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Post by Starshine on Feb 13, 2019 16:00:52 GMT -5
I still just can't get past the thought of New Japan fans getting upset over a shock title win when following an extended excursion this guy became their world champion one month later following this match. Is it just a lack of awareness? That first Rainmaker is just ass. It never fails to crack me up. Also I've read before that some hold the belief that Gedo had him shit the bed on a lower card match at WK so that it would create a bigger reaction than if he had come on and had a MOTN candidate. Take that for what you will but if it's true that's genius. That’s really clever, and for that reason I don’t believe it. Not because I don’t think they had the foresight to do something like this. But it’s such a clever move that if they had, I feel like they would have clearly made it an integral part of the story. As it is, Okada challenges Tana, champ says he hasn’t done anything to earn it. Tana is taken out by the Rainmaker move leading into the title match, and falls to it again to lose the belt. It doesn’t really seem to work into the idea that Okada was dogging things, if he’s beating Tana in the build up. I think they rebuilt their image of what the rainmaker was: initially he’s a punk kid with a delusion of grandeur. Then he backs his words up, and soon after the purple hair is gone, and he’s dressing to the nines. I just suspect that them rushing him to the belt meant they had to adapt the character on the fly instead of during the build up when you’d normally expect. It’s such an interesting booking decision. I’d love to read a book by Okada or Gedo explaining how it all came to be.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 14, 2019 16:32:08 GMT -5
But that really hasn't been his character at all. He's an egotistical jerk who wants to disrupt the entire company and its existing structures not for any grand vision or anything, but just so it suits his own selfish ends. I feel like if he was an edgelord his character would be all about some grand design, or some Dark Knight Joker-esque "wants to watch the world burn" motivation, but nope, he just wants power, money, and prestige and wants it as quickly and easily as he can get it. Basically his character is "I'm going to tear this place apart...because I'm a dick."I really, really wish some wrestler would word-for-word make this a catchphrase. It is basically Anderson's "Asshole" gimmick, but a lot funnier.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Feb 15, 2019 15:16:02 GMT -5
Trivia time: Jay White is the 10th man (not counting first champion Inoki) to win the IWGP Heavyweight Title in his first attempt alongside: Tatsumi Fujinami, Salman Hashimikov, Kazuyuki Fujita, Tadao Yasuda, Shinsuke Nakamura, Bob Sapp, Brock Lesnar, Kazuchika Okada, and AJ Styles.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 17, 2019 5:19:07 GMT -5
If Jay White retains at Madison Square Garden, they need to do a White vs. Minoru Suzuki feud. We've already got preview pics with White and Suzuki sparring:
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Post by BitterAF on Feb 17, 2019 7:58:35 GMT -5
Watched yesterday morning. Happy with the move and understand why you would want an English speaking champion at MSG. I read before Omega left that White would take over Omegas spot, so guessing Omega would not have lost had he stayed. As like others, I don't see this being a long reign, but gives more credibility to a guy who has improved leaps and bounds the past year. When this guy gets his seems run with the title, watch out,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 14:03:18 GMT -5
You build stars by giving them bricks, not by exposing their gaps. This is what NJPW has done successfully for7 years, that WWE and ROH haven’tt.
Genuinely excited to see what happens next.
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Post by Starshine on Feb 17, 2019 16:02:41 GMT -5
Watched yesterday morning. Happy with the move and understand why you would want an English speaking champion at MSG. I read before Omega left that White would take over Omegas spot, so guessing Omega would not have lost had he stayed. As like others, I don't see this being a long reign, but gives more credibility to a guy who has improved leaps and bounds the past year. When this guy gets his seems run with the title, watch out, Meltzer interviewed Omega recently, he said the original plan was for Omega to drop the belt to Okada at MSG. So that very much could still be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:36:09 GMT -5
Never heard of him.
Sounds like some realtor you would see on the side of a bus.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 17, 2019 21:03:45 GMT -5
Never heard of him. Sounds like some realtor you would see on the side of a bus. Do you watch NJPW?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 18, 2019 20:33:59 GMT -5
Man I am so behind on NJPW. Last thing I watched was the first show after the CMLL stuff and I skipped everything from Wrestle Kingdom to then to watch it.
I don’t know how I’ll ever catch up. I’ll just have to skip to the most recent show next time I get a chance or just give up and cancel my subscription.
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