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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 15, 2019 15:43:53 GMT -5
I did feel it was kinda odd that the dude stopped his friend from going to talk to an attractive girl he saw walk by. Unless I missed something, nothing about that seemed inappropriate unless they were implying he was gonna stalk her and not actually talk to her. Edit: I mean, I talk to attractive strangers in public all the time. I really don’t feel I’m some sort of animal for it Because it's rude and creepy to approach a random ass stranger on the street when they probably just want to go home or something. I really don’t see an issue unless they’ve made it clear they don’t wanna talk. How is it different then making small talk at a bar, or in line at the supermarket, or with the new girl in your apartment building? In fact, odds are until you approach a girl you’re not gonna know whether or not she wants to talk. Obviously, they’re may be physical cues, but girls don’t generally wear a badge on their sleeve saying “Single and looking. Chat me up”. Sometimes you gotta take a shot in the dark Once again, not advocating he lead with “Nice shoes, wanna f***?” Or that he follows her home, and then waits to bump into her later. Just small talk, trying to get to know someone. And as someone who’s been shutdown many, many times it usually only takes about 10-15 seconds to figure it out. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 15, 2019 15:44:38 GMT -5
Because it's rude and creepy to approach a random ass stranger on the street when they probably just want to go home or something. Can confirm. I'm less than 5 foot tall and 95 pounds. I have a 20 minute walk to my train from work, then a 20 minute walk home after that. In winter that's all after dark. Being approached by a 6'0 man at all in that situation is terrifying, and it happens about once a week for me. I always wonder what guys who do that think they're going to accomplish lol. I have NEVER seen a guy get a date by randomly approaching a woman on the street or the bus or something. All it does is weird them out, by and large. |
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Post by chrom on Jan 15, 2019 15:46:37 GMT -5
And it goes both ways. Women also have an obligation to check the behavior of other women Typical response. When someone says hey guys, you need to stop it. Someone comes along with "well about them". Let women deal with that. We should start working on our fellow men's bad behavior. Typical response. When someone points out that the other side can be just as guilty, someone comes along with "Who cares what they do?"
I'm proud to be a guy, nothing is ever going to change that. I'm not going to be shamed into thinking that I'm a lesser being because of I'm male
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:46:53 GMT -5
What pisses me off is we only have these conversations about toxic masculinity in ways that are about making sure women are okay.
Like, where's my goddamn gilette ad saying you're still a good person if you're not making mad money and supporting a family at 50? Where's my gilette ad about found brotherhood getting men through hard times? About letting the pressure valve off?
Overwhelmingly the suicide cases.
Overwhelmingly amount of homelessness.
And before anybody brings up the "Well when you only complain when when are brought up...." nonsense we do it because unless it's a conversation about women nobody listens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:47:52 GMT -5
Because it's rude and creepy to approach a random ass stranger on the street when they probably just want to go home or something. I really don’t see an issue unless they’ve made it clear they don’t wanna talk. How is it different then making small talk at a bar, or in line at the supermarket, or with the new girl in your apartment building? In fact, odds are until you approach a girl you’re not gonna know whether or not she wants to talk. Obviously, they’re may be physical cues, but girls don’t generally wear a badge on their sleeve saying “Single and looking. Chat me up”. Sometimes you gotta take a shot in the dark Once again, not advocating he lead with “Nice shoes, wanna f***?” Or that he follows her home, and then waits to bump into her later. Just small talk, trying to get to know someone. And as someone who’s been shutdown many, many times it usually only takes about 10-15 seconds to figure it out. The bar example is the only one of those women don't hate and they even hate that about half the time. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 15, 2019 15:48:27 GMT -5
Because it's rude and creepy to approach a random ass stranger on the street when they probably just want to go home or something. I really don’t see an issue unless they’ve made it clear they don’t wanna talk. How is it different then making small talk at a bar, or in line at the supermarket, or with the new girl in your apartment building? In fact, odds are until you approach a girl you’re not gonna know whether or not she wants to talk. Obviously, they’re may be physical cues, but girls don’t generally wear a badge on their sleeve saying “Single and looking. Chat me up”. Sometimes you gotta take a shot in the dark Once again, not advocating he lead with “Nice shoes, wanna f***?” Or that he follows her home, and then waits to bump into her later. Just small talk, trying to get to know someone. And as someone who’s been shutdown many, many times it usually only takes about 10-15 seconds to figure it out. They don't have to make anything clear. Approaching a random woman and flirting with her apropos of nothing is putting them on the spot and they have every good reason to feel threatened. Maybe you aren't the kind of guy who doesn't take no for an answer. But there are far too many men who are, and way too many rape/murder incidents that begin with "Bobby Joe followed Peggy Sue down the street and said hi". There are places where it's appropriate to start a conversation but according random women in public isn't one of them. As always I advise talking candidly to some female friends before continuing this line of thinking. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 15, 2019 15:48:53 GMT -5
Because it's rude and creepy to approach a random ass stranger on the street when they probably just want to go home or something. Can confirm. I'm less than 5 foot tall and 95 pounds. I have a 20 minute walk to my train from work, then a 20 minute walk home after that. In winter that's all after dark. Being approached by a 6'0 man at all in that situation is terrifying, and it happens about once a week for me. Well, yeah, gotta read your situations. Chasing a girl down in the dark is a bad idea no matter how you slice it But on said train ride, would you freak out if someone tried to make small talk? And I don’t mean the persistent ones where you’ve made it clear you aren’t interested in talking, I mean some dude stuck standing/sitting beside you (I don’t know if you mean train train, or subway) started up a conversation? Honest question, is that seen out of line now? |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jan 15, 2019 15:53:59 GMT -5
I know this is a heated topic but please try and keep it friendly. I’m not saying anyone has crossed any lines here yet but this is a decent topic for discussion and I’d like it stay that way, a discussion.
Please avoid generalising people, genders, etc.
Except Piers Morgan. Call him what you like.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 15, 2019 15:58:01 GMT -5
It's a shame how many of these men were never taught that your masculinity is defined by the content of your character, not what's dangling between your legs.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 15, 2019 16:02:38 GMT -5
And I’m seriously not trying to start any arguments or anything. I’m a 32 year old male living in a town of 400 people in rural Manitoba. All but one or two women I’ve hooked up with or dated I had to initiate the conversation, and quite often it’s been random places I’ve met them. Bars, corner store, golf course, house parties, Canada Day fireworks, Movie store parking lot etc
But the idea of the woman instigating the first move here is almost unheard of (and occasionally gets them a questionable reputation unfortunately) so a lot of this is kinda foreign to me
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 16:21:54 GMT -5
Typical response. When someone says hey guys, you need to stop it. Someone comes along with "well about them". Let women deal with that. We should start working on our fellow men's bad behavior. Typical response. When someone points out that the other side can be just as guilty, someone comes along with "Who cares what they do?"
I'm proud to be a guy, nothing is ever going to change that. I'm not going to be shamed into thinking that I'm a lesser being because of I'm male
Who is making you think you're lesser? Why do you see yourself in the men this ad is targeting? This ad is about abusers, and trying to stop the behavior that creates them. I'm a man, I don't feel lesser because an ad says "sometimes men do shitty things, and sometimes we could do more to stop those shitty things from happening." That's just reality. |
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 15, 2019 16:24:05 GMT -5
Right, I'm off to buy a OneBlade then. What the hell sort of advert is that for their over-priced razors ?
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Post by blissified on Jan 15, 2019 16:39:16 GMT -5
I have no opinion either way just Gillette y'all know.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 15, 2019 16:46:23 GMT -5
Whatever your opinion of the ad, I think it is important to have the conversation about how overpriced Gilette razors are.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 15, 2019 16:52:26 GMT -5
This does remind me, I probably should get a better razor. I just use a Bic to shave my head every couple of days, given I have a full beard, anyway, and shave my armpits. I still probably would get a better shave with something decent.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 15, 2019 17:00:32 GMT -5
Company: "Maybe don't be horrible to eachother"
Viewers: "I AM OUTRAGED"
MEANWHILE
(Probably) the same people: "People get so offended easily these days lol"
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 15, 2019 17:03:14 GMT -5
Whatever your opinion of the ad, I think it is important to have the conversation about how overpriced Gilette razors are. That's why I buy the store-brand 5 blade razors at Walmart. Same shit to me and it's not overpriced. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2019 17:03:30 GMT -5
Gillette - "Men should behave like decent human beings"
Incels/Piers Moron - "How dare you!"
Idiots.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 15, 2019 17:05:20 GMT -5
Company: "Maybe don't be horrible to eachother" Viewers: "I AM OUTRAGED" MEANWHILE (Probably) the same people: "People get so offended easily these days lol" Exactly. The same people who are outraged here are the first ones to accuse others of being sensitive little snowflakes in other situations. |
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Post by MC Blowfish on Jan 15, 2019 17:06:23 GMT -5
Typical response. When someone says hey guys, you need to stop it. Someone comes along with "well about them". Let women deal with that. We should start working on our fellow men's bad behavior. Typical response. When someone points out that the other side can be just as guilty, someone comes along with "Who cares what they do?"
I'm proud to be a guy, nothing is ever going to change that. I'm not going to be shamed into thinking that I'm a lesser being because of I'm male
No one ever said that you should. Obviously this commercial has hit a nerve. |
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