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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:47:57 GMT -5
My issue's mostly with the irresponsibility of it. Yeah, it was basically just Meltzer being stupid and rambling about nothing, that's normal with him. But it's a pointless subject to even talk about, and kind of impossible to bring up without sounding accusatory with it in some way, and it's going to do nothing but fan the flames on already existing conspiracy theories.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 9, 2019 18:52:10 GMT -5
My issue's mostly with the irresponsibility of it. Yeah, it was basically just Meltzer being stupid and rambling about nothing, that's normal with him. But it's a pointless subject to even talk about, and kind of impossible to bring up without sounding accusatory with it in some way, and it's going to do nothing but fan the flames on already existing conspiracy theories. Right. Dave knows better and he still did this f*** shit.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 9, 2019 18:52:32 GMT -5
Wrestling is just getting f***ing exhausting and can it please stop You know what's sad that I realized the other week? I counted all the threads on the first page and over 3/4s of them dealt with backstage and social media commentary rather than the actual wrestling angles and on screen product. I think that's kind of just the world we live in now. The machines didn't have to build the Matrix, we did it to ourselves.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 9, 2019 18:53:32 GMT -5
My issue's mostly with the irresponsibility of it. Yeah, it was basically just Meltzer being stupid and rambling about nothing, that's normal with him. But it's a pointless subject to even talk about, and kind of impossible to bring up without sounding accusatory with it in some way, and it's going to do nothing but fan the flames on already existing conspiracy theories. Oh, no doubt. Like I've been saying, he can't control himself. It's not excusing it. It's just this is not some great big thing that we need to call him a scumbag, y'know? He gets on these things and he goes and goes and goes. On most topics, you can even hear Alvarez trying to get him back on track, but he just rambles until he can't think of anything else to say. It's kind of exhausting to listen to for a dude that has a weekly podcast, for sure.
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 9, 2019 19:01:01 GMT -5
It's a pretty major invasion of Roman's privacy to be speculating about the type of medication he was taking or how he refers to his treatment, no matter what particular nuances of the matter Meltzer was stumbling over. There's two issues I have here with Meltzer in an either/or situation.
1. It's completely reckless speculation and that's both completely unprofessional and unethical from a journalistic standpoint. I know "lol wrestling journalism" but Meltzer is considered by many to be the closest thing to a legitimate journalist in this carny-ass business and it behooves him to act in a responsible matter when it comes to things like this.
2. If Meltzer IS talking based on information he has on Roman's treatment plan or pills, that's a serious breach of privacy and the person who leaked it to him is in violation of the law (specifically HIPAA). In a worst case scenario, Meltzer can also face a civil suit or legal investigation for publishing leaked info.
Another hit from the guy who who compared “mark” to the n word lol Satin said that??? jesus I think he meant Meltzer said that, not Satin.
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Post by crowley1986 on Mar 9, 2019 19:05:11 GMT -5
It's a pretty major invasion of Roman's privacy to be speculating about the type of medication he was taking or how he refers to his treatment, no matter what particular nuances of the matter Meltzer was stumbling over. There's two issues I have here with Meltzer in an either/or situation.
1. It's completely reckless speculation and that's both completely unprofessional and unethical from a journalistic standpoint. I know "lol wrestling journalism" but Meltzer is considered by many to be the closest thing to a legitimate journalist in this carny-ass business and it behooves him to act in a responsible matter when it comes to things like this.
2. If Meltzer IS talking based on information he has on Roman's treatment plan or pills, that's a serious breach of privacy and the person who leaked it to him is in violation of the law (specifically HIPAA). In a worst case scenario, Meltzer can also face a civil suit or legal investigation for publishing leaked info.
Satin said that??? jesus I think he meant Meltzer said that, not Satin. Thanks for clarifying...moronic statement from anyone
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:07:14 GMT -5
It's a pretty major invasion of Roman's privacy to be speculating about the type of medication he was taking or how he refers to his treatment, no matter what particular nuances of the matter Meltzer was stumbling over. There's two issues I have here with Meltzer in an either/or situation. 1. It's completely reckless speculation and that's both completely unprofessional and unethical from a journalistic standpoint. I know "lol wrestling journalism" but Meltzer is considered by many to be the closest thing to a legitimate journalist in this carny-ass business and it behooves him to act in a responsible matter when it comes to things like this. 2. If Meltzer IS talking based on information he has on Roman's treatment plan or pills, that's a serious breach of privacy and the person who leaked it to him is in violation of the law (specifically HIPAA). In a worst case scenario, Meltzer can also face a civil suit or legal investigation for publishing leaked info.
Satin said that??? jesus I think he meant Meltzer said that, not Satin. What I got from what he said is that he didnt have legal information abotu his case,but simply used another similar one as a base,which is just flawed from many angles.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:08:24 GMT -5
My issue's mostly with the irresponsibility of it. Yeah, it was basically just Meltzer being stupid and rambling about nothing, that's normal with him. But it's a pointless subject to even talk about, and kind of impossible to bring up without sounding accusatory with it in some way, and it's going to do nothing but fan the flames on already existing conspiracy theories. There is just no reason to bring it up at all.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 9, 2019 19:09:06 GMT -5
For a guy that has made a career being a journalist, Meltzer has to be one of the most inarticulate speakers I've heard.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:09:42 GMT -5
For a guy that has made a career being a journalist, Meltzer has to be one of the most inarticulate speakers I've heard. I have met people that can't write for shit but speak very well and vice-versa. I don't read meltzer articles but I assume they are well made.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 9, 2019 19:09:56 GMT -5
Is it just me, or do the people who shit on Meltzer the most also seem to take his word the most seriously?
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:13:00 GMT -5
He just said he thought Roman was wrong, he never called him a lier. Instead of trying to be witty and failing you can just pin point the moment he called him to be a lier.I can be wrong and you can win that point. Meltzer is a mess of words,I can easily read something wrong,specially for a non-native speaker.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 9, 2019 19:13:07 GMT -5
I think Meltzer's big sin here is just mumble-talking out his ass on this one. I don't think he even meant to come across as "questioning Roman's treatment" in a salacious way so much as saying he thinks Roman wasn't being clear on specifics (which isn't his place to report on either and why we're having this convo I guess).
When you speak in a stream-of-consciousness way like Meltz does, shit sometimes comes out wonky. And he apologized, so regardless of anything else he realizes he did too much here.
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Post by honsou on Mar 9, 2019 19:13:57 GMT -5
I heard the audio, he never doubted the treatment. He said he got treated and just recovered much faster than usual.
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Post by 111111 on Mar 9, 2019 19:15:24 GMT -5
Serious question is Dave on the spectrum?
I have a relative who is and one of their speech patterns is that they use alot of "ums and ahs" exactly like Nwltzer and whenever I listen to clips from meltzers podcast everytime the other host cracks a joke it goes completely over his head.
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Post by clifford on Mar 9, 2019 19:16:26 GMT -5
Can Dave Meltzer as a thing just end?
Dude spends his day reporting vague as shit backstage 'stories' and arguing on Twitter about every single thing that's tweeted at him. 90% of people in the business can't stand him or lend him a shred of credibility, and the older he gets the more dumb and inappropriate the stuff he spouts off becomes.
I honestly don't know why anyone gives him the time of day anymore.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:16:48 GMT -5
I think Meltzer's big sin here is just mumble-talking out his ass on this one. I don't think he even meant to come across as "questioning Roman's treatment" in a salacious way so much as saying he thinks Roman wasn't being clear on specifics (which isn't his place to report on either and why we're having this convo I guess). When you speak in a stream-of-consciousness way like Meltz does, shit sometimes comes out wonky. And he apologized, so regardless of anything else he realizes he did too much here. I think everyone can agree it wasnt his place to talk about it. the questions become if he meant more than that, and even if he didnt,how much a dick move is it?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 9, 2019 19:17:08 GMT -5
Can we get a more accurate thread title so this doesn't escalate?
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Post by Dub H on Mar 9, 2019 19:18:51 GMT -5
Can we get a more accurate thread title so this doesn't escalate? Even if it is justto "Meltz doubts Roman's type of cancer treament".I feel like that is accurate enough without messing too much with OP's title.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 9, 2019 19:20:11 GMT -5
Cancer is still Cancer Meltz This shit will never leave Roman and he will be on the medication for the rest of his life To try to put a measurement of the "how serious was it" meter is f**ing stupid
Should have left it alone to talk out your ass like this is a topic to be discussed
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