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Post by fortknox on Jan 11, 2019 17:02:05 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 11, 2019 17:09:49 GMT -5
Image bashing? How late-90s.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 11, 2019 17:26:14 GMT -5
Liefeld is the Ultimate Warrior of comics. His incredibly flawed work was super over for a brief period of time and he's spent decades living off that ever since, despite never being able to recapture that initial magic, he also seems to have no end of time to respond to his critics.
There's also a dash of Hulk Hogan in there as his nonsense helped to bring down a major company in Valiant during the Deathmate crossover fiasco and bring around around the industry wide crash.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 11, 2019 17:44:22 GMT -5
I mean, Punk is not first to do these jokes and wont be the last.In fact as a type this someone somewhere is mocking Rob Liefeld.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 11, 2019 17:46:40 GMT -5
I'd never thought about it before, CM Punk totally seems like the kind of guy who spent his teens reading Preacher and Sandman while yelling that superheroes are fake and gay.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 11, 2019 17:49:01 GMT -5
Punk made a joke, Liefeld spiked him, and Punk acknowledged that Rob spiked him. Both are right, both were funny. I see nothing wrong here
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 11, 2019 17:51:59 GMT -5
Oh man, this one is right in my wheelhouse and Dysco already beat me to the Deathmate discussion. I still vividly recall buying the fiasco known as Deathmate Black (which to be fair was not a Liefeld book...Red was his and it was even later). I recall the guy at Squeeze Play (a long defunct chain of Louisville comic/card shops) saying something like "Hey, man, enjoy that book! Who knows when Red will come out. Probably Christmas at this rate..." People make fun of the whole late book thing but it really did destroy a lot of stores, who had all sorts of cash flow tied up in books that weren't arriving and it took forever to just cancel or get money back on those books. I'm pretty sure that happened with Squeeze Play.
With that said I can kinda see the comparison. These guys forming AEW do almost seem more like they want to be celebs and do autograph signings than actually be pro wrestlers, much like the Image guys wanted to screw around and put out 1 issue every 4 months, make a ton of cash, and do conventions. We can even do the parallels with ROH being Valiant, though I guess the artists themselves left Marvel and ended up screwing over Valiant.
It's time for someone to do an entire retrospective on Deathmate. I think the guys from Only the Valiant did one about a decade ago, but they didn't discuss much of the actual books. Whenever I watch Mallrats and Shannen Doherty had that rant about "two comic companies doing a crossover with major characters in varied-ink chromium covers" I can't help but wonder if Kevin Smith was riffing on Deathmate. Though Deathmate didn't even have the awesome chromium covers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 17:55:01 GMT -5
... Can CM Punk draw feet?
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 11, 2019 17:58:54 GMT -5
The man who can't draw feet vs the man who can't stay on them, its Rob Liefeld vs Punk for All Elite Wrestling.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 11, 2019 18:00:43 GMT -5
I'd never thought about it before, CM Punk totally seems like the kind of guy who spent his teens reading Preacher and Sandman while yelling that superheroes are fake and gay. Nah, given how much of a pop culture nerd he seems to be, he was likely the guy who exclusively read back issues of 80s main universe Marvel/DC books and decried Image as knockoffs and ranted for hours that the modern books were ruining the heroes... Though given the quality of books in the 90s he'd probably have had a point.
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Post by Clint Bobski on Jan 11, 2019 19:24:24 GMT -5
I mean, Punk is not first to do these jokes and wont be the last.In fact as a type this someone somewhere is mocking Rob Liefeld. Posted without comment.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 11, 2019 19:35:04 GMT -5
I mean, Punk is not first to do these jokes and wont be the last.In fact as a type this someone somewhere is mocking Rob Liefeld. Posted without comment. Nice tits Captain
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jan 11, 2019 19:37:21 GMT -5
I absolutely loathe Liefeld, but I also loathe CM Punk...
My loathe-dom isn't sure what to do next...
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 11, 2019 19:55:10 GMT -5
Say this for Liefeld, for the most part he seems pretty good natured about himself and the hate. Plus, what else is there to say that hasn't been talked I've and over about by now?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 20:01:56 GMT -5
I mean, Punk is not first to do these jokes and wont be the last.In fact as a type this someone somewhere is mocking Rob Liefeld. Posted without comment. Vince would wet himself if he was real.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 11, 2019 20:20:02 GMT -5
Linkara did it first, er, before...
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 11, 2019 20:39:25 GMT -5
When Punk got in wrestling he was taught to respect the veterans, Punk in comics is a rookie that started his writing career a couple years ago, Liefeld is the veteran and he is to be respected by a rookie writer like Punk.
That being said Liefeld is complete shit and he represents the worst of the worst of the medium specially in the nineties. Alan Moore was hired by image because Rob Liefeld was killing his own creation Supreme by how bad he wrote it so Moore was hired to save it.
The comparison to the Ultimate Warrior is appropriate, you liked Liefeld’s art as a kid but are ashamed to look at it today.
If you google Rob Liefeld one of the first suggestions is feet lol. He also couldn’t draw a woman to save his life.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 11, 2019 23:21:33 GMT -5
Liefeld is the veteran and he is to be respected by a rookie writer like Punk. That's not a real rule.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 11, 2019 23:30:39 GMT -5
I mean, Punk is not first to do these jokes and wont be the last.In fact as a type this someone somewhere is mocking Rob Liefeld. Posted without comment.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 11, 2019 23:35:23 GMT -5
CM Punk has the maturity of a 12 year old at times
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