ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on May 7, 2019 12:18:47 GMT -5
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Post by hbkid718 on May 7, 2019 12:25:19 GMT -5
I have always defended WWE and always try to find the positive in it, but not any more. Besides Kingston VS Bryan, this had to be one of the worst Raws of the year. Nothing makes sense, especially the Wild Card Rule. That's a horrible idea and defeats the purpose of Survivor Series. I'm not going to stop watching because I love wrestling too much. Doing my wins & losses and stats are the only thing that's keeping me into this. It's strange but by doing that, it's keeps me into everything. Thankfully, next week everything is taped since they're in England, so we will know if it sucks hours before we watch it. Also, I have said in the past that I think people that want to leave WWE are idiots for turning down guaranteed good money, but after seeing the humiliation that The Revival are being put through, I changed my mind. I'm with the wrestlers. I rather be happy and make no money or less money in other companies than not be happy when I'm supposed to be doing something that I love. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 7, 2019 12:30:10 GMT -5
Oh, no! A show featuring people who aren't stars?! Unacceptable! Why do you think WWE has so many heatless midcard wrestlers? I can't wait to hear "'cuz they didn't grab the brass ring" as a possible reason. That’s the thing... How the hell are talents who don’t have any heat supposed to even have a chance to GET it if they’re not being put on TV? (Those Colon cousins must have peak Austin levels of overness at this point) Even people on TV don't get reasons for us to care about them. I mean the War Raiders for instance they're great but why the hell would anyone care about them on the main roster? They come out with no hype, arent given jobber squashes to at least establish them as monster horses, not to mention a name change from what they were in NXT to one of the worst names in recent history, that they quickly backtrack on. So these unestablished guys go against the tag champs. The champs themselves who really haven't been used since winning and themselves are seen by most of the audience as jobbers since one has had so many start and stop pushes and the other literally just came off a year long losing streak. Anyway the Raiders do the usual 50/50 nonsense making it look like these hosses can't even destroy jobbers. The Major Edges still lost so it does nothing to remove the idea of them being jobbers, and you can't even say will it was them standing up to the big hosses cause the hosses weren't established.
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Post by KofiMania on May 7, 2019 12:53:59 GMT -5
While the rules are convoluted, I do like the fact that some top Smackdown stars will show up on Raw. It will help the 3 hours go by and be filled with actual stars. The biggest problem with Raw for me is usually there’s a 45 minute to an hour period where you get a bunch of matches/segments with heatless lower midcarders or jobber to the stars. Oh, no! A show featuring people who aren't stars?! Unacceptable! Why do you think WWE has so many heatless midcard wrestlers? I can't wait to hear "'cuz they didn't grab the brass ring" as a possible reason. I think a lot of the heatless wrestlers are just not that good, to be honest. I don’t want to watch Apollo Crews, the B Team, Baron Corbin (who has heat but I feel it’s more go-away heat), McIntyre, Lashley without Lio, Titus, Dana Brooke, Alicia Fox, Jinder Mahal, Hawkins/Ryder, Lucha House Party, Mojo, No Way Jose, Bobby Roode, Tamina, Sarah Logan and it’s not because of their booking . Sprinkling them here and there for short segments is okay but a lot of times we end up with a large chunk of time in the middle of the show featuring these types back to back to back and it kind of kills the show for me. I think the Smackdown roster is much stronger and also only needs to fill 2 hours and thus the show is usually much better.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 14:58:15 GMT -5
So apparently Meltzer said this -
Why the f*** are we even bothering with a brand split then?
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Post by Corre.222 on May 7, 2019 15:02:48 GMT -5
Utter f***ing Garbage.
Give Cesaro & Robert Roode his damn shine. Kofi would have never ascended to the main event if it wasn't for this.
It's still at it's nascent stages. Just nix this f***ing idiocy now!
Let Triple H fully take over, because this is Vince McMahon's lousy idea!
If this was a wrestling company that's starting from scratch, it would never get off the ground.
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Post by Moppy on May 7, 2019 15:04:12 GMT -5
So apparently Meltzer said this - If I was Fox, I'd start there, period, before working up to anything too ambitious!
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on May 7, 2019 15:41:11 GMT -5
Probably a network mandate.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 15:42:45 GMT -5
So from now on, three people from Raw will show up on SmackDown and vice-versa. Because... ... ... ... I feel like this image (bless you Chiral ) needs to just be affixed on the main forum page or something, because it's apparently QUITE relevant these days.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:01:41 GMT -5
Two nights in a row WWE fails at counting to four.
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Post by Macho Pichu on May 7, 2019 21:15:25 GMT -5
Instead of coming up with convoluted rules that get broken immediately, why not just have a shoot draft between NBC and Fox execs with the option to reject the results and go another direction should one side get the better end?
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Post by Dub H on May 7, 2019 21:22:11 GMT -5
Instead of coming up with convoluted rules that get broken immediately, why not just have a shoot draft between NBC and Fox execs with the option to reject the results and go another direction should one side get the better end? That would involve a bunch of burocracry between all parties involved.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:25:53 GMT -5
Fox didn't want more storylines. They wanted good ones lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:39:40 GMT -5
Two nights in a row WWE fails at counting to four. I wonder if this guy handles their numerical logic.
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Post by SirLucas on May 7, 2019 21:41:46 GMT -5
So according to storyline, as explained by AJ Styles, the first four superstars to show up to the building get to crash the opposing brand's show. I'd like to see what happens if a 5th person from the other show tries to show up. They should film segments of additional guys getting denied entry because other wrestlers beat them to the four wildcard slots.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:43:04 GMT -5
So according to storyline, as explained by AJ Styles, the first four superstars to show up to the building get to crash the opposing brand's show. I'd like to see what happens if a 5th person from the other show tries to show up. They should film segments of additional guys getting denied entry because other wrestlers beat them to the four wildcard slots. I mean, both Raw and SmackDown had five people show up - Raw had Roman, Kofi, Bryan, Elias, and Lars, while SmackDown had AJ, Sami, the Usos, and Miz.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:44:37 GMT -5
So according to storyline, as explained by AJ Styles, the first four superstars to show up to the building get to crash the opposing brand's show. I'd like to see what happens if a 5th person from the other show tries to show up. They should film segments of additional guys getting denied entry because other wrestlers beat them to the four wildcard slots.
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Post by SirLucas on May 7, 2019 21:46:47 GMT -5
In Kayfabe, how early do wrestlers get to the building to claim one of the wildcard slots?
They should do like a Ride Along like segment where two guys are shown racing from the Raw location to claim the last Smackdown Wildcard slot.
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Post by Perfect Timing on May 9, 2019 15:30:58 GMT -5
Dana Brooke deserves to appear on both shows every week considering how smoking she looked on RAW.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 15:37:10 GMT -5
Instead of coming up with convoluted rules that get broken immediately, why not just have a shoot draft between NBC and Fox execs with the option to reject the results and go another direction should one side get the better end? I have always imagined what not just WWE but the whole wrestling business within north america would be like if it had to have a governing body and every wrestler was eligable for an NBA like draft the absoloutle interest but hilairty that would ensue. Every televised company gets a cap of say 10 mil to spend on superstars. Vince commences to spend all 10mil on Brock and Roman Impact spends 40 mil on john Cena...putting themselves into a 30mil hole and dieing before the draft ends
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