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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 18:19:25 GMT -5
Everyone is going on about looks but I believe the true question is not whether he looks like a main eventer (which is extremely varied in this day and age) but whether he feels like a main eventer. This can be then broken down into various things like looks, in-ring talent, character, gimmick, booking, etc.
Owens has struggled to keep me entertained during his last run. His in-ring work seemed to take a step back along with his booking and character which caused me to struggle to see him as a main eventer.
I think the whole "Jinder was a main eventer so everyone can be" thing is disingenuous and doesn't really answer the question as I doubt many of us would say Jinder felt like a main eventer while holding the title. Clearly the op isn't saying Owens cannot main event because he has so that would just be a plain lie. He's saying Owens doesn't feel like a main eventer which is his opinion and he's allowed to have it for whatever reasons they choose.
Owens does not feel like a main eventer to me. His comeback seemed really weird and he lost a lot of his shine during his last run that he will have to get back in my opinion. Owens when he debuted was absolutely a main eventer but I don't feel he is back at that same level yet. His character isn't as interesting and needs fleshing out and he doesn't have nearly as much momentum behind him as he did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 18:33:49 GMT -5
Owens being the authority backed champion was baffling. They don't like Bryan for his looks but Owens is their guy? I mean, to me the logical explanation there is what they really don't like about Bryan is how self-driven and organically beloved he is, and how he has a following that would go with him anywhere so he really doesn't need WWE at all, while Owens is a guy who freely admits he's only in it for the money and thus he can be controlled.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:44:33 GMT -5
A lot of the "larger than life" dudes were jacked up on steroids and worked like garbage. Owens can talk and his look compliments what his act is and that means way more to me aesthetically than that he's half a foot taller and has defined pecs. So much of what was actually, genuinely memorable and iconic and great about the era everyone talks up with larger than life figures had little to do with the looks anyway; Roddy Piper talked his way to greatness, Flair didn't look like a Greek God when he had his legendary series with Steamboat, Randy and Elizabeth's reunion didn't rely on the size of his arms, just that Elizabeth was held up on them. It's not lack of muscles killing wrestling it's that people are presented like shit and the show is bad. Vince McMahon was a body mark who marketed a very specific look that wasn't the one and only of wrestling in the first place, and now body marks keep that tradition going. I guarantee my neighbor can't do the shit Owens is capable of doing in the ring, that's where that shit matters. Last night he fought Erick Rowan, who wore a band t-shirt and jeans. Dressed like literally everyone at every folk metal concert I've been to who didn't show up dressed for a ren faire. The main difference between the two is really just in size and musculature. But Erick Rowan isn't drawing shit and his body isn't adding to the show. Get off that shit. Jake Roberts looked like some guy you'd see at Kroger, but he was scary as shit because he seemed unhinged and cold. ... so someone at Kroger's?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 7, 2019 19:47:51 GMT -5
Jake Roberts looked like some guy you'd see at Kroger, but he was scary as shit because he seemed unhinged and cold. ... so someone at Kroger's? It was the first comparison I thought of to be like 'somewhere you'd see an average looking dude'. Like if you didn't know who Jake was and passed him buying some delicious Chicken in a Biskit crackers, you wouldn't think "pro wrestler".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:53:20 GMT -5
... so someone at Kroger's? It was the first comparison I thought of to be like 'somewhere you'd see an average looking dude'. Like if you didn't know who Jake was and passed him buying some delicious Chicken in a Biskit crackers, you wouldn't think "pro wrestler". Haha. And I'm saying Everyone at Kroger's is cold and unhinged. But now I do want Chicken in a Bizkit crackers, i may brave the Kroger maniacs (Krogamaniacs?).
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 7, 2019 19:55:07 GMT -5
It was the first comparison I thought of to be like 'somewhere you'd see an average looking dude'. Like if you didn't know who Jake was and passed him buying some delicious Chicken in a Biskit crackers, you wouldn't think "pro wrestler". Haha. And I'm saying Everyone at Kroger's is cold and unhinged. But now I do want Chicken in a Bizkit crackers, i may brave the Kroger maniacs (Krogamaniacs?). Haha yeah I got your gag after the fact. I say go for it. Chicken in a Biskit are neither chicken not biscuit, but they're awesome.
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