|
Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 20, 2019 2:30:09 GMT -5
Why can’t Meltzer just admit that he no flipping idea what’s going on? Wait so when he says "There's no plans for Kofi" the Monday morning after a PPV, and then says "They've changed their minds on Fastlane since yesterday, Kofi will get a shot there" and then that's precisely what happens on the show, that's Meltzer not knowing anything? Man, some people have this weird fixation with proving to the world that Dave Meltzer is the worst and made of poop or that his news shouldn't be discussed around here, and it is weird.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 2:34:44 GMT -5
Meltzer's comments made sense. He said they didn't have any plans Monday morning, Tuesday morning then said "they have plans now and it's Kofi/Bryan at Fastlane" and then SDL set it up. I don't get what the big deal is. Makes perfect sense considering how this company always changes things.
|
|
MAGGLE
Dennis Stamp
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 4,511
|
Post by MAGGLE on Feb 20, 2019 2:37:29 GMT -5
Why can’t Meltzer just admit that he no flipping idea what’s going on? I told my friend of the way that Meltzer scams people, showed it to him, predicted the same shit Meltzer did...he is still subscribed. Lets be honest all of us could have written that report without talking to anyone in WWE. Also 99% of his stuff is opinion based and not actual news. Its always a speculation which turns into a scoop AFTER it becomes right.
|
|
|
Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 20, 2019 3:34:15 GMT -5
Meltzer's comments made sense. He said they didn't have any plans Monday morning, Tuesday morning then said "they have plans now and it's Kofi/Bryan at Fastlane" and then SDL set it up. I don't get what the big deal is. Makes perfect sense considering how this company always changes things. Like, we JUST had a week of 4 of the biggest NXT stars being brought up for no real rhyme and reason except “We want ratings but we don’t want to work for it” or something. I get the cynicism about Meltzer but plans changing on a daily and hourly basis shouldn’t be one of them because it’s true as hell and has been for about a decade plus.
|
|
|
Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 20, 2019 9:01:27 GMT -5
Meltzer's comments made sense. He said they didn't have any plans Monday morning, Tuesday morning then said "they have plans now and it's Kofi/Bryan at Fastlane" and then SDL set it up. I don't get what the big deal is. Makes perfect sense considering how this company always changes things. Like, we JUST had a week of 4 of the biggest NXT stars being brought up for no real rhyme and reason except “We want ratings but we don’t want to work for it” or something. I get the cynicism about Meltzer but plans changing on a daily and hourly basis shouldn’t be one of them because it’s true as hell and has been for about a decade plus. According to Meltzer, Vince got to the arena at 2pm Monday and they started re-writing the whole show. Hunter didn’t even know the 4 NXT guys were getting called up, and the show was still being re-written well into the second hour of Raw. The NXT callups are basically because Vince thinks ratings are down due to talent being stale. They’re in full blown “throw shit at the wall” mode right now
|
|
|
Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 20, 2019 9:55:46 GMT -5
Like, we JUST had a week of 4 of the biggest NXT stars being brought up for no real rhyme and reason except “We want ratings but we don’t want to work for it” or something. I get the cynicism about Meltzer but plans changing on a daily and hourly basis shouldn’t be one of them because it’s true as hell and has been for about a decade plus. According to Meltzer, Vince got to the arena at 2pm Monday and they started re-writing the whole show. Hunter didn’t even know the 4 NXT guys were getting called up, and the show was still being re-written well into the second hour of Raw. The NXT callups are basically because Vince thinks ratings are down due to talent being stale. They’re in full blown “throw shit at the wall” mode right now That explains everything also ha ha f*** that's so bad it's infuriating. At what f***ign point do you consider the idea that the constant to all these ratings declines has been a creative environment where you rewrite the show well through hour two of it being LIVE ON THE AIR? I swear, they need to put Vince into a damn home already. Edit: How the absolute f*** does some unadvertised appearances by NXT talent even change the ratings slump? What does any of this mean?
|
|
|
Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 20, 2019 10:25:02 GMT -5
According to Meltzer, Vince got to the arena at 2pm Monday and they started re-writing the whole show. Hunter didn’t even know the 4 NXT guys were getting called up, and the show was still being re-written well into the second hour of Raw. The NXT callups are basically because Vince thinks ratings are down due to talent being stale. They’re in full blown “throw shit at the wall” mode right now That explains everything also ha ha f*** that's so bad it's infuriating. At what f***ign point do you consider the idea that the constant to all these ratings declines has been a creative environment where you rewrite the show well through hour two of it being LIVE ON THE AIR? I swear, they need to put Vince into a damn home already. Edit: How the absolute f*** does some unadvertised appearances by NXT talent even change the ratings slump? What does any of this mean? I think Vince is so arrogant he doesn’t really make contingency plans. Part of the reason Raw had to be re-written is Seth was all over the show and he’s not cleared to wrestle. They wrote an entire show LAST WEEK based around a guy that wasn’t cleared to wrestle and weren’t sure if he would be cleared by Monday, and didn’t have a back up plan ready to go. That’s insane. That’s planning for failure.
|
|
|
Post by theironyuppie on Feb 20, 2019 11:48:26 GMT -5
Vince: What does the future hold for WWE? [ Chuckles ] Let's just say we've got a few ideas up our sleeve. Meltzer: Like what? Vince: Uh-- I'd rather not get into it right now. Meltzer: Why not? Vince: All right. We don't have any ideas for the future. - We got nothing. Happy? Meltzer: No.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 15:51:38 GMT -5
According to Wrestlevotes, he did some asking and the Bryan/Owens WM comments are true. However nothing is set in stone. One of his sources said based on Kofi's momentum Kofi/Bryan at WM could happen at WM instead of Bryan/Owens.
Basically, if Kofi's momentum keeps up we'll see that WM match. If it doesn't then we're seeing Owens/Bryan at WM.
Keep rooting for Kofi. We'll see how long this lasts because the more people behind him, the higher chance he's becoming champion. This is dope because that's actually the company listening to the fans. If they wanted to see if the Kofi love is real then they'd keep hearing the fans out before pulling the trigger. That's smart.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 15:53:32 GMT -5
According to Wrestlevotes, he did some asking and the Bryan/Owens WM comments are true. However nothing is set in stone. One of his sources said based on Kofi's momentum Kofi/Bryan at WM could happen in the end. Basically, if Kofi's momentum keeps up we'll see that WM match. If it doesn't then we're seeing Owens/Bryan at WM. Keep rooting for Kofi. Here's hoping, if only because this Owens thing sounds dire. Both from the basic story itself since it's obviously going to be, "Blue collar everyman shuts up those annoying hippies," nonsense to the idea of throwing Owens the belt again when his last reign was garbage and he basically completely stopped trying the second he won it and never started doing so again.
|
|
Gus Richlen: Ruffian
Patti Mayonnaise
Metal Maestro: Co-winner of the FAN Idol Throwdown!
BAU BAU
Posts: 39,091
|
Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Feb 21, 2019 15:58:49 GMT -5
According to Wrestlevotes, he did some asking and the Bryan/Owens WM comments are true. However nothing is set in stone. One of his sources said based on Kofi's momentum Kofi/Bryan at WM could happen at WM instead of Bryan/Owens. Basically, if Kofi's momentum keeps up we'll see that WM match. If it doesn't then we're seeing Owens/Bryan at WM. Keep rooting for Kofi. We'll see how long this lasts because the more people behind him, the higher chance he's becoming champion. This is dope because that's actually the company listening to the fans. If they wanted to see if the Kofi love is real then they'd keep hearing the fans out before pulling the trigger. That's smart. I have a feeling that regardless of opponent, Bryan is dropping the belt at WM. But as much as I love Owens, it HAS to be Kofi. And unless something changes, I believe that it WILL be.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:00:52 GMT -5
According to Wrestlevotes, he did some asking and the Bryan/Owens WM comments are true. However nothing is set in stone. One of his sources said based on Kofi's momentum Kofi/Bryan at WM could happen in the end. Basically, if Kofi's momentum keeps up we'll see that WM match. If it doesn't then we're seeing Owens/Bryan at WM. Keep rooting for Kofi. Here's hoping, if only because this Owens thing sounds dire. Both from the basic story itself since it's obviously going to be, "Blue collar everyman shuts up those annoying hippies," nonsense to the idea of throwing Owens the belt again when his last reign was garbage and he basically completely stopped trying the second he won it and never started doing so again. Yeah I've got no problem with Owens but he faced Bryan at last year's WM in that tag match and well, that sounds like a good return program for Owens. A Bryan who's lost the belt being challenged by KO just sounds like a nice program rather than it being for a title. Him randomly thrown in here for a return just doesn't feel like a good build. They can build off KO's return until he reaches the point to where he gets the title again around Summerslam or something. I actually wouldn't be against Kofi and New Day eventually going heel just to see heel Kofi against babyface KO. They can do a lot with it. I think he'll do better as a face and as a returning superstar but just not slotted in this position especially after being gone for all this time. According to Wrestlevotes, he did some asking and the Bryan/Owens WM comments are true. However nothing is set in stone. One of his sources said based on Kofi's momentum Kofi/Bryan at WM could happen at WM instead of Bryan/Owens. Basically, if Kofi's momentum keeps up we'll see that WM match. If it doesn't then we're seeing Owens/Bryan at WM. Keep rooting for Kofi. We'll see how long this lasts because the more people behind him, the higher chance he's becoming champion. This is dope because that's actually the company listening to the fans. If they wanted to see if the Kofi love is real then they'd keep hearing the fans out before pulling the trigger. That's smart. I have a feeling that regardless of opponent, Bryan is dropping the belt at WM. But as much as I love Owens, it HAS to be Kofi. And unless something changes, I believe that it WILL be. Yeah Bryan's not making it past WM with that title. It'll be a nice run for him when it's all said and done but it's just a matter of who his opponent will be.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:01:58 GMT -5
Another thing that makes this Owens thing stupid is it completely undercuts the entire gimmick just by doing it. "Villain regains his love of wrestling for its own sake and comes back as an underdog fighting for his family... straight into an immediate WWE title match at WrestleMania." It's dumb.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:05:15 GMT -5
The only thing on Owens' mind when he returns should be kicking Lashley and Lio's asses. I mean come on.
Needs to be Kofi/Bryan.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:06:44 GMT -5
Yeah Bryan's not making it past WM with that title. It'll be a nice run for him when it's all said and done but it's just a matter of who his opponent will be. I really think it's completely obvious Bryan's moving to Raw post-draft. If only because he's essentially the only credible heel in the company and one of the few fresh matches Seth has available.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:14:47 GMT -5
Another thing that makes this Owens thing stupid is it completely undercuts the entire gimmick just by doing it. "Villain regains his love of wrestling for its own sake and comes back as an underdog fighting for his family... straight into an immediate WWE title match at WrestleMania." It's dumb. Didn't think about that, wow that's accurate. From a storyline standpoint he needs to reach a point to where the love of fighting for his family gives him one of those "ok, now you've done it, you've screwed with me long enough and NOW you're going to get it AND now I'll get the title" moments. He shouldn't immediately get in a title picture. From that point all you can do is be a defending champion compared to working up to it. There's more legs in the chase, the win and defense compared to without the chase. I really think it's completely obvious Bryan's moving to Raw post-draft. If only because he's essentially the only credible heel in the company and one of the few fresh matches Seth has available. Yeah I can see that happening. At the same time I can still see at least 1 Owens and Bryan match before the jump depending on what brand Owens goes on. It makes sense if KO stays on Raw so yeah. KO goes back to Raw and faces Bryan, Lashley and all these others compared to SDL. Makes sense.
|
|