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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:17:58 GMT -5
Do some of yall really think a fat guy can't kick your ass? Let alone an athletic one? I mean at least among the fans I chill with on Tumblr KO is called the Murder Bear. He looks like a teddy bear but could absolutely beat somebody's ass He looks like a regular guy you'd see at a bar where if you fought him he'd always beat your ass. |
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Post by Shai on Mar 6, 2019 21:22:54 GMT -5
I mean at least among the fans I chill with on Tumblr KO is called the Murder Bear. He looks like a teddy bear but could absolutely beat somebody's ass He looks like a regular guy you'd see at a bar where if you fought him he'd always beat your ass. Exactly. It's dumb but every time this subject comes up I think of I think it was Nash who said KO didn't look like he could get a girl and meanwhile Karina Steen is literally model gorgeous |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:24:52 GMT -5
He looks like a regular guy you'd see at a bar where if you fought him he'd always beat your ass. Exactly. It's dumb but every time this subject comes up I think of I think it was Nash who said KO didn't look like he could get a girl and meanwhile Karina Steen is literally model gorgeous Yep you're 100% accurate on that. Absolutely true. |
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Mar 6, 2019 21:58:52 GMT -5
It would help if his gear wasn’t so crappy.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 6, 2019 22:09:36 GMT -5
A lot of the "larger than life" dudes were jacked up on steroids and worked like garbage. Owens can talk and his look compliments what his act is and that means way more to me aesthetically than that he's half a foot taller and has defined pecs. So much of what was actually, genuinely memorable and iconic and great about the era everyone talks up with larger than life figures had little to do with the looks anyway; Roddy Piper talked his way to greatness, Flair didn't look like a Greek God when he had his legendary series with Steamboat, Randy and Elizabeth's reunion didn't rely on the size of his arms, just that Elizabeth was held up on them. It's not lack of muscles killing wrestling it's that people are presented like shit and the show is bad. Vince McMahon was a body mark who marketed a very specific look that wasn't the one and only of wrestling in the first place, and now body marks keep that tradition going. I guarantee my neighbor can't do the shit Owens is capable of doing in the ring, that's where that shit matters.
Last night he fought Erick Rowan, who wore a band t-shirt and jeans. Dressed like literally everyone at every folk metal concert I've been to who didn't show up dressed for a ren faire. The main difference between the two is really just in size and musculature. But Erick Rowan isn't drawing shit and his body isn't adding to the show. Get off that shit.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 6, 2019 22:11:39 GMT -5
A lot of the "larger than life" dudes were jacked up on steroids and worked like garbage. Owens can talk and his look compliments what his act is and that means way more to me aesthetically than that he's half a foot taller and has defined pecs. So much of what was actually, genuinely memorable and iconic and great about the era everyone talks up with larger than life figures had little to do with the looks anyway; Roddy Piper talked his way to greatness, Flair didn't look like a Greek God when he had his legendary series with Steamboat, Randy and Elizabeth's reunion didn't rely on the size of his arms, just that Elizabeth was held up on them. It's not lack of muscles killing wrestling it's that people are presented like shit and the show is bad. Vince McMahon was a body mark who marketed a very specific look that wasn't the one and only of wrestling in the first place, and now body marks keep that tradition going. I guarantee my neighbor can't do the shit Owens is capable of doing in the ring, that's where that shit matters. Last night he fought Erick Rowan, who wore a band t-shirt and jeans. Dressed like literally everyone at every folk metal concert I've been to who didn't show up dressed for a ren faire. The main difference between the two is really just in size and musculature. But Erick Rowan isn't drawing shit and his body isn't adding to the show. Get off that shit. I think I've said this about another one of your posts recently, but I wish I could like this shit 20 times. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:14:14 GMT -5
I really thought that we had gone away from body shaming these wrestlers but alas I was wrong. People really tried to get on Nia for her body but they covered it up by "she's a shitty worker and can't talk" but now we have a guy who's an amazing worker who can talk and he's getting shamed too?
Come on now.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 6, 2019 22:17:37 GMT -5
Also just to be clear I'm not shitting on Erick Rowan or his look, I'm glad there's a dude on the roster who openly dresses like he'll show up to the Turisas concert wearing a f***ing fox pelt, and since War Raiders have that exact aesthetic on lock, settling for looking like every other dude at the Turisas concert works too. But a diversity of those aesthetics is important on a big roster; it makes everyone more visually distinctive from each other and allows their looks to convey their personality. We need a spread of that shit, and more body guys won't fix anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:18:57 GMT -5
The weird "Kevin Owens is a little fat, ergo untalented" thing running through this thread is....troubling. But nah, dude's a legit main event player. Bray Wyatt is fat, Mick Foley is fat, a large portion of successful WWE stars were fat. But they also had gimmicks that made it work. KO just looks like a generic fat guy. Eh, Wyatt's gimmick worked in the beginning. Hasn't worked well in a long time, though. |
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Post by Shai on Mar 6, 2019 22:22:54 GMT -5
Plus in my opinion KO's body type just adds to his mystique, I guess you'd call it because when I first saw him I remember thinking how the f**k is this guy doing that?! When KO is motivated like he seems to be again right now he doesn't move like a guy of his size should be able to move and that's a huge plus in my book
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 6, 2019 22:58:41 GMT -5
A lot of the "larger than life" dudes were jacked up on steroids and worked like garbage. Owens can talk and his look compliments what his act is and that means way more to me aesthetically than that he's half a foot taller and has defined pecs. So much of what was actually, genuinely memorable and iconic and great about the era everyone talks up with larger than life figures had little to do with the looks anyway; Roddy Piper talked his way to greatness, Flair didn't look like a Greek God when he had his legendary series with Steamboat, Randy and Elizabeth's reunion didn't rely on the size of his arms, just that Elizabeth was held up on them. It's not lack of muscles killing wrestling it's that people are presented like shit and the show is bad. Vince McMahon was a body mark who marketed a very specific look that wasn't the one and only of wrestling in the first place, and now body marks keep that tradition going. I guarantee my neighbor can't do the shit Owens is capable of doing in the ring, that's where that shit matters. Last night he fought Erick Rowan, who wore a band t-shirt and jeans. Dressed like literally everyone at every folk metal concert I've been to who didn't show up dressed for a ren faire. The main difference between the two is really just in size and musculature. But Erick Rowan isn't drawing shit and his body isn't adding to the show. Get off that shit. Jake Roberts looked like some guy you'd see at Kroger, but he was scary as shit because he seemed unhinged and cold. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 6, 2019 23:02:48 GMT -5
He’s over and sells merchandise. Quite a bit more than you can say about most of the roster.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 6, 2019 23:26:44 GMT -5
Personally I'm a big fan. I dig him.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 6, 2019 23:58:44 GMT -5
A lot of the "larger than life" dudes were jacked up on steroids and worked like garbage. Owens can talk and his look compliments what his act is and that means way more to me aesthetically than that he's half a foot taller and has defined pecs. So much of what was actually, genuinely memorable and iconic and great about the era everyone talks up with larger than life figures had little to do with the looks anyway; Roddy Piper talked his way to greatness, Flair didn't look like a Greek God when he had his legendary series with Steamboat, Randy and Elizabeth's reunion didn't rely on the size of his arms, just that Elizabeth was held up on them. It's not lack of muscles killing wrestling it's that people are presented like shit and the show is bad. Vince McMahon was a body mark who marketed a very specific look that wasn't the one and only of wrestling in the first place, and now body marks keep that tradition going. I guarantee my neighbor can't do the shit Owens is capable of doing in the ring, that's where that shit matters. Last night he fought Erick Rowan, who wore a band t-shirt and jeans. Dressed like literally everyone at every folk metal concert I've been to who didn't show up dressed for a ren faire. The main difference between the two is really just in size and musculature. But Erick Rowan isn't drawing shit and his body isn't adding to the show. Get off that shit. Jake Roberts looked like some guy you'd see at Kroger, but he was scary as shit because he seemed unhinged and cold. "You don't want me to bag your groceries, because I'm cheap. Okay? I cheat. You want to bag honey buns? I got a bag of two. You wanna play aces with the eggs? I can do that too. When you walk into my Kroger and you shop, the main thing is you should realize this: you must accept losing an item. I don't accept losing. My co=worker Damien is right here! " Anyway, Kevin Owens main eventing Smackdown cards sounds like a great idea. Put him and Kofi in the mix. They're hella talented, and if you want to make someone come off like a main eventer, you gotta bite the bullet and eventually test them in their first main events. After Mahal's flop run, Owens is as good a choice as any. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 7, 2019 0:06:11 GMT -5
Imagine how crazy it would be for an overweight everyman who looks like he should be tiling pools for a living to be a top wrestling champion  |
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Mar 7, 2019 0:33:58 GMT -5
It's ok to think that, as long as you don't mind being wrong.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Mar 7, 2019 0:50:43 GMT -5
Owens is at his best when he is in contrast to someone who he is the opposite of in personality and look.
You put him in there with a John Cena or AJ Styles or Randy Orton or Cesaro or Roman or Seth, and you really have something like when he was on the indies and was opposite guys like Strong and Richards and Edwards.
Bryan isn't necessarily going to generate that out of him, but I still think the two could have good chemistry.
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Post by trollrogue on Mar 7, 2019 2:28:54 GMT -5
Owens has literally main evented every show he's been on. NXT, he debuted and in the same night after his debut win started a feud with the NXT Champ. Then he won the NXT Championship. Then he went on WWE RAW as the NXT Champion and beat the United States Champion John Cena clean. Then he won (in air-quotes) the WWE Universal Championship and held a Festival of Friendship as Jericho's last great segment in the WWE now that he's in Indy Land.
...Then he came on SDLive and headbutted Vince McMahon, which mentally affected Vince so much to this day that he felt compelled to put K.O. in the title match at Fastlane where K.O. might become the first person in WWE to be a Grand Slam Champion without winning a tag team title (he's got bot midcard titles, US and IC champs, plus Universal title, the WWE title would be the last piece).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 4:29:06 GMT -5
I'm actually really digging the face Owens vs. heel Bryan stuff, by the way. I'm on board with Kofi getting the belt at WM, but it's something I'd like to see them continue after WM even without it. Especially if they add a face Sami to the mix.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Mar 7, 2019 5:28:57 GMT -5
Do some of yall really think a fat guy can't kick your ass? Let alone an athletic one? Yeah that's exactly what I meant. I think butterbean is a huge wimp |
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