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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 5, 2019 21:56:53 GMT -5
WWE is just entirely George Costanza talking to Russell Dalrymple at this point
GEORGE: Yeah, but nothing happens on the show. You see, it's just like life. You know, you eat, you go shopping, you read.. You eat, you read, You go shopping.
RUSSELL: You read? You read on the show?
JERRY: Well, I don't know about the reading.. We didn't discuss the reading.
RUSSELL: All right, tell me, tell me about the stories. What kind of stories?
GEORGE: Oh, no. No stories.
RUSSELL: No stories? So, what is it?
GEORGE: (Showing an example) What'd you do today?
RUSSELL: I got up and came to work.
GEORGE: There's a show. That's a show.
RUSSELL: (Confused) How is that a show?
JERRY: Well, uh, maybe something happens on the way to work.
GEORGE: No, no, no. Nothing happens.
JERRY: Well, something happens.
RUSSELL: Well, why am I watching it?
GEORGE: Because it's on TV.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:21:03 GMT -5
But i thought becky was the greatest f***er who ever lived? But everyone is getting blamed for low ratings except her, what a shock
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:34:29 GMT -5
But i thought becky was the greatest f***er who ever lived? But everyone is getting blamed for low ratings except her, what a shock Lol she’s the hottest act they have and isn’t all over the show. Why would she be getting blamed?
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Post by Dub H on Feb 5, 2019 22:37:43 GMT -5
But i thought becky was the greatest f***er who ever lived? But everyone is getting blamed for low ratings except her, what a shock Lol she’s the hottest act they have and isn’t all over the show. Why would she be getting blamed? Yeh no one is saying Becky is single handedly bringing a new boom period. But she gets all the views in the videos,sellin all the merch,selling out events and getting all the reactions.Cant really blame her. But not single person can move the needle,they need consistent good booking.SD! proved that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:38:55 GMT -5
literally everyone else is. The woman who's booking would make roman jealous. The woman who the board keeps saying is the biggest star in the company and worships every lame ass tweet and its still never enough. In fact here is the smackdown right after the rumble Big star right there
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Post by Dub H on Feb 5, 2019 22:41:02 GMT -5
literally everyone else is. The woman who's booking would make roman jealous. The woman who the board keeps saying is the biggest star in the company and worships every lame ass tweet and its still never enough. In fact here is the smackdown right after the rumble Big star right there The hard camera side is usually that empty. Overall she is the hottest act, and literally no one said she is bringing a hot new period,you need to chill.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 5, 2019 22:41:29 GMT -5
literally everyone else is. The woman who's booking would make roman jealous. The woman who the board keeps saying is the biggest star in the company and worships every lame ass tweet and its still never enough. In fact here is the smackdown right after the rumble Big star right there You can go ahead and stop trying to pick fights just because you're not a fan of something that someone else is. We need far less people on this board acting like dicks.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 5, 2019 22:42:08 GMT -5
literally everyone else is. The woman who's booking would make roman jealous. The woman who the board keeps saying is the biggest star in the company and worships every lame ass tweet and its still never enough. In fact here is the smackdown right after the rumble Big star right there She's still the biggest star they have. It's like Doug Stanhope said and I can't find the quote, so I'll paraphrase, "A stripper covered with body hair isn't for everyone, but the people who are fans will travel a long way to see her act"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:43:38 GMT -5
No one person is going to elevate things. No, Becky isn't a draw but it's not like anybody else is. They made the brand the selling point and the brand has become toxic.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 5, 2019 22:45:42 GMT -5
No one person is going to elevate things. No, Becky isn't a draw but it's not like anybody else is. They made the brand the selling point and the brand has become toxic. Pretty much,as I said before,SD Live!. They got shafted HARD when it came to having popular talent. Yet they elevated eveyrone and had great fresh storylines,and it was going up each weeks in views, it was at same level as RAW. Then WWE cut that shit out,they cut out talking smack,they applied the same One Face To Rule then All booking, pushed bad talent, went with generic outdated gimmicks and dropped entertaining mid-card acts like heath.What happened?They tanked.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 5, 2019 22:45:53 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, booking Kurt Angle and Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin and Drew McIntyre as your show's main event isn't ratings gold. Or book Jeff Jarrett and Road Dogg in feuds in 2019 in general.
But yeah, Raw's been the drizzling shits for awhile now. There was a promise to "shake things up" and that's pretty much just been the same old shit but with more McMahons. Which is, amazingly, a different brand of the same old shit, just not as recent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 22:47:41 GMT -5
Becky's not bringing the ratings up or becoming a mainstream star, but she's not the problem. Crowd reactions, merch sales and the lines she gets for her signings tell me that. Brock and Ronda don't even really do anything for them.
I'm not sure what we should consider acceptable ratings or live attendance wise, but WWE ain't becoming as big as it was in the late '90s again no matter how well Becky or anyone else is booked.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 5, 2019 22:51:14 GMT -5
Also we're looooong past the era where a single person on the regular roster is going to be a draw. Raw and Smackdown rosters are some of the most loaded with talent they've been in a generation. The problem is that the shows' booking, especially Raw, sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 23:03:24 GMT -5
Also we're looooong past the era where a single person on the regular roster is going to be a draw. Raw and Smackdown rosters are some of the most loaded with talent they've been in a generation. The problem is that the shows' booking, especially Raw, sucks. AJ Styles is one of the most boring people on the main roster right now. Says it all really.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 5, 2019 23:46:10 GMT -5
Also we're looooong past the era where a single person on the regular roster is going to be a draw. Raw and Smackdown rosters are some of the most loaded with talent they've been in a generation. The problem is that the shows' booking, especially Raw, sucks. AJ Styles is one of the most boring people on the main roster right now. Says it all really. If he's so boring, why has he been in every title match for the last 10,000 shows? Ohhhhhhh...
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 6, 2019 0:46:30 GMT -5
Also we're looooong past the era where a single person on the regular roster is going to be a draw. Raw and Smackdown rosters are some of the most loaded with talent they've been in a generation. The problem is that the shows' booking, especially Raw, sucks. AJ Styles is one of the most boring people on the main roster right now. Says it all really. And Samoa Joe has been reduced to a joke who can't ever win a match when it counts.
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Post by BigAl on Feb 6, 2019 1:11:52 GMT -5
It's scarier than that. This same week in 2016 did about 3.7 million viewers. That's a loss of about 1.2 million viewers in 3 years. There are various problems, some of which are easier to correct than others. I have a few thoughts on this: --Get the title off Lesnar. This is issue #1 in terms of a ratings downturn. There is a vast amount of Raw that is a wasteland with guys going nowhere because there is no actual champion on the show for long periods of time. --Quit with the pushes for people who clearly have mega X-Pac Heat like Corbin and Jax. Especially Corbin, who they actually said was the primary cause of terrible ratings, yet they continue to push him in a featured position and give him wins. Good grief, he main evented last night too. It's a bit sad to see guys like Angle and Jarrett out there at this point as well. I do wonder if Elias is a total ratings killer. I know my mom told me she changes channels every time he is in the ring blathering. --Stop with all the women. It is apparent that the whole Women's Revolution has been a factor in tanking ratings over the past couple of years. We can debate the quality of segments or who is over or not over, but the fact is that the idea in general is a serious turn off to the coveted 18-49 male demo. There just isn't an audience for it. Obviously this isn't going to happen but I do wonder if Rousey becomes a part timer after WM if they kinda scale back on this a bit. There was a thread after the Rumble where one poster remarked on a friend watching the Rumble and being frustrated with all of the women's matches on the show, that he had zero desire to watch a 5 hour PPV that had nearly half of the card comprised of women. --Can we have announcers and interviewers that have some clue what they are doing? I watched a few old 1992 Superstars episodes and there's some really hokey stuff there but consider this. We had Howard Finkel as the ring announcer, best ever at it. We got control room segments with Mean Gene, the best ever at what he did. Even Sean Mooney's control room stuff had more gravity than the current nimrods on Raw. It would really enhance my viewing experience if the announcers weren't constantly doing WWE Speak: WWE Universe, sports entertainment, championship opportunities (instead of just saying title shot), not calling a belt a belt, etc. It's just draining on a viewer to hear all of this stupidity. It doesn't sound like the way a typical human would talk, and if AEW could learn one thing it would be to not do any of this trash. Of course we had Vince's hideous play by play on those old Superstars episodes, and guess who is in the ears of the announcers now? I fear for Smackdown when it moves to Fox. It's usually a better show than Raw, but by its very definition it does a subset of Raw's viewership. So if Raw continues tanking I do wonder what kind of numbers SD is going to do on Fox. I have to agree with you on everything but the woman part. do you really think that woman wrestling is what's killing the ratings? I think a lot of people on this forum is going to disagree with you on that
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 6, 2019 2:22:24 GMT -5
"So and so (whether Rollins, the women in general, Becky, whoever) isn't a draw!" is a weird argument when the company itself made 'the brand' the one and only thing they're worried about as a draw years ago. No shit, X wrestler or wrestlers aren't drawing viewers in, the overall product is as stagnant as sewer water
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 2:31:45 GMT -5
I think possibly an even bigger problem than driving viewers away is... Can you even imagine WWE managing to attract new viewers at this point?
Like, unless you're already well in the habit of watching the show, I have no idea what the appeal is supposed to be. Just picture as a first-time viewer tuning in to this sterile slog of a show where even the audience doesn't generally seem to care what's going on, they're constantly going on about the past and patting themselves on the back for both their history and the company's successes and charity work, and throwing random people out to wrestle for like 20 minutes without any real context as to who they are or why they're fighting.
I'm not saying they should be constantly checking to make sure newcomers are up to speed - the constant recaps are themselves a HUGE part of what makes these shows such a slog - but there's nothing exciting here, nothing that would make someone new want to learn more about what's going on or maybe give a follow-up look the next week.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Feb 6, 2019 3:17:22 GMT -5
I think possibly an even bigger problem than driving viewers away is... Can you even imagine WWE managing to attract new viewers at this point? Like, unless you're already well in the habit of watching the show, I have no idea what the appeal is supposed to be. Just picture as a first-time viewer tuning in to this sterile slog of a show where even the audience doesn't generally seem to care what's going on, they're constantly going on about the past and patting themselves on the back for both their history and the company's successes and charity work, and throwing random people out to wrestle for like 20 minutes without any real context as to who they are or why they're fighting. I'm not saying they should be constantly checking to make sure newcomers are up to speed - the constant recaps are themselves a HUGE part of what makes these shows such a slog - but there's nothing exciting here, nothing that would make someone new want to learn more about what's going on or maybe give a follow-up look the next week. I can't tell if you're describing WWE or current-day Marvel and DC comics.
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