Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 3, 2019 4:46:52 GMT -5
Now I'm certainly playing Devil's Advocate here, but since you made a general comment about how anybody would be a scumbag for leaking someone's private moments, rather than Toni Storm could we not also apply this to Hulk Hogan's sextape/controversial comments being leaked without his permission. And if not, why? Absolutely nobody thinks the leaking of Hogan's sextape wasn't a huge violation of his privacy that shouldn't have happened. He was a victim. Nobody blames Hogan that he was filmed without his knowledge having sex and then, without his consent, having the tape shared. Come on now. Exactly, he WON the lawsuit about that part, no one said he shouldn't have because that was his privacy. But how it was revealed being terrible and what he said being terrible are separate issues. Someone steals a tape of me kicking a puppy, doesn't mean I didn't kick it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 6:10:27 GMT -5
It'll blow over eventually, just a shame she had to go dark over it for now. Dude who leaked them deserves to have his ass kicked, straight up. With how popular Toni is, somebody is going to shoot on his ass. I bet Toni's BFF Isla Dawn put a spell on the douche.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 3, 2019 7:10:45 GMT -5
Only positive I can give on this, and it's a bit of a twisted positive, is that this sort of thing has happened so much in the last few years with a large number of the womens roster (and a couple of the guys) that it won't affect her professionally. I think WWE is pretty much at the "whatever" point on these. Still sucks to see someone's privacy violated like that. After the nxt female title getting desecrated nobody cares anymore, no amount of nudes will ever top that.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 3, 2019 7:17:39 GMT -5
Yeah, Toni Storm's career won't be hurt permanently (as in, hurt forever) over this. Mainly because it wasn't like she put said photos out, or like did Playboy or some actual X-rated movie without telling WWE. Very much like Paige, she just went away for a few months to let the heat die down, then was fully welcomed back on WWE TV. Toni, when and if she's ready to return to wrestling, will come back full force.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jan 3, 2019 7:30:06 GMT -5
Am I the only person who questions why you get upset if this happens when you take nude pictures of yourself in the first place?
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 3, 2019 7:36:47 GMT -5
Am I the only person who questions why you get upset if this happens when you take nude pictures of yourself in the first place? No, we've covered this multiple times in this thread alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 7:40:41 GMT -5
How do we know it's not the violation of trust by her shithead ex-bf that has her upset? I really can't agree with the "Don't take pictures of yourself" view either way.
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 3, 2019 8:33:52 GMT -5
I consider the entire "don't have nudes taken in the first place" argument to be tantamount to victim-blaming. What steps should _any_ person take to avoid becoming a victim, especially if that person is a woman?
The same lameass argument has been levied for decades, no, centuries, against victims for getting raped or attacked whilst walking outdoors alone, or at a party, or just being in a social setting. "Shouldn't have been doing that; shouldn't have been wearing that; shouldn't have been at that party in the first place." The steps we may take to protect ourselves - the sharp or pointy object in our hands, the covering up into obscurity, the staying home or travelling only in groups, the avoiding any situation that may open us up to compromising our dignity - should _not_ be an obligation on our part to avoid being blamed or shamed. They are merely steps to take to protect ourselves from an increasingly desperate, self-entitled, self-unaware, belligerent and hostile section of society egged on by the Internet's "troll culture".
Quite honestly, I hope whoever leaked those photos is outed and never gets another date until they've apologized publicly and profusely for what they've done. If criminal charges come of it, they should accept those consequences as well, without complaint.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 3, 2019 8:40:59 GMT -5
Id totally try to tell the bookers at GCW for Josh to have a match against Nick Gage or Shlak qhat a douche nozzle
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 9:15:11 GMT -5
Now I'm certainly playing Devil's Advocate here, but since you made a general comment about how anybody would be a scumbag for leaking someone's private moments, rather than Toni Storm could we not also apply this to Hulk Hogan's sextape/controversial comments being leaked without his permission. And if not, why? Yes, the Hogan video should also never have been leaked. I'll grant you that I don't feel much sympathy for Hogan compared to Toni but both parties still should have had their privacy respected.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 9:19:43 GMT -5
Now I'm certainly playing Devil's Advocate here, but since you made a general comment about how anybody would be a scumbag for leaking someone's private moments, rather than Toni Storm could we not also apply this to Hulk Hogan's sextape/controversial comments being leaked without his permission. And if not, why? Yes, the Hogan video should also never have been leaked. I'll grant you that I don't feel much sympathy for Hogan compared to Toni but both parties still should have had their privacy respected. Yeah, to be fair I do remember the board actually siding with Hogan in his suit against Gawker.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jan 3, 2019 10:18:42 GMT -5
Yes, the Hogan video should also never have been leaked. I'll grant you that I don't feel much sympathy for Hogan compared to Toni but both parties still should have had their privacy respected. Yeah, to be fair I do remember the board actually siding with Hogan in his suit against Gawker. It was more of a heel vs heel where the crowd settled on Hogan being the lesser heel at that moment, before reverting back to normal.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 3, 2019 10:22:57 GMT -5
2019's off to a shitty start.
I hope Toni can recover from this as soon as possible.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 3, 2019 10:48:20 GMT -5
Yes, the Hogan video should also never have been leaked. I'll grant you that I don't feel much sympathy for Hogan compared to Toni but both parties still should have had their privacy respected. Yeah, to be fair I do remember the board actually siding with Hogan in his suit against Gawker. Yeah I don't care for this "whataboutism" because pretty much everyone agreed that Hogan was completely justified in suing Gawker.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 3, 2019 11:38:35 GMT -5
Am I the only person who questions why you get upset if this happens when you take nude pictures of yourself in the first place? Yes, you are. Look, it's about consent. It's about having control over who you share something as intimate as a nude photo with. You're essentially following the logic of "am i the only person who questions why rape victims get upset when they're having sex with people in the first place."
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 3, 2019 12:00:01 GMT -5
This is a shitty situation, and I am in NO way trying to put any of the blame on Toni or victim shame in ANY way, but good lord...you would think by now that people would have learned to just not send people nudes. This isn't even a new phenomenon and can't be blamed on social media. This has been going on since cameras became a common thing for people to own. Most people forget (or don't know) that the Tommy-Pam video wasn't even the first time that Tommy had pictures and such leak. It happened to him back in the 80's as well. It just seems like such an unnecessary risk to me, especially in a day and age where people are shittier than ever, and social media allows things to spread within minutes. Or you could just be... you know, not embarrassed about it. I’m not saying she’s WRONG to be. I’m just saying... it’s only sex. We all do it. Well, no, not everyone does. Nor does everyone want to.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 3, 2019 12:09:30 GMT -5
Honestly depending on where the ex is based if he's in the US could have revenge porn as a criminal offense and be prosecuted for leaking her pictures
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 3, 2019 12:20:00 GMT -5
Or you could just be... you know, not embarrassed about it. I’m not saying she’s WRONG to be. I’m just saying... it’s only sex. We all do it. Well, no, not everyone does. Nor does everyone want to. You f***ing legend for making this post.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 3, 2019 12:29:58 GMT -5
The problem here isn't the pictures or Toni Storm's desire to take them. The problem is whoever leaked them. If we started saying "Don't do this" because something MIGHT happen, nobody would ever do anything.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 3, 2019 12:40:52 GMT -5
FWIW..the most buzz about this I’ve seen online has been, well, here. So I’m sure it all be forgotten of soon. Sucks the girl had to delete her ish though. Must of been a terrible feeling. I had two guy friends who had their phones hacked, pics leaked, and threatened to pay money to cover it all up last year.
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