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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on May 18, 2019 13:50:28 GMT -5
Honestly how the f*** does Vince sleep? On a pile of Saudi money.
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Post by bmfjules on May 18, 2019 13:57:24 GMT -5
It’s certainly possible this is true, and it should still be investigated. Obviously, Ashley is no longer here but a lot of those named in the affidavit would seemingly be able to verify or deny the contents. I'm sure I'll get attacked for this but this is an important point. These types of things need to be corroborated by other parties, especially since Ashley was involved in a lawsuit and trying to get money from WWE. We can't just blindly accept what she said as fact without getting a full investigation on the matter. No you are absolutely correct.
This needs to be investigated and brought to light fully by competent investigative journalists and/or lawyers (same job, different goals) and get the truth out there.
There's lots of people that could be questioned here and should be - especially anyone who, as claimed, left her by herself in Saudi Arabia - did they know, as the affidavit makes the case, what she claims they knew? If this all the work of a flim flam lawyer, then that news needs to be spread far and wide too, but if any of this is true, from the denying her the ability to train and protect herself to especially, the cover up of a brutal rape, then WWE needs to suffer through the (sadly) second worst PR nightmare of their history, and if somehow Vince's role in this is confirmed, he HAS to be removed from power at a bare minimum. And possibly Stephanie too.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 18, 2019 14:01:33 GMT -5
In a lot of ways this is worse than Benoit. With Benoit you can argue that Vince wasn’t directly responsible for the murders, but with this Vince and Stephanie are responsible for negligence/trying to cover up a crime
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Post by KofiMania on May 18, 2019 14:04:32 GMT -5
In a lot of ways this is worse than Benoit. With Benoit you can argue that Vince wasn’t directly responsible for the murders, but with this Vince and Stephanie are responsible for negligence/trying to cover up a crime Again, allegedly. We don’t know how true all of the allegations are. WWE denied them during the lawsuit and we haven’t heard from any of those named yet. Curious to see what comes out, if anything.
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Post by bmfjules on May 18, 2019 14:09:30 GMT -5
In a lot of ways this is worse than Benoit. With Benoit you can argue that Vince wasn’t directly responsible for the murders, but with this Vince and Stephanie are responsible for negligence/trying to cover up a crime Agreed. I hate to rank atrocities, but while one could argue Benoit's crime was more horrific, WWE's potential responsibility there is simply being guilty of running a grueling meat grinder of a schedule and (worst case scenario being true) turning a blind eye to serious substance abuse, and even then, as has been argued, WWE could hardly be faulted for trauma he received in Stampede, Japan, ECW, or WCW etc... If this story is true, the stink is entirely 100% on them and there's no spinning their way out of it. Edit - obviously stink on the rapist as well it goes without saying.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 18, 2019 14:57:56 GMT -5
Honestly how the f*** does Vince sleep? He doesn't. He averages 4 hours a night. It can't just be the pressure of running a multi national operation keeping him up at night.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 15:58:29 GMT -5
Ok the Twitter fingers community goes after people or companies for a lot less than covering up a damn rape. That is disgusting and Vince should absolutely be held accountable, even if Ashley isn’t alive to see justice served.
How this man continually gets people’s money is astonishing.
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Post by jason1980s on May 18, 2019 16:40:40 GMT -5
I hope Vince's empire crumbles before him at this point. Me too. Obviously if it happens while he's alive, he wouldn't be around long to feel the pain of the empire crumbling but even if he felt it for one day before dying it would be at least some sweet justice against him. I fully believe that if the Randy Savage/Stephanie rumor were true (it probably isn't) that Vince holds bitterness against Macho because he believes it to be true and wishes it were him instead of Randy. Vince is a sick, sick, sick, sick man and should have been punished long ago for some of his crimes against humanity (Jim Ross's two firings, Owen Hart's death, various assaults by Bradshaw among other wrestlers against defenseless individuals). If it bankrupts that opportunist butt kisser former jobber (just like Paul Roma) Triple H, it will be a little icing on the cake. God Bless Ashley. I am sorry you were failed. I am sorry as a fan I may have failed you. I am sorry when people are taking to social media to address depression, it was too late for you.
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Post by The Ichi on May 18, 2019 16:48:12 GMT -5
Reading through that again...it says the first person she told about the rape was Maria, who sometimes isn't shy with voicing displeasure at WWE (even under contract) and seems to have been a close friend. I'm wondering if we'll hear something from her...
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Post by KofiMania on May 18, 2019 20:18:10 GMT -5
Ok the Twitter fingers community goes after people or companies for a lot less than covering up a damn rape. That is disgusting and Vince should absolutely be held accountable, even if Ashley isn’t alive to see justice served. How this man continually gets people’s money is astonishing. If true, I agree. But again, we don’t know the truth of it yet.
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Post by lionheart21 on May 19, 2019 11:25:24 GMT -5
If this is true...I honestly won't be able to support this company anymore.
A friend of mine that I've since fallen out of contact with was the victim of sexual assault, and the emotional strain was so great on her that she attempted suicide on two separate occasions. She's thankfully been able to find a good guy, start a family and move on with her life, but I have no doubt that she still is affected by that. And I can't give money to a company that had someone on their payroll undergo that same pain and just swept it under the rug.
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Post by SAJ Forth on May 19, 2019 13:58:48 GMT -5
This is beyond messed up.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 14:24:33 GMT -5
Thread here. Very disturbing. And yet according to some reports she contacted WWE back in October and apologized for being part of that CTE lawsuit... I mean, how.....why.....God.....
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Post by jason1980s on May 19, 2019 18:20:14 GMT -5
Sounds like one of the few who really had a case against WWE with a lawsuit and to slightly defend the indefensible WWE, most of those guys were probably approached at a mass autograph signing and the lawyer just signed them up on the fly, as a client in the lawsuit. The bad thing about that is that it muddies the waters for those who really did get hurt or abused under WWE's negligence and selfishness.
I hope in death Ashley can get some justice.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 19, 2019 18:45:58 GMT -5
Thread here. Very disturbing. And yet according to some reports she contacted WWE back in October and apologized for being part of that CTE lawsuit... I mean, how.....why.....God..... When you're dealing with a monopolistic entity, your choices are limited. She clearly had a lot of problems stemming from her injuries and trauma, and even with WWE at the core of a lot of those issues it's still the company that sends (small) royalty checks, and that might bring you back for something like a women's Rumble appearance or something along those lines, and so keeping on good terms with them would have been in her interest. Seeing that she needed access to NY State Medicaid for her surgery, she likely didn't feel she was in a position to cut WWE out entirely, which is a scary thought, but again, it speaks to how much power the company can wield over its workers.
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Post by octopus on May 20, 2019 12:51:01 GMT -5
Good lord...
(And before someone says "ohhh she dropped it and apologized" - that doesn't mean there isn't any truth to it)
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Post by salz4life on May 20, 2019 12:56:12 GMT -5
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 20, 2019 13:36:07 GMT -5
As f***ed up as this is, I kind of wonder how things would of went down if she did press charges or whatever? Back then everyone loved the US military and people probably would of brushed her story off unfortunately. Also as much of a POS Vince is for doing this, a lot more blame does need to go to the military
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Post by PKO on May 20, 2019 14:02:31 GMT -5
This is horrible, just absolutely horrible. This poor woman must have had a war in her mind.
Also, just as an aside, her getting her cast sawn off so she could wrestle lines up with her tag match at Wrestlemania. The match that she replaced Candice Michelle (who was put back in the ring too early after an injury and ended up getting injured even worse). Ashley was off TV at the time with a hand injury and showed up once Candice was put back on the shelf.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 20, 2019 14:50:47 GMT -5
The idea that the company leaned on her to keep quiet, because they valued the rah-rah connection they have to the US Military, is despicable. This is one of your employees, who was raped on your dime, because you had her go to entertain a mob of people who clearly struggle with the concept of self-control and restraint, and you do nothing to make that right?
Even worse, it took her suicide for any of this to come to the public eye. I hope her daughter finds a way to take the WWE to the cleaners.
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