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Post by Main Eventer on Feb 6, 2019 0:00:39 GMT -5
Well that's not true. R-Truth killed his own momentum by getting suspended. He main evented Survivor Series over Punk winning the WWE title. The suspension was months after Truth hit his Confederate uniform wearing peak. By this point he was already an afterthought. Truth was never an afterthought until after he got suspended. WWE pushed him harder than they ever had in his entire career during Punk's storyline, interfering in the Triple H vs Punk match at Night of Champions, making Truth and Miz the talking point after their interference in the Hell in the Cell main event that year, beating Triple H and Punk in a tag match, and being apart of The Rock's first match in seven years. WWE did their best to keep Truth over even during Punk's rise to the top, but after he got suspended he was done as a main eventer, he went from main eventing Survivor Series to being eliminated in the Royal Rumble in less than 5 minutes.
It was Truth getting suspended that killed his momentum. Punk had nothing to do with it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 6, 2019 1:13:25 GMT -5
I mean, hate to defend HBK because his assholery around this time is well documented, but everything about that gif is pretty much Vaders fault. Yeah. Shawn is a world class ass here but.... Dude was telling him to move the minute he started to climb to the top. Even the ref was telling him to roll. Why the f*** didn’t Vader move?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 1:33:52 GMT -5
Shane Douglas and the Jackyl has their wwf runs derailed by politics, although allegedly it was self inflicted because the locker room disliked them.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 1:38:01 GMT -5
Stone Cold punishing Jeff Jarrett for low wages in the Memphis territory, first thing came to my mind. That and Jarrett going off script and calling Austin 3:16 blasphemous and trying to get himself into a feud with Austin without his or Vince’s permission. Austin admits that he refused to work with Jarrett after that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 1:42:11 GMT -5
Stone Cold punishing Jeff Jarrett for low wages in the Memphis territory, first thing came to my mind. That and Jarrett going off script and calling Austin 3:16 blasphemous and trying to get himself into a feud with Austin without his or Vince’s permission. Austin admits that he refused to work with Jarrett after that.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 1:59:03 GMT -5
This one is sad but kinda funny. Marc Mero was gonna have a program with Austin and they were gonna feud over Sable. If you remember, during that time they were teasing a Sable and Austin romance.
Then Sable laid out Mero with a powerbomb. Sable was one hundred and twenty pounds.
Right after that happened, Austin went to Vince and told him something to the effect that the program with Mero was off and that he needed someone new to work with.
I think even Mick Foley refused to work with Mero after that.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 1:59:48 GMT -5
That and Jarrett going off script and calling Austin 3:16 blasphemous and trying to get himself into a feud with Austin without his or Vince’s permission. Austin admits that he refused to work with Jarrett after that. That’s Jeff Jarrett’s career summed in a gif
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 6, 2019 2:14:25 GMT -5
KENNEDY! Well... that was more employment than momentum... Can you really blame backstage politics on it? The guy put his foot in his mouth with the steroids comment, and then on his big face return he damn near dropped Orton on his head. It was reported that a lot of guys were not happy with how reckless Kennedy was in the ring. The main ones I heard about were Cena, Orton, Trips, and HBK, and I think I remember Taker being mentioned. These are guys that have went against wrestlers like Regal, and Finlay, so being stiff wasn't an issue, Kennedy was reckless.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 6, 2019 2:49:31 GMT -5
Diamond Dallas Page
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 3:29:23 GMT -5
Not so much that but DDP was on the decline when he joined the wwe, he couldn’t put the performances he used to have in wcw. Also Page pissed off Vince and the agents for trying to script his matches.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Feb 6, 2019 3:36:25 GMT -5
Nexus - all because of a certain golden boy. They were never the same after that. If they’d stood up together like The Shield did who knows what could have happened.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 6, 2019 3:38:48 GMT -5
Not so much that but DDP was on the decline when he joined the wwe, he couldn’t put the performances he used to have in wcw. Also Page pissed off Vince and the agents for trying to script his matches. Being on the decline hasn't stopped WWE pushing many, many people. I would say DDP counts in a list like this.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2019 3:57:55 GMT -5
Not so much that but DDP was on the decline when he joined the wwe, he couldn’t put the performances he used to have in wcw. Also Page pissed off Vince and the agents for trying to script his matches. Being on the decline hasn't stopped WWE pushing many, many people. I would say DDP counts in a list like this. I get your point, the wwe pushed a lot of old guys who were not as good as they were in the past, the difference is that they listened to Vince and the agents, DDP didn’t do that. Hardcore Holly explained in his book that Page wasn’t used to the more physical wwe style of bumping multiple times to sell a babyface comeback, well apparently DDP didn’t do it in house shows working with The Undertaker, this along with trying to script the matches, pissed Vince and Undertaker off. Page wasn’t used to how things worked in the wwf which had a more professional environment compared to wcw in which the inmates ran the asylum.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 6, 2019 7:53:12 GMT -5
This one is sad but kinda funny. Marc Mero was gonna have a program with Austin and they were gonna feud over Sable. If you remember, during that time they were teasing a Sable and Austin romance. Then Sable laid out Mero with a powerbomb. Sable was one hundred and twenty pounds. Right after that happened, Austin went to Vince and told him something to the effect that the program with Mero was off and that he needed someone new to work with. I think even Mick Foley refused to work with Mero after that. Was Foley's refusal anything to do with Sable? I remember in his book him all but admitting it was unrelated resentment due to his earlier big contract.
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Post by mrtuesday on Feb 6, 2019 7:58:03 GMT -5
This one is sad but kinda funny. Marc Mero was gonna have a program with Austin and they were gonna feud over Sable. If you remember, during that time they were teasing a Sable and Austin romance. Then Sable laid out Mero with a powerbomb. Sable was one hundred and twenty pounds. Right after that happened, Austin went to Vince and told him something to the effect that the program with Mero was off and that he needed someone new to work with. I think even Mick Foley refused to work with Mero after that. Was Foley's refusal anything to do with Sable? I remember in his book him all but admitting it was unrelated resentment due to his earlier big contract. From what I understood, Mero was the first to get a big money contract from WWE, and many of the boys resented home for that. They likely took the Sable thing as an excuse not to work with him.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 6, 2019 10:39:00 GMT -5
Was Foley's refusal anything to do with Sable? I remember in his book him all but admitting it was unrelated resentment due to his earlier big contract. From what I understood, Mero was the first to get a big money contract from WWE, and many of the boys resented home for that. They likely took the Sable thing as an excuse not to work with him. Marc Mero has to be the first notable guy in the business to get buried largely because he was making too much money lol.
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Post by evilone on Feb 6, 2019 11:13:42 GMT -5
Instead of talking about who screwed people maybe we can count those where were screwing others. In the '90s that would be Hogan, Shawn, Razor, Nash, Hunter, Austin and that's about it
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 7, 2019 14:41:19 GMT -5
From what I understood, Mero was the first to get a big money contract from WWE, and many of the boys resented home for that. They likely took the Sable thing as an excuse not to work with him. Marc Mero has to be the first notable guy in the business to get buried largely because he was making too much money lol. It was jealously because they felt that he was basically a gimmick, Johnny B Badd, and without it he was nothing, which unfortunately was kinda true. Marc Mero was the Damien Sandow of his time
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 7, 2019 14:43:25 GMT -5
Instead of talking about who screwed people maybe we can count those where were screwing others. In the '90s that would be Hogan, Shawn, Razor, Nash, Hunter, Austin and that's about it I disagree with Austin. He admitted that the only person he ever buried and refused to work with was Jarrett, and he had a valid reason for doing that. The reason he refused to work with Mero was because of Marc’s stupidity and pretty much everyone on the mid to main card refused to work with Mero after that.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Feb 7, 2019 14:51:43 GMT -5
Even if Foley wasn't resentful of Mero's larger contract, the angle still would have sucked rocks anyways as it would have involved Mankind becoming infatuated with Sable and thinking of her as a surrogate mother. So a bullet dodged there for the Hardcore legend all the way around.
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