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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 20, 2019 11:53:48 GMT -5
Please get Asuka back on NXT so that she can work with Sane and Shirai if she's just going to be an afterthought on the main roster from here on out.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Feb 20, 2019 11:53:51 GMT -5
I love the gimmick but the handful of times I’ve seen her in the ring have been kinda tough. Not expecting her to be great, but she’s been doing this five years and looks like she’s training for Tough Enough
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 11:54:11 GMT -5
Could someone give me some background on her past history they are talking about, please. She was in the military and was or is a single mom so they think people can relate to her. Assuming they think with all the kids that watch a lot of their moms can relate with her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:54:29 GMT -5
We live in the most diverse time in American History and Vince refuses to push minorities. Sasha Banks, Asuka, Ember Moon, etc deserve better. This company is racist and I don’t see how you can disprove that statement. Asuka, Ember, Bianca (still needs more time but SHOULD be a big time star if they handle her right) and Kairi Sane would all be great choices to build around.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 20, 2019 11:55:11 GMT -5
Sorry Asuka, you're over as f*** and a great wrestler, but you aren't white so f*** off. Vince is never going to roll with a person that doesn't speak fluent English as a constant on top because of all the media. It's just how he is. I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 11:55:44 GMT -5
Vince is never going to roll with a person that doesn't speak fluent English as a constant on top because of all the media. It's just how he is. I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid. Well we all know how important look has always been to Vince. And that isn't just with women either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:57:10 GMT -5
Could someone give me some background on her past history they are talking about, please. She was in the military and was or is a single mom so they think people can relate to her. Assuming they think with all the kids that watch a lot of their moms can relate with her. Family history of drug addiction too (her father died of an OD and she helped her brother get clean IIRC). I completely understand why they'd do it because she has a great story, but she's just not ready yet.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 20, 2019 11:57:33 GMT -5
We live in the most diverse time in American History and Vince refuses to push minorities. Sasha Banks, Asuka, Ember Moon, etc deserve better. This company is racist and I don’t see how you can disprove that statement. Asuka, Ember, Bianca (still needs more time but SHOULD be a big time star if they handle her right) and Kairi Sane would all be great choices to build around. disagree with Ember ,she is bland and all over the place at same time
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 11:58:31 GMT -5
She was in the military and was or is a single mom so they think people can relate to her. Assuming they think with all the kids that watch a lot of their moms can relate with her. Family history of drug addiction too (her father died of an OD and she helped her brother get clean IIRC). I completely understand why they'd do it because she has a great story, but she's just not ready yet. Yea for this time in the company it probably doesn't end well...there was a time that they would push guys who couldn't work for stories or character, now it's the opposite even for women. Both strategies have their ups and downs.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 20, 2019 11:59:34 GMT -5
Mandy is right there damnit! Loads better in the ring (and getting better over time), better on the mic, and is slowly getting established (especially after last night).
The other two are a no brainer but no Asuka in there is just dumb. Personally I'd go with a Big 4 of Becky, Charlotte, Asuka, and Shayna when she comes up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:00:12 GMT -5
With the Roman and now Lacey thing, if it wasn't known before it's known now. Vince pushes people based on their character and who they are as people compared to push thing them for what they do in the ring and on the screen.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Feb 20, 2019 12:04:25 GMT -5
Not sure why being a single mother is criteria for a push.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 20, 2019 12:05:24 GMT -5
With the Roman and now Lacey thing, if it wasn't known before it's known now. Vince pushes people based on their character and who they are as people compared to push thing them for what they do in the ring and on the screen. And they don’t even push those aspect on TV. Like, I guarantee you none of the stuff about Lacey will ever be mentioned on TV because it’s what Vince likes and not what makes the person marketable to everyone else.
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 20, 2019 12:07:51 GMT -5
Not sure why being a single mother is criteria for a push. The idea is she will be a great representation of the WWE and a strong person to put on those interviews with local tv stations to get interest in the house shows.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Feb 20, 2019 12:08:09 GMT -5
Me: 'Lacey...Lacey, that name sounds so familiar, who could he be talking about? Is that...no, he couldn't possibly mean her'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:09:51 GMT -5
With the Roman and now Lacey thing, if it wasn't known before it's known now. Vince pushes people based on their character and who they are as people compared to push thing them for what they do in the ring and on the screen. And they don’t even push those aspect on TV. Like, I guarantee you none of the stuff about Lacey will ever be mentioned on TV because it’s what Vince likes and not what makes the person marketable to everyone else. Yep. Those are the things you'll only hear in documentaries. I bet most of the crowd didn't even know about Alexa's health issues until she brought it up again years well into her career.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:11:19 GMT -5
BCLOL
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 20, 2019 12:13:31 GMT -5
Also I don't think Vince is as invested in the women's product compared to the men side so I am sure this is a more fluid situation for him. He might like Lacy but 3 weeks later he decides Kairi Sane should get pushed and then he changes his mind later.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 12:16:32 GMT -5
Asuka is also the oldest woman in the division other than Tamina..sometimes that isn't realized I think.
And to add on a lot of dipshit fans don't help either that anytime someone who doesn't speak completely fluent english talks the crowd will what the shit out of them, it's been done to Asuka and Nak both quite a bit.
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Post by Talent Name on Feb 20, 2019 12:18:13 GMT -5
There always is Liv cause Liv is Life
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