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Post by Porky's Butthole on Feb 9, 2019 17:55:19 GMT -5
All Imma say is that this is a good thing. You don't want Mark Henry to be angry with you. Hell, I met the man at an autograph signing and all he did was shake my hand..
....dislocated my elbow.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 9, 2019 18:05:31 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are.
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Post by sportatorium on Feb 9, 2019 18:13:12 GMT -5
The tardiness jumped out to me as Henry helped Braun Strowman get to WWE. I would imagine that must have bothered him when the stories about Braun being late emerged. He probably started looking into things & realized there was a problem. I don’t think WWE would endorse him getting physical with anyone, but if part of the problem is guys refusing to be professional & potential physical confrontations are emerging, I can’t imagine anyone wanting to get into it with Mark.
If there is a problem and this is a good solution, then hope it works out.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 9, 2019 18:16:18 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. The issue is people dont believing that is what he is there for. Or if it is needed for him to do it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5
I see no problem with this
Mark is essentially just going police the locker room and be a veteran presence. You shouldn't have to tell a grown ass man or woman to pick up their shit and he most likely won't but that individual will be seeing a fine in their check X, Y, and Z and they will learn to clean up their shit that way
That's what he meant by he don't care if they will call him a stooge. He's not going really tell them what to do, he's just going keep his eyes open and if he sees someone coming late and they see a reduction on their check they going to know Mark told Vince
I see nothing wrong with this whatsoever. It's not hazing, it's acting like adults
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Feb 9, 2019 19:05:35 GMT -5
Can you imagine Mark Henry being pissed at you? That shit would be terrifying, especially because he's generally one of the nicest dudes around. "Hey guys! What's goi..." ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2019 19:12:51 GMT -5
The tardiness jumped out to me as Henry helped Braun Strowman get to WWE. I would imagine that must have bothered him when the stories about Braun being late emerged. I could buy that, like how Tony Atlas being paired with Mark Henry was apparently intended to give Mark someone to travel with who could help him keep in shape, or how Undertaker took Big Show under his wing to try to teach him the professionalism he never learned, given WCW mostly had veterans and he was under Hogan's aegis, so he never really learned any of the stuff he'd have learned traveling with younger guys, or needing to handle his own stuff.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2019 19:19:44 GMT -5
Can you imagine Mark Henry being pissed at you? That shit would be terrifying, especially because he's generally one of the nicest dudes around. "Hey guys! What's goi..." ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Lockeroom: Mark, how did you grow your hair back?
Mark: That's how pissed off I am
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 9, 2019 19:20:41 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. There's just such a history of wrestling locker room etiquette being a toxic mess, and the "we need to make sure the rookies respect the business" mentality being used as an excuse for bullying and exploitation, that even though everything Mark says here sounds nice, the idea of the current roster needing a veteran to whip them into shape sets off warning bells. We saw it when all the crap with Bill DeMott came out (and plenty of respected wrestling personalities like Jericho and JR were leaping to his defense), the bullying was just the cherry on top; WWE likes the "old school" wrestler attitude and wants to perpetuate it (and bury any complaints against it) because it can be used to pressure their talent to work through injuries, to not expect health care, and certainly not to unionize. Considering the current state WWE's in, particularly when their emerging competitor is making baby steps towards challenging those mores, it really doesn't surprise me that Vince's response would be to look for more ways to tighten the screws.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 9, 2019 19:27:28 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. There's just such a history of wrestling locker room etiquette being a toxic mess, and the "we need to make sure the rookies respect the business" mentality being used as an excuse for bullying and exploitation, that even though everything Mark says here sounds nice, the idea of the current roster needing a veteran to whip them into shape sets off warning bells. We saw it when all the crap with Bill DeMott came out (and plenty of respected wrestling personalities like Jericho and JR were leaping to his defense), the bullying was just the cherry on top; WWE likes the "old school" wrestler attitude and wants to perpetuate it (and bury any complaints against it) because it can be used to pressure their talent to work through injuries, to not expect health care, and certainly not to unionize. Considering the current state WWE's in, particularly when their emerging competitor is making baby steps towards challenging those mores, it really doesn't surprise me that Vince's response would be to look for more ways to tighten the screws. Well, frankly, none of us are in a position to have to decide. I really don’t know what people think a locker room is like, but if you think you’re gonna stick a pile of people together and a hierarchy isn’t going to emerge and it’s just gonna be video games and giggles until the end of time, you’re so sadly mistaken.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:40:10 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. There's just such a history of wrestling locker room etiquette being a toxic mess, and the "we need to make sure the rookies respect the business" mentality being used as an excuse for bullying and exploitation, that even though everything Mark says here sounds nice, the idea of the current roster needing a veteran to whip them into shape sets off warning bells. We saw it when all the crap with Bill DeMott came out (and plenty of respected wrestling personalities like Jericho and JR were leaping to his defense), the bullying was just the cherry on top; WWE likes the "old school" wrestler attitude and wants to perpetuate it (and bury any complaints against it) because it can be used to pressure their talent to work through injuries, to not expect health care, and certainly not to unionize. Considering the current state WWE's in, particularly when their emerging competitor is making baby steps towards challenging those mores, it really doesn't surprise me that Vince's response would be to look for more ways to tighten the screws.
The thing with the Bill DeMott situation is that I don't recall any fan acting like what he was doing was unheard of. We've heard of his attitude for years, we've heard of some stories, we knew what kind of person he was even when he was the guy at the PC before the floodgates broke about him. With Mark Henry though, every story we've heard about him from these past 20 years seem to be far different from the Bill DeMott stories. Henry's always been one of the nicest guys to not only come from that era but one of the nicest wrestlers that have debuted these past 25 years.
Yeah he's a wrestler and there's been issues with the locker room in the past, at the same time that doesn't mean that people being worried that he's going to suddenly be like a lot of the others makes any sense especially given his history. That's saying that everything we've seen and heard about him these past 25 years doesn't mean a thing compared to how everyone else acts and everything else others have done. That's like saying "oh hey, KN is a wrestling fan so he's exactly like all of the other wrestling fans who harass women and other superstars in airports." Nah, that's not true. Just because others do it and just because I'm a wrestling fan doesn't mean that warning bells need to be set off.
That's actually the whole point of Henry doing this. To this day he's still trying to change the perception of wrestlers given you're immediately worried about this.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 9, 2019 19:56:43 GMT -5
Where’s Cody Rhodes’ tweet about how AEW lockerrooms are allowed to be complete and literal trash dumps.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:03:19 GMT -5
I don’t know what it is about Mark Henry but the dudes always rubbed me the wrong way.
I seem to always roll my eyes at his opinions and interviews. Like the dude is stuck in the old days when guys had to be TUFF and he’s somebody who feels the need to keep “everyone in check”... like who does he think he is. He was a jobber for the majority of his career bar one “Thank You” run.
I don’t hate the guy or anything. He’s just one of those guys I’d hate to have around backstage. He strikes me as one of those guys that thinks he owns the place and intimidates everyone to the point where they can’t have banter or fun.
On top of that, he was a shite wrestler to boot. Even for a big guy. My biggest gripe with him came from that whole segment where Daniel Bryan chants invaded the whole Orton/Cena confrontation. He told the crowd to cut it out. That wasn’t the character doing that. That was the guy. I never liked him after that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 20:05:56 GMT -5
Where’s Cody Rhodes’ tweet about how AEW lockerrooms are allowed to be complete and literal trash dumps. More like "In AEW wrestlers will pick up their own litter and will leave each arena in as great of condition as it were in when they arrived. That is the AEW way." - Cody Rhodes "See, WWE needs to do what AEW is doing!!!" - IWC
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2019 21:33:17 GMT -5
I don’t know what it is about Mark Henry but the dudes always rubbed me the wrong way. I seem to always roll my eyes at his opinions and interviews. Like the dude is stuck in the old days when guys had to be TUFF and he’s somebody who feels the need to keep “everyone in check”... like who does he think he is. He was a jobber for the majority of his career bar one “Thank You” run. I don’t hate the guy or anything. He’s just one of those guys I’d hate to have around backstage. He strikes me as one of those guys that thinks he owns the place and intimidates everyone to the point where they can’t have banter or fun. On top of that, he was a shite wrestler to boot. Even for a big guy. My biggest gripe with him came from that whole segment where Daniel Bryan chants invaded the whole Orton/Cena confrontation. He told the crowd to cut it out. That wasn’t the character doing that. That was the guy. I never liked him after that. What does being a shit wrestler have to do with his attitude and him wanting to hold people accountable ?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 9, 2019 21:42:44 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. For me, it's mostly the layers of bullshit it's all wrapped in. Instead of just helping hr have the resources to lay out expected behavior, with clear rules everyone knows about, they have Henry come out and talk all intimidating like he's everyone's stern dad or something. I am also skeptical all this shit is really a problem the way he claims it is.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 9, 2019 21:46:01 GMT -5
You wouldn’t think having a presence there to ensure wrestlers arrive on time, respect the facility, each other and the rental car company would be a controversial issue, but here we are. For me, it's mostly the layers of bullshit it's all wrapped in. Instead of just helping hr have the resources to lay out expected behavior, with clear rules everyone knows about, they have Henry come out and talk all intimidating like he's everyone's stern dad or something. I am also skeptical all this shit is really a problem the way he claims it is. If you need HR to tell you to arrive on time, respect your co-workers and their SOs and to pick up your trash, you’re beyond f***ed.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2019 21:49:52 GMT -5
I don’t know what it is about Mark Henry but the dudes always rubbed me the wrong way. I seem to always roll my eyes at his opinions and interviews. Like the dude is stuck in the old days when guys had to be TUFF and he’s somebody who feels the need to keep “everyone in check”... like who does he think he is. He was a jobber for the majority of his career bar one “Thank You” run. I don’t hate the guy or anything. He’s just one of those guys I’d hate to have around backstage. He strikes me as one of those guys that thinks he owns the place and intimidates everyone to the point where they can’t have banter or fun. On top of that, he was a shite wrestler to boot. Even for a big guy. My biggest gripe with him came from that whole segment where Daniel Bryan chants invaded the whole Orton/Cena confrontation. He told the crowd to cut it out. That wasn’t the character doing that. That was the guy. I never liked him after that. What does being a shit wrestler have to do with his attitude and him wanting to hold people accountable ? A guy's been in the wrestling business since 1996, I can't see what wisdom he could possibly have to impart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 21:56:40 GMT -5
I don’t know what it is about Mark Henry but the dudes always rubbed me the wrong way. I seem to always roll my eyes at his opinions and interviews. Like the dude is stuck in the old days when guys had to be TUFF and he’s somebody who feels the need to keep “everyone in check”... like who does he think he is. He was a jobber for the majority of his career bar one “Thank You” run. I don’t hate the guy or anything. He’s just one of those guys I’d hate to have around backstage. He strikes me as one of those guys that thinks he owns the place and intimidates everyone to the point where they can’t have banter or fun. On top of that, he was a shite wrestler to boot. Even for a big guy. My biggest gripe with him came from that whole segment where Daniel Bryan chants invaded the whole Orton/Cena confrontation. He told the crowd to cut it out. That wasn’t the character doing that. That was the guy. I never liked him after that. What does being a shit wrestler have to do with his attitude and him wanting to hold people accountable ? Nothing. It just adds to my dislike for the guy. If I enjoyed his matches, I could maybe look past his martyr complex. Mark Henry strikes me as one of those guys that wouldn’t shake your hand on the first day. you’d have to “impress him” and “gain his respect”... guys like that are the worst.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2019 21:58:39 GMT -5
What does being a shit wrestler have to do with his attitude and him wanting to hold people accountable ? Nothing. It just adds to my dislike for the guy. If I enjoyed his matches, I could maybe look past his martyr complex. Mark Henry is one of those guys that wouldn’t shake your hand on the first days you’d have to “impress him” and “gain his respect”... guys like that are the worst. Martyr? Lol I swear y’all always find something to gripe about There is really a complaint about a man saying listen y’all can’t show up late to work anymore and leaving the locker room dirty
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