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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 27, 2019 5:14:09 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. Writing off someone who didn't even begin training three years ago as a "one trick pony" when a lot of the greats were one-trick or even no-trick ponies at that same point in their careers. Fine, she did one thing that took you out of a match, but even by your own admission it was a great match up until that point. That's something that can be improved and learned from, not a damning fault she's got no hope of overcoming. Belair is all potential and she's likely to stand as a sterling example of what an entirely Performance Center prospect can turn out to be.
I've seen enough long-timers who finally "click" and make everything work out to dismiss someone who has potential and can deliver but who's rough around the edges. She's doing too well too early in the game for me to consign her to "just okay".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 5:28:14 GMT -5
I like Bianca Belair about 1000 times more than I like f***ing Shayna Baszler
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 27, 2019 5:32:56 GMT -5
Dude, there’s literally a Deville on the roster. Her name only *just* doesn't match the syllable count, though. You can force it easily enough, but still. Then you add one. "She's Sonya DeVille, she's Sonya DeVille..." See?
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 27, 2019 8:55:22 GMT -5
I had a way bigger issue with the crying after the ref bump. The emotion you're looking for is frustration, not tantrum. I find that believable You are in your first NXT title match on a big stage and have the title won Wouldn't you cry realizing you may have only shot and it's dead especially when it is your first big match. Everybody throws a tantrum but no one really cries
Would I (kayfabe) in the middle of a title fight cry because the ref can't count three? No, No I would not. After if I got screwed, maybe. Worse still in kayfabe it made her look completely unready to be in any serious title contention.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 27, 2019 9:17:19 GMT -5
First time I've ever seen her. I thought she was great. They might have overdone the powering out a bit at the end but the crowd was into it. I thought it made sense that she was just SO determined to stay undefeated that she was summoning everything she had and refusing to give up but it wasn't enough in the end.
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Post by Manute Bol on Jan 27, 2019 10:13:43 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. Is it really though? Kassius Ohno - 20 years experience Roderick Strong - 19 years Hanson - 18 years Aleister Black - 17 years Rowe - 16 years Ricochet - 15 years Johnny Gargano - 14 years Kyle O’Reilly - 14 years Tommaso Ciampa - 14 years Matt Riddle - 4 years Bianca Belair - 3 years Shayna Baszler - 3 years
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Post by abjordans on Jan 27, 2019 10:23:30 GMT -5
She is a wrestler trained from the ground up that is developing on their developmental brand. This was the biggest match of her life. She had some hiccups, but will get better. She is not a finished product, but there is something there.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 27, 2019 10:36:04 GMT -5
I'm another on the potential bandwagon, if it ever all clicks she should be someone special.
Can't help but feel her hair is dangerous though, looks an accident ready to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 10:40:28 GMT -5
Honestly from the first time I saw Bianca I thought she was going to be an absolute star and I haven't seen any reason to change my mind.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 27, 2019 10:44:23 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. Is it really though? Kassius Ohno - 20 years experience Roderick Strong - 19 years Hanson - 18 years Aleister Black - 17 years Rowe - 16 years Ricochet - 15 years Johnny Gargano - 14 years Kyle O’Reilly - 14 years Tommaso Ciampa - 14 years Matt Riddle - 4 years Bianca Belair - 3 years Shayna Baszler - 3 years Yup, just in different ways. You have vets like Ohno who's basically an on air trainer. You have Indy guys who are there to learn WWE style and adjust to working the hard camera, the bigger ring, the ropes etc. That's just as much developmental, just ask the first Sin Cara. After that point, it's waiting for a spot to open up on the main roster. Riddle and Baszler have picked it up incredibly quickly, but look at most people 3 years into their career they're still super green and need a lot of work.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 27, 2019 12:54:19 GMT -5
She has that dreaded “potential” word. I don’t think she’s close to being there yet though.
Also her attire and lip logo are dreadful.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 12:59:46 GMT -5
I do not watch NXT weekly so this was my first real look at her and for all the hype people were talking about I saw nothing but someone that was way overhyped.
She aint the worst thing in the land (unless we are talking about her ring gear) but nothing to where people were saying she is already better than so and so and she deserves main roster call up already.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 27, 2019 13:41:43 GMT -5
They shouldn't call her up yet, she needs seasoning, but I really enjoyed her match yesterday.
And Sam Roberts needs to shut the hell up.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 13:42:44 GMT -5
I find that believable You are in your first NXT title match on a big stage and have the title won Wouldn't you cry realizing you may have only shot and it's dead especially when it is your first big match. Everybody throws a tantrum but no one really cries
Would I (kayfabe) in the middle of a title fight cry because the ref can't count three? No, No I would not. After if I got screwed, maybe. Worse still in kayfabe it made her look completely unready to be in any serious title contention. I disagree. In kayfabe this is a real sport and when you are so close to a dream you can’t contain your emotions. Every pin fall is precious and you’re feeling like you are being robbed. She is a rookie so she panicked like you expect a rookie should. A vet would have woke the ref up and go for their finish again At the end of the day despite her persona and big attitude she is still human underneath and that was a good baby face moment for her
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 13:44:28 GMT -5
I find that believable You are in your first NXT title match on a big stage and have the title won Wouldn't you cry realizing you may have only shot and it's dead especially when it is your first big match. Everybody throws a tantrum but no one really cries
I thought it was just putting over her inexperience, like that happened and she literally didn't know what to do. Plus, she's never really turned face, so doing something that a heel is more likely to do in that situation makes sense. Exactly. She’s won matches and was undefeated but she has never been in a title match on that stage. She’s a rookie and she panicked. No diff than when Chris Webber panicked during the championship game and called a timeout and cost his team the game because they had no timeouts and it resulted in a technical
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 13:46:08 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. Writing off someone who didn't even begin training three years ago as a "one trick pony" when a lot of the greats were one-trick or even no-trick ponies at that same point in their careers. Fine, she did one thing that took you out of a match, but even by your own admission it was a great match up until that point. That's something that can be improved and learned from, not a damning fault she's got no hope of overcoming. Belair is all potential and she's likely to stand as a sterling example of what an entirely Performance Center prospect can turn out to be. I've seen enough long-timers who finally "click" and make everything work out to dismiss someone who has potential and can deliver but who's rough around the edges. She's doing too well too early in the game for me to consign her to "just okay". People are spoiled and forget at the end of the day NXT is still developmental. She is the definition of a prospect who’s nowhere near ready but has tools you like already
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 13:48:26 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get that "she shouldn't cry" thing. We've seen people crack in big time matches, we've seen people tear up in big time matches, given she hasn't even been wrestling for 3 years, this is her first big match, she had it won and then it all fell down seeing her act that way makes perfect sense especially when you look at the character she portrayed. She's that woman out there.
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Post by Rican on Jan 27, 2019 13:49:42 GMT -5
I’ve only seen her in last night’s match and the Mae Young Classic and have been very impressed every time. She carries herself like a star and is very good for the level of experience she has. With more time I could see her being scary good and a major star.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 14:00:00 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get that "she shouldn't cry" thing. We've seen people crack in big time matches, we've seen people tear up in big time matches, given she hasn't even been wrestling for 3 years, this is her first big match, she had it won and then it all fell down seeing her act that way makes perfect sense especially when you look at the character she portrayed. She's that woman out there. Agreed. As I said it helped fit her as a babyface as well because all fans saw was the cocky and arrogant attitude but underneath there is someone who cares about winning the belt.
Don't get it twisted, her confidence nor resolve was shaken. Her slight breakdown came from wanting to win so bad that she can taste it and it slipped away in an instant because you don't get multiple chances like that
Also as I said i'm not judging her harshly. To keep comparing her to Velveteen both carry themselves like stars with their very limited experience. You can't discount how good either at this level with their limited experience. Austin speaks about how he was still dog shit 3 years into the business. They are putting on big matches and already have the presence that it takes years for some people to have . She's had what less than 10 matches on TV total so far in her career? She will get this wrestling shit down packed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 14:04:54 GMT -5
I do not watch NXT weekly so this was my first real look at her and for all the hype people were talking about I saw nothing but someone that was way overhyped. She aint the worst thing in the land (unless we are talking about her ring gear) but nothing to where people were saying she is already better than so and so and she deserves main roster call up already. Yeah that's jumping the gun a bit. She needs at least another year in NXT IMO, rushing her up to the main roster now would be a mistake.
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