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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 14:05:17 GMT -5
She’s one of my favorite women’s wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 14:06:09 GMT -5
Bianca is my favorite girl in NXT now that Nikki Cross and Lacey Evans aren't around, but I was a bit annoyed how long she was in the "Kirifuda Clutch".... but more importantly her ring gear was absolutely awful. I hope she never wears that ever again
She's had some fantastic attires in the past, but having mini-Bianca's all over it made it look extremely cheap and homemade. What a complete eyesore.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Jan 27, 2019 14:09:03 GMT -5
Everything about the match with her and Shana Baszler was great up until the point where Baszler got Belair in the rear naked choke. For a moment, Belair stopped selling and clearly called for Baszler to "get up." From there, Belair took me out the match. Overall, I see Baszler as a big star on the rise, where Belair is just a run of the mill women's wrestler. She's a one trick pony with the hair as a weapon gimmick. Fully agree. From her entrance where she looks like a pretend wrestler in front of a mirror in her bedroom, to her "EST" thing (if a gimmick has to be explained to you in detail, it's not very good), to just her lack of anything that makes her worth watching other than some pretty impressive strength, she's very run of the mill and boring to watch. She needs a LOT of work in the PC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 14:10:24 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get that "she shouldn't cry" thing. We've seen people crack in big time matches, we've seen people tear up in big time matches, given she hasn't even been wrestling for 3 years, this is her first big match, she had it won and then it all fell down seeing her act that way makes perfect sense especially when you look at the character she portrayed. She's that woman out there. Agreed. As I said it helped fit her as a babyface as well because all fans saw was the cocky and arrogant attitude but underneath there is someone who cares about winning the belt.
Don't get it twisted, her confidence nor resolve was shaken. Her slight breakdown came from wanting to win so bad that she can taste it and it slipped away in an instant because you don't get multiple chances like that Also as I said i'm not judging her harshly. To keep comparing her to Velveteen both carry themselves like stars with their very limited experience. You can't discount how good either at this level with their limited experience. Austin speaks about how he was still dog shit 3 years into the business. They are putting on big matches and already have the presence that it takes years for some people to have . She's had what less than 10 matches on TV total so far in her career? She will get this wrestling shit down packed
Yeah my Roman Reigns comparison's pretty accurate. She's got a great foundation, she just needs to improve on that and be good. Even with the responses to her it's pretty similar.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 14:10:52 GMT -5
I do not watch NXT weekly so this was my first real look at her and for all the hype people were talking about I saw nothing but someone that was way overhyped. She aint the worst thing in the land (unless we are talking about her ring gear) but nothing to where people were saying she is already better than so and so and she deserves main roster call up already. Yeah that's jumping the gun a bit. She needs at least another year in NXT IMO, rushing her up to the main roster now would be a mistake. Another year at min
She has a lot she can improve on and she's just now getting on NXT TV
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 27, 2019 14:14:22 GMT -5
I was baffled by the Baszler/Belair match because I had no idea who the heel or face was supposed to be in it. Or rather as it progressed I got that they were going with Belair as the face but she is so inherently annoying with the prancing, the hair whipping, etc. Seriously who would get behind her? I can only imagine her on the main roster being utter ratings death, like 500,000 viewers lost for her segments.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Jan 27, 2019 14:15:08 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. The "It's developmental" argument is nullified when developmental is shown on TV each week, has a PPV every couple months and is basically it's own national touring brand within WWE. Yes, it may be development but way more polish is expected from NXT than any standard run of the mill developmental, like OVW, Deep South, etc.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 14:17:15 GMT -5
I was baffled by the Baszler/Belair match because I had no idea who the heel or face was supposed to be in it. Or rather as it progressed I got that they were going with Belair as the face but she is so inherently annoying with the prancing, the hair whipping, etc. Seriously who would get behind her? I can only imagine her on the main roster being utter ratings death, like 500,000 viewers lost for her segments. She came into this match as the heel and they turned her face
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 14:21:13 GMT -5
I get a Sasha Banks vibe off of her not in so much a talent aspect but more the way she is talked up she will peek in NXT and then get to the main roster and everyone is gonna wonder what the hell happened.
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Post by gl83 on Jan 27, 2019 15:01:45 GMT -5
I was baffled by the Baszler/Belair match because I had no idea who the heel or face was supposed to be in it. Or rather as it progressed I got that they were going with Belair as the face but she is so inherently annoying with the prancing, the hair whipping, etc. Seriously who would get behind her? I can only imagine her on the main roster being utter ratings death, like 500,000 viewers lost for her segments. She came into this match as the heel and they turned her face They better not be turning her Face. I mean Lacey has already been called up; Shayna & co. will be called up post-WrestleMania. Bianca will pretty much be the only credible Heel they have left, unless they want Kairi/Io/or whomever to defend the Women's title in a Takeover against Aliyah or Vanessa Borne.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 15:07:18 GMT -5
Even if you want to make the argument NXT is just a super indy at this point and not really developmental, Bianca's still good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 15:09:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised by the ambivalence towards Belair. Even if you don't think she's good right now I don't know how you can't see potential in her to be really good down the line.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 27, 2019 15:10:25 GMT -5
She's not there yet but there's definite potential, which is what NXT is meant to be for. Look at Shayna this time last year.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 15:11:58 GMT -5
She came into this match as the heel and they turned her face They better not be turning her Face. I mean Lacey has already been called up; Shayna & co. will be called up post-WrestleMania. Bianca will pretty much be the only credible Heel they have left, unless they want Kairi/Io/or whomever to defend the Women's title in a Takeover against Aliyah or Vanessa Borne. Yea, if anything you can more call her a tweener who will lean babyface a little more like Velveteen Dream but that is true they really don't have a big time heel and Bianca was supposed to be that person
They probably will treat it like they did Asuka tho if anything and just have challengers lined up tho Asuka did have Nia Jax to stand in her way as a heel
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Jan 27, 2019 15:12:05 GMT -5
Bianca "The Real Boss" Belair is a star in the making. But... I do agree her selling in the rear naked choke was abysmal. Her getting up for a second and third time I thought was a bit much as far as taking away the moves power (see: 5 million Fairytale Endings later on), and her just laying there not really selling kinda took me out of the end of the match. But I've been on her bandwagon from the beginning, and she's what developmental is actually there for. She's only going to get better. I like her. She's got the talent and the fans wanna get behind her. Maybe it was just her first nxt women's title match at takeover jitters. Though I felt this takeover was lackluster compared to the past 2-3 takeovers. Didn't have the big fight feel
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 15:12:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised by the ambivalence towards Belair. Even if you don't think she's good right now I don't know how you can't see potential in her to be really good down the line. Because people want instant satisfaction
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 16:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2019 17:07:22 GMT -5
Speaking of someone else with big time potential
They need to pair her and Ford together ASAP as they are already a married couple in real life. That dude looks money and has the swagger to match hers
They could kill it as an onscreen pair
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 27, 2019 17:17:33 GMT -5
I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. The "It's developmental" argument is nullified when developmental is shown on TV each week, has a PPV every couple months and is basically it's own national touring brand within WWE. Yes, it may be development but way more polish is expected from NXT than any standard run of the mill developmental, like OVW, Deep South, etc. My dude, you ever go to a local indie with a wrestling school and see the students job in a quick tag match or work a battle royal? NXT is more polished and people who get to the level Belair did are more refined than rookie trainees fumbling around and learning their way through something totally insane. But that doesn't mean someone who's been working for three years is a finished product and the fact that they're running big events has literally no bearing on the idea that someone three years into their career has a lot of room left to grow and develop. There's people who have been in NXT way longer than Belair and can't lock down a consistent TV spot, a ton of people who wash out of the system before we ever see them do much of anything. There's even two distinct house show tours that exist for different levels of "developed". Belair worked a better match last night than some people who've made it to the main show, this is all just totally missing the mark. I hate to keep harping on the "it's developmental" point because it's obvious and we all know it, but like. It's developmental. Is it really though? Kassius Ohno - 20 years experience Roderick Strong - 19 years Hanson - 18 years Aleister Black - 17 years Rowe - 16 years Ricochet - 15 years Johnny Gargano - 14 years Kyle O’Reilly - 14 years Tommaso Ciampa - 14 years Matt Riddle - 4 years Bianca Belair - 3 years Shayna Baszler - 3 years Yes. Yes, it's still developmental. It's a system that serves two different functions, but there is undisputably a wrestling school involved where people who learned how to wrestle are put onto television to learn how o be on television. What a bizarre statement.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 17:18:04 GMT -5
Speaking of someone else with big time potential They need to pair her and Ford together ASAP as they are already a married couple in real life. That dude looks money and has the swagger to match hers They could kill it as an onscreen pair
Yep. They'd be Miz/Maryse-esque except I think they've got higher potential. Also Montez's homie can be their friend similar to Cole from Martin.
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