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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Feb 9, 2019 12:36:38 GMT -5
I mean, you say that but the boss’ son is one half of the tag champs and the McMahons are pretty much the only “stars” the company has right now. I never said they got rid of their overall problem, it only improved some when the HHH and his buddies got too old to be wrestling every single night. I don't trust bookers that are still active talent or have all their close personal buddies they grew up in the business with still active. The WWE was at it's creative peak during that time. I'm assuming you mean late 90s in to early 2000s?
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 9, 2019 12:44:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I think for me a good start is not doing some of the things WWE have relied one (and some of these are already mentioned)
So no Heel authority figueres, no constant rematches, no stipulation matches because the event calls for it (unless it's something similar to the Royal Rumble set up where it's an event like that set in stone).
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 9, 2019 12:58:15 GMT -5
Its only real chance to succeed is to be the second coming of WSX.
If there's not half a dozen explosions by the end of the first show, AEW is stumbling right out of the gate.
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Post by Dragonfly on Feb 9, 2019 13:58:31 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the American scene has always been the lack of new voices in the booking room. With the exception of Billy Corgan, every creative mind in mainstream wrestling has had the book in various forms for years. If they didn't, they came from the WWE. Scott D'Amore first booked Impact in 2005. Not only has Cort Bauer has been around in writing rooms since 2002, he worked for the WWE. WWE alum Chris DeJoseph is booking a style that dates back to Kevin Kleinrock and XPW. If a promotion is in dire need of fixing, a large cross section of fans will either beg for the past (Heyman, Cornette, Russo) or want a person with experience booking a niche (Quack, Gabe, various CZW bookers throughout the years) to right the ship. I'm not saying that the bulk of those guys aren't talented or bring something new, Lucha Underground wouldn't be where it is without DeJoseph, and I like MLW's throwback approach. But at the same time, there's no one new throwing ideas out there. No one truly different.
...Until now. The Bucks and Cody are those fresh voices I've been looking for. I'm not saying their shows are going to be perfect. Not everything is going to work. And yes, there will be things that I dislike. But at least I know it's coming from a point of view I haven't seen a billion times before. And that alone is different enough to keep me hooked.
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Post by Facetious on Feb 9, 2019 15:10:33 GMT -5
I want things like: 2. Characters behaving like real people would. If I have a blood feud with someone, I'm probably not gonna cut a 20 minute promo about it. I'm going to shut up, seethe, and start making sure the person I have beef with always looks behind their shoulder. The promotion should make sure we don't touch until the night of the match. Or my favorite that I've seen in WWE a few times this year: A 20 plus minute match that is slow, plodding where they feel each other out and have zero intensity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 16:03:18 GMT -5
I want things like: 2. Characters behaving like real people would. If I have a blood feud with someone, I'm probably not gonna cut a 20 minute promo about it. I'm going to shut up, seethe, and start making sure the person I have beef with always looks behind their shoulder. The promotion should make sure we don't touch until the night of the match. Or my favorite that I've seen in WWE a few times this year: A 20 plus minute match that is slow, plodding where they feel each other out and have zero intensity. EXACTLY. If you've made a blood feud out of this, at least one of the guys should come out of the gate trying to rip someone's head off
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 9, 2019 17:06:08 GMT -5
Find the perfect mix of promos and matches used to advance storylines and angles. No promos that drone on for a half hour. No matches that feel like filler instead of serving a more useful purpose.
And don't make the booking so top-heavy. It's what hurt WCW. It's what hurt TNA. And it's currently hurting WWE. Make the midcard and tag-team championships actually feel like big deals.
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Post by Guacamole Anderson on Feb 9, 2019 18:32:36 GMT -5
Make it realistic. For example, when you get thrown out of the ring, stand there pretending to be dazed for thirty seconds while your opponent does their hokey schtick in the ring before they do a dive onto you that barely connects into your outstretched arms.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 9, 2019 18:42:22 GMT -5
Learn from tna mistakes. If you sign wwe guys, don’t give them the f***ing belt.
For the love of god don’t run universal studios.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:08:03 GMT -5
I've said before that I think their style needs to be similar to BTE but with a lot less comedy. Have documentary segments to tell the stories and show what life is like for the characters between events, so not everything that happens between characters happens only between the 1-2 hours of TV they air per week.
You can still have the traditional stuff, in-ring/backstage promos and all that, but the BTE style is a big part of what got them this far so I think they should hang on to that. I'm actually curious how AEW is gonna affect BTE once they get settled.
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Post by boliv84 on Feb 9, 2019 21:48:19 GMT -5
Matches need to have a purpose. Seeing ambitious technical moves is nice, but not that unusual nowadays. I want something to be thrilled about/root for/against. I therefore like their wins & losses matter approach, so that the last week and moth is still important for what happens now. About the in-ring work I would like to see matches end sometimes with impactful moves that aren't the finishers, to make things less predictable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 22:15:44 GMT -5
For me it’s gotta be like NXT... only more adult themed. Blood and cursing would add to the storylines. For me that would separate it from WWE.
Also unique match types. TNA were great at this. Ultimate X was always a fun match. They had some misses I admit but for the most part they got it right. Lockdown was also a good PPV cause every match was in the cage. When WWE did “Hell in a Cell”, it was only 2 matches in the cage.
AEW has to come up with some unique never before seen match types.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 9, 2019 22:38:06 GMT -5
For me it’s gotta be like NXT... only more adult themed. Blood and cursing would add to the storylines. For me that would separate it from WWE. Also unique match types. TNA were great at this. Ultimate X was always a fun match. They had some misses I admit but for the most part they got it right. Lockdown was also a good PPV cause every match was in the cage. When WWE did “Hell in a Cell”, it was only 2 matches in the cage. AEW has to come up with some unique never before seen match types. Ehhh....especially on that second point. Lockdown sucks. If every match is in a cage, cage matches don't matter. If a feud builds organically to the point that "Locking these two dudes in a cage is literally the ONLY answer", then yeah, rock it, but just having a cage match to have a cage match is dumb.
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Post by auph10imitated on Feb 10, 2019 4:08:05 GMT -5
No overkill. That’s what makes NXT so special. One hour show a week with special events every few months.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Feb 10, 2019 18:00:20 GMT -5
I wonder what people would think about AEW picking up Tony Schiavone to do some broadcast work? There would obviously be people shitting on them, using the old "WCW guys" argument, but I'll be damned if his voice isn't perfect for providing a big-event, sports style feel.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 10, 2019 18:02:45 GMT -5
I wonder what people would think about AEW picking up Tony Schiavone to do some broadcast work? There would obviously be people shitting on them, using the old "WCW guys" argument, but I'll be damned if his voice isn't perfect for providing a big-event, sports style feel. Sadly, Tony's rep is cemented from his "I Give Up" days in the latter WCW. Tony, when he's on his game and giving a shit, and more importantly, doesn't have Eric Bischoff telling him stupid shit to say, is one of the best commentators of all time. I wouldn't be against it.
EDIT: With the addendum that there should be a third man in the booth. Tony's the face hype man, you need a color guy, and then a more serious play-by-play man who actually knows what the moves are called, because that WAS a big weakness of Tony's in the 90's.
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Post by Hickster on Feb 10, 2019 18:08:43 GMT -5
I just want it to be a viable alternative for talent. I've enjoyed some pretty crappy wrestling in my 42 year on this planet, and I'll definitely watch AEW.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2019 18:12:49 GMT -5
I wonder what people would think about AEW picking up Tony Schiavone to do some broadcast work? There would obviously be people shitting on them, using the old "WCW guys" argument, but I'll be damned if his voice isn't perfect for providing a big-event, sports style feel. I certainly wouldn't mind, provided he had energy, would do some homework on the talent, and just overall was going to put in the effort. He, or any other play by play guy, does that, then I will be happy. Wonder if Colt Cabana might want to do some commentary. That wouldn't be a dreadful option, either.
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