And if not, why? Absolutely nobody thinks the leaking of Hogan's sextape wasn't a huge violation of his privacy that shouldn't have happened. He was a victim. Nobody blames Hogan that he was filmed without his knowledge having sex and then, without his consent, having the tape shared. Come on now.
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Post by Phil Parent on Jan 3, 2019 3:27:09 GMT -5
You have to be aware of the risk when you send such things.
Maybe I'm a pussy, but I would never take the risk.
I did get my share during my couple months of celibacy, hell, I even kept a few that, had they been of some model, I would have kept anyways. Hot is hot.
I'm pretty sure she'll resurface, post the "Private pictures of mine were made public without my consent" generic deal and WWE will be A-1 with the whole deal.
She will also never f***ing do it again.
These date back to before to the Paige leak, I take it? I'm pretty sure everybody has been a lot more restrained since then.
What troubles me is that these are almost always people in the business doing in other people in the business. That's just shitty.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 3, 2019 3:34:02 GMT -5
It'll blow over eventually, just a shame she had to go dark over it for now. Dude who leaked them deserves to have his ass kicked, straight up. With how popular Toni is, somebody is going to shoot on his ass.
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