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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:23:05 GMT -5
If WWE needs to have an attractive blonde as the third pillar of their women's division, why not Alexa, who's already established, can talk, and sells a ton of merch? Why not Mandy, who's improving in pretty much every way on a near-weekly basis? Toni Storm is a quality wrestler and is young as hell, Rhea Ripley looks like she could tear apart most of the roster with her bare hands, even Liv Morgan is improving pretty quickly...there are so, so many better options than Lacey goddamn Evans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:23:38 GMT -5
Asuka is also the oldest woman in the division other than Tamina..sometimes that isn't realized I think. And to add on a lot of dipshit fans don't help either that anytime someone who doesn't speak completely fluent english talks the crowd will what the shit out of them, it's been done to Asuka and Nak both quite a bit. It happened last night.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:26:49 GMT -5
If WWE needs to have an attractive blonde as the third pillar of their women's division, why not Alexa, who's already established, can talk, and sells a ton of merch? Why not Mandy, who's improving in pretty much every way on a near-weekly basis? Toni Storm is a quality wrestler and is young as hell, Rhea Ripley looks like she could tear apart most of the roster with her bare hands, even Liv Morgan is improving pretty quickly...there are so, so many better options than Lacey goddamn Evans. Alexa's injured a bit lately, they had this talk show role for her in case she couldn't be cleared so that's soured them on her. I mean Ronda was scheduled to squash Alexa last night before the changes hit. Mandy's improving but she's not there yet and she's seen as Sonya's bff so she's not ready, she's still early. Liv is dope but she's just Ruby's little sister.
Toni and Rhea would both fit.
But the thing is...Vince doesn't watch NXT. He just asked for NXT's four best, he didn't say them by name. I'm 99.9% he hasn't seen Toni or Rhea's skills and potential yet. Guaranteed once Vince finds out about them they'll have superpushes as well.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 20, 2019 12:27:28 GMT -5
BCL? Bacon, Cheese & Lettuce?
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Post by Mecca on Feb 20, 2019 12:29:34 GMT -5
Asuka is also the oldest woman in the division other than Tamina..sometimes that isn't realized I think. And to add on a lot of dipshit fans don't help either that anytime someone who doesn't speak completely fluent english talks the crowd will what the shit out of them, it's been done to Asuka and Nak both quite a bit. It happened last night. As long as this fan base never gets out of doing that, foreign wrestlers will have issues being given top spots. The WWE already has concern about them doing all the media that comes with it but if they think the fan base is going to shit on their promo skills yea... As much as I love Austin, I hate him for that, it gave a section of morons the ability to f*** up things up so easily.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:30:10 GMT -5
If WWE needs to have an attractive blonde as the third pillar of their women's division, why not Alexa, who's already established, can talk, and sells a ton of merch? Why not Mandy, who's improving in pretty much every way on a near-weekly basis? Toni Storm is a quality wrestler and is young as hell, Rhea Ripley looks like she could tear apart most of the roster with her bare hands, even Liv Morgan is improving pretty quickly...there are so, so many better options than Lacey goddamn Evans. Alexa's injured a bit lately, they had this talk show role for her in case she couldn't be cleared so that's soured them on her. I mean Ronda was scheduled to squash Alexa last night before the changes hit. Mandy's improving but she's not there yet and she's seen as Sonya's bff so she's not ready, she's still early. Liv is dope but she's just Ruby's little sister.
Toni and Rhea would both fit.
But the thing is...Vince doesn't watch NXT. He just asked for NXT's four best, he didn't say them by name. I'm 99.9% he hasn't seen Toni or Rhea's skills and potential yet. Guaranteed once Vince finds out about them they'll have superpushes as well.
Toni's an excellent wrestler and she's got dorky babyface charisma like Becky's. Only a matter of time.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 20, 2019 12:38:37 GMT -5
Vince is never going to roll with a person that doesn't speak fluent English as a constant on top because of all the media. It's just how he is. I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid. When you're the MASTER AND RULER OF THE WORLD, you don't need to know shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:39:59 GMT -5
I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid. When you're the MASTER AND RULER OF THE WORLD, you don't need to know shit. ...crybaby!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:40:38 GMT -5
As long as this fan base never gets out of doing that, foreign wrestlers will have issues being given top spots. The WWE already has concern about them doing all the media that comes with it but if they think the fan base is going to shit on their promo skills yea... As much as I love Austin, I hate him for that, it gave a section of morons the ability to f*** up things up so easily. Yeahe that's the worst thing Austin contributed. Vince is never going to roll with a person that doesn't speak fluent English as a constant on top because of all the media. It's just how he is. I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid. Rock changed all of that. Since him every top wrestler's gotta be able to speak well, do comedy when needed and do the circuits.
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 20, 2019 12:44:17 GMT -5
I think one problem with Lacey is that I have zero clue how her gimmick would ever draw any heat. How is someone supposed to react to it? It's the sort of thing that would be cult material on GLOW but not anyone who gets a serious WWE main roster push. I joked in a previous thread that I can already imagine her feuding with Asuka, trying to avenge Pearl Harbor. Asuka would just be bewildered by the whole thing.
I'd probably say Toni Storm would be a better pick as well, except I'm not sure if Vince would get the whole vaguely punk/metal aspect of her act.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 20, 2019 12:46:16 GMT -5
I have to say I did not think I would be saying this a year ago but I do agree, if they insist on pushing a blonde white woman as well as Charlotte, almost every one they have is a better choice.
Carmella has her critics but is quite over and has a definable gimmick.
Mandy is quickly becoming one to watch.
Alexa is over as f*** even if you hate her work.
Liv. Even Liv has more to offer.
Lana? Terrible wrestler but so over.
Lacey may be lacking overness partly due to being new, but that's part of why pushing her so soon is a poor choice. All of the above women have at least one thing she lacks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:49:00 GMT -5
I think one problem with Lacey is that I have zero clue how her gimmick would ever draw any heat. How is someone supposed to react to it? It's the sort of thing that would be cult material on GLOW but not anyone who gets a serious WWE main roster push. I joked in a previous thread that I can already imagine her feuding with Asuka, trying to avenge Pearl Harbor. Asuka would just be bewildered by the whole thing. I'd probably say Toni Storm would be a better pick as well, except I'm not sure if Vince would get the whole vaguely punk/metal aspect of her act. I think the one thing possibly holding Toni back is she's not a great promo. She's only 23 though and Paige ended up turning into a very good promo.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Feb 20, 2019 13:06:00 GMT -5
Lacey Evans was absolutely made in a lab by WWE and I refuse to believe otherwise.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 20, 2019 13:06:10 GMT -5
As long as this fan base never gets out of doing that, foreign wrestlers will have issues being given top spots. The WWE already has concern about them doing all the media that comes with it but if they think the fan base is going to shit on their promo skills yea... As much as I love Austin, I hate him for that, it gave a section of morons the ability to f*** up things up so easily. Yeahe that's the worst thing Austin contributed. I mean, he pushed Warrior and Sid. Rock changed all of that. Since him every top wrestler's gotta be able to speak well, do comedy when needed and do the circuits. Guys like The Rock & Bobby Heenan(plus a few others) convinced Vince that wrestlers can ALWAYS be more than just wrestlers.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 20, 2019 13:06:58 GMT -5
Lacey Evans was absolutely made in a lab by WWE and I refuse to believe otherwise. They finally fixed that clone machine that gave us Tom & Mike?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 20, 2019 13:08:42 GMT -5
I always love when Meltzer decides to put a wrestler in the crosshairs of his fanbase.
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Post by Shy Guy on Feb 20, 2019 13:08:43 GMT -5
Lacey is not a good idea at this point in time
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Post by sportatorium on Feb 20, 2019 13:13:54 GMT -5
Maybe Lacey should get a match on TV before becoming part of a “Big 3”.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 20, 2019 13:26:30 GMT -5
I think one problem with Lacey is that I have zero clue how her gimmick would ever draw any heat. How is someone supposed to react to it? It's the sort of thing that would be cult material on GLOW but not anyone who gets a serious WWE main roster push. I joked in a previous thread that I can already imagine her feuding with Asuka, trying to avenge Pearl Harbor. Asuka would just be bewildered by the whole thing. I'd probably say Toni Storm would be a better pick as well, except I'm not sure if Vince would get the whole vaguely punk/metal aspect of her act. I want to see Toni Storm get a good run in NXT, and develop as a performer even more, before she's thrown to the main roster wolves. Same goes for Rhea Ripley and Io Shirai. But Shayna and Kairi are the natural picks to come to the main roster, and both would offer a ton more than Lacey Evans does at the moment. Come to think of it, I'd have loved it if Kairi had been number one in the Rumble, and stayed in there for ages (although then we wouldn't have had Graves' line about running with telescopes, which was legit one of the funniest things he's ever said). But I think we can already predict that Kairi and Io Shirai will be a tag team, and they'll probably be lumped with Asuka in a faction, when they come up from NXT because... Japanese. Meanwhile, I'm thinking that a triple threat match between the three of them would be a sight to see.
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Post by Indiana Miz on Feb 20, 2019 13:49:20 GMT -5
Maybe he's only talking about the Raw women since I'm assuming all 3 will officially be on the roster by May.
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