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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 8, 2019 12:20:06 GMT -5
Yea, they had a professional i'm better this MF'er type of rivalry. I believe Austin talked about way before Rock blew up the way he did he was just an annoying "kid" when they were first started interacting with Rock was in NOD. For as much as Austin was protective of his spot I never really heard him admit or hear stories about him never wanting to not make Rock look good or take an L to him which speaks to the respect they had and as said before he has admitted Rock is one his favorite people to work with
In contrast to someone like HHH/Rock where you hear the stories about HBK/HHH trying to hold down Rock and Bret had his back. HHH/Rock was also a professional rivalry but most likely a little more animosity there probably more from HHH than anything. They obviously cool now too as HHH joked even now he'd see something like Rock working out at 4 am talking no excuses and he be like nah f*** that I can workout at that time too
They’re cool now because Trips realized that he would never be as over so he stopped sabotaging Rock, but early on? He did a lot of shit to screw him over, like going into business for himself and cutting promos that weren’t even scripted just so he could take shots at Rock. Now with HBK? Rock legit hated him because Shawn tried to get him fired. Years later in 2003, they asked Rock if he wanted to work with Michaels, he vetoed that shit. Shawn being an asshole cost him a huge money program with Rock. Yea, Rock/HHH def snipped at each other in promos and majority of the time Rock got the advantage. I remember the one when he was Undisputed Champ and he was talking and HHH interrupted him and he said something to the effect of i'm undisputed champ and you're not so shut up bitch which got a laugh out of HHH
But yeah I assume Rock/HBK has hammered out their issues but Rock didn't forget and when HBK was finally clean and able to make a good run coming back, it would have been a dream match but Rock said nah and you can't really blame him.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 8, 2019 12:27:44 GMT -5
They’re cool now because Trips realized that he would never be as over so he stopped sabotaging Rock, but early on? He did a lot of shit to screw him over, like going into business for himself and cutting promos that weren’t even scripted just so he could take shots at Rock. Now with HBK? Rock legit hated him because Shawn tried to get him fired. Years later in 2003, they asked Rock if he wanted to work with Michaels, he vetoed that shit. Shawn being an asshole cost him a huge money program with Rock. Yea, Rock/HHH def snipped at each other in promos and majority of the time Rock got the advantage. I remember the one when he was Undisputed Champ and he was talking and HHH interrupted him and he said something to the effect of i'm undisputed champ and you're not so shut up bitch which got a laugh out of HHH
But yeah I assume Rock/HBK has hammered out their issues but Rock didn't forget and when HBK was finally clean and able to make a good run coming back, it would have been a dream match but Rock said nah and you can't really blame him.
There’s a rumor that Shawn and Jannetty went to work for the Rock’s grandmother and they just rubbed everyone the wrong way and behave like divas, you know Shawn being Shawn, well a teenage Rock didn’t appreciate how bad they were treating his grandmother so he legit tried to fight Shawn.
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Post by TGM on Feb 8, 2019 13:56:25 GMT -5
Yea, Rock/HHH def snipped at each other in promos and majority of the time Rock got the advantage. I remember the one when he was Undisputed Champ and he was talking and HHH interrupted him and he said something to the effect of i'm undisputed champ and you're not so shut up bitch which got a laugh out of HHH But yeah I assume Rock/HBK has hammered out their issues but Rock didn't forget and when HBK was finally clean and able to make a good run coming back, it would have been a dream match but Rock said nah and you can't really blame him.
There’s a rumor that Shawn and Jannetty went to work for the Rock’s grandmother and they just rubbed everyone the wrong way and behave like divas, you know Shawn being Shawn, well a teenage Rock didn’t appreciate how bad they were treating his grandmother so he legit tried to fight Shawn. Yeah that and HBK believing Rocky's spot in 96/97 should have gone to HHH. Rock was something of a protégé of Bret Hart though so he was protected. Maybe that's why Rock and Austin had something of a professional respect, they both "studied under" Bret.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 8, 2019 14:25:17 GMT -5
Now if only other people were so lucky, Mike Awesome for instance. I think we can make a separate thread for all the times backstage politics happened during the InVasion angle. I'll start! Sean O'Haire never got pushed cause he didn't say hi to Droz. Yep this really happened apparently. If he never got pushed then why paired him with Piper and have him work with Hogan? O’Haire didn’t got push early on because the training he received at the power plant was piss poor, he and the other power plant guys were sent to ovw so they could know how to work. Jimmy Yang was also trained in the power plant and he admitted that Buddy Parker only have them do cardio but they never learned shit about psychology. Flair himself said that Parker was a joke and that he should’ve never even been in charge of training anybody. O'Haire was never being pushed with the Piper thing. They had given up on him because he couldn't cut a live promo. He was there to do the real work and take the pins. Even if the Piper angle hadn't been cancelled because of Pipers interview O'Haire would have still ended up on Velocity, just a few months later.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 14:31:24 GMT -5
Not sure he ever talked about it. From all accounts he was embarrassed over injuring Austin. That said Owen doing the sit out tombstone was not unheard of. He normally went for a standard tombstone but he did hit the other variant pretty consistently Really? I don't recall him ever using it before Summerslam 1997. I don't remember ever seeing the move in WWE before that either, and I'm the type of nerd that used to have a notebook of moves for guys (for the purpose of videogame movelists). I recall it being in the game "Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium" as the K Driller and thinking it was the coolest freakin' move ever
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 8, 2019 14:42:20 GMT -5
Triple H had it rough in 1996.
First gets shafted by Warrior at his first Wrestlemania appearance as Warrior vetoed any possibility of a competitive match.
Then is the fall guy for his buddies breaking kayfabe.
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Post by fortknox on Feb 8, 2019 14:46:11 GMT -5
Not sure he ever talked about it. From all accounts he was embarrassed over injuring Austin. That said Owen doing the sit out tombstone was not unheard of. He normally went for a standard tombstone but he did hit the other variant pretty consistently Really? I don't recall him ever using it before Summerslam 1997. Owen used the tombstone in his WM X match with Bret. m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5KVDb3mY08
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 8, 2019 14:46:27 GMT -5
O'Haire wasn't being punished. He got depushed because he was medicore at best in the ring and complete ass on the live mic
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 8, 2019 14:56:32 GMT -5
If he never got pushed then why paired him with Piper and have him work with Hogan? O’Haire didn’t got push early on because the training he received at the power plant was piss poor, he and the other power plant guys were sent to ovw so they could know how to work. Jimmy Yang was also trained in the power plant and he admitted that Buddy Parker only have them do cardio but they never learned shit about psychology. Flair himself said that Parker was a joke and that he should’ve never even been in charge of training anybody. O'Haire was never being pushed with the Piper thing. They had given up on him because he couldn't cut a live promo. He was there to do the real work and take the pins. Even if the Piper angle hadn't been cancelled because of Pipers interview O'Haire would have still ended up on Velocity, just a few months later. He was given an opportunity that means the office saw something in him, they also had him cut promos and do vignettes. The only reason he was fired was for kicking a woman in a bar.
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Post by crowley1986 on Feb 8, 2019 15:08:15 GMT -5
Didn't the undertaker kill Kronik's chances in the Wwe? no Taker pulled strings to get them in as he was close friends with Adams I think, maybe the other one, cant remember, it was the stinkers that caused them to be demoted to Heartland
Mike Sanders got screwed over as he didn't say hi to Hunter, he was quickly demoted and cut before the invasion
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Post by crowley1986 on Feb 8, 2019 15:14:01 GMT -5
They’re cool now because Trips realized that he would never be as over so he stopped sabotaging Rock, but early on? He did a lot of shit to screw him over, like going into business for himself and cutting promos that weren’t even scripted just so he could take shots at Rock. Now with HBK? Rock legit hated him because Shawn tried to get him fired. Years later in 2003, they asked Rock if he wanted to work with Michaels, he vetoed that shit. Shawn being an asshole cost him a huge money program with Rock. Yea, Rock/HHH def snipped at each other in promos and majority of the time Rock got the advantage. I remember the one when he was Undisputed Champ and he was talking and HHH interrupted him and he said something to the effect of i'm undisputed champ and you're not so shut up bitch which got a laugh out of HHH
But yeah I assume Rock/HBK has hammered out their issues but Rock didn't forget and when HBK was finally clean and able to make a good run coming back, it would have been a dream match but Rock said nah and you can't really blame him.
Rock is apparently on better terms with HBK, as he said he was one of the three he'd like to wrestle, when he returned at the HOF 2008, him mysterio and Cena
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 15:18:47 GMT -5
that's a normal tombstone though, not the sitout variation he injured Austin with
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Post by fortknox on Feb 8, 2019 15:30:02 GMT -5
that's a normal tombstone though, not the sitout variation he injured Austin with Oh ok got it, I thought you meant Owen using the move in general.
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Post by TGM on Feb 8, 2019 15:56:03 GMT -5
We're talking about the sit out version.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Feb 8, 2019 15:59:04 GMT -5
There was this young up and comer in WCW named Jean Paul Levasque who left after a short stay,a lot of Cartoon era WWE superstar's got there shovels and buried this guy in WCW. Thankfully he was able to turn things around WWE
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 8, 2019 17:27:46 GMT -5
Morrison’s burial unfortunately came a lot sooner, Meltzer reported that Vince stopped believing in him after the whole Melina fiasco. Was this in part because he wasn't physically violent in reaction to hearing Melina cheated on him, or is that just a rumor? Like, he didn't Stand Up Like A Man and throw a Man Tantrum about it? Because if so jesus christ this company.
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Post by realist on Feb 8, 2019 17:53:51 GMT -5
Now if only other people were so lucky, Mike Awesome for instance. I think we can make a separate thread for all the times backstage politics happened during the InVasion angle. I'll start! Sean O'Haire never got pushed cause he didn't say hi to Droz. Yep this really happened apparently. If he never got pushed then why paired him with Piper and have him work with Hogan? O’Haire didn’t got push early on because the training he received at the power plant was piss poor, he and the other power plant guys were sent to ovw so they could know how to work. Jimmy Yang was also trained in the power plant and he admitted that Buddy Parker only have them do cardio but they never learned shit about psychology. Flair himself said that Parker was a joke and that he should’ve never even been in charge of training anybody. To be fair, who was signing Flair's checks at the time? That typically dictates whose ass he kisses and who he talks down on.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 8, 2019 18:12:20 GMT -5
If he never got pushed then why paired him with Piper and have him work with Hogan? O’Haire didn’t got push early on because the training he received at the power plant was piss poor, he and the other power plant guys were sent to ovw so they could know how to work. Jimmy Yang was also trained in the power plant and he admitted that Buddy Parker only have them do cardio but they never learned shit about psychology. Flair himself said that Parker was a joke and that he should’ve never even been in charge of training anybody. To be fair, who was signing Flair's checks at the time? That typically dictates whose ass he kisses and who he talks down on. It wasn’t just Flair, Batista also shitted on Buddy.Yang did too and other power plant students.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 8, 2019 18:18:29 GMT -5
Morrison’s burial unfortunately came a lot sooner, Meltzer reported that Vince stopped believing in him after the whole Melina fiasco. Was this in part because he wasn't physically violent in reaction to hearing Melina cheated on him, or is that just a rumor? Like, he didn't Stand Up Like A Man and throw a Man Tantrum about it? Because if so jesus christ this company. That he didn’t even reacted or was upset about it. Apparently Candido did the same and it also hurt his standing. That the people stopped feeling bad for him and were like “ok dumbass let that girl keep treating you like shit and playing with you”.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Feb 8, 2019 18:43:19 GMT -5
Was this in part because he wasn't physically violent in reaction to hearing Melina cheated on him, or is that just a rumor? Like, he didn't Stand Up Like A Man and throw a Man Tantrum about it? Because if so jesus christ this company. That he didn’t even reacted or was upset about it. Apparently Candido did the same and it also hurt his standing. That the people stopped feeling bad for him and were like “ok dumbass let that girl keep treating you like shit and playing with you”. Same happened to Drew McIntyre in his first run.
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