riseofsetian1981
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"I met him fifteen years ago. I was told there was nothing left."
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 19, 2019 16:04:21 GMT -5
I honestly think it was remorse. I don't believe he meant to kill Nancy at all. Once again I point back to the Val Venis and Bob Holly interviews when they discussed it. Most likely scenario is both Chris and Nancy were drinking, an argument ensued that resulted in Benoit losing himself and choking her out. Afterwards he's thinking she's going to wake up and when she doesn't, at that moment it's when begins to sober up, calm down, and realize what he's done. I don't know what to say about the hanging around the dead bodies since that's new information for me. I was under the impression that he killed Nancy and Daniel the same day, then killed himself. I do believe that when Eddie died that was the beginning of the end for Chris though. I read the autopsy report. It was more than just snapping and choking her out. She was bruised all over, from her back all down her legs, and he'd tied her up. I do remember reading I know it wasn't the autopsy report. But the little bit of information I read said there were bruises on her back and that I think there was blood on the pillow too? The whole deal is absolutely horrific and sad.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 19, 2019 16:04:43 GMT -5
What I think is disingenuous is acting as if “we’ll never know EXACTLY what happened” is a good justification for continued skepticism in the face of absolutely overwhelming evidence. Again none of us were there. We don't know what happened on that horrific day. It doesn't matter what we believe or what we think we might know, based on what we've read or heard. In the end it doesn't change the tragic outcome. A mother and a child are dead, a father who was an immensely talented figure who was bound for a HOF induction at some point committed the unthinkable and in many cases unforgiveable. He is also dead too. Three people died way before their time and it's a tragedy anyway we slice it. However, there's nothing wrong with people asking questions and presenting theories either. If people cannot handle a particular theory or question being asked then a debate probably isn't the best scenario for them. ”I’m just asking questions” and “I just want to have a conversation” are usually euphemisms for “I just want to stay wilfully ignorant” when it comes to conspiracy theories.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 19, 2019 16:07:19 GMT -5
I don't necessarily equate it to mental gymnastics. They're simply asking questions, presenting different theories, and attempting to find out why it happened. Investigators can get things wrong and have in the past. There's nothing wrong with people asking legitimate questions and presenting theories on their end, no matter how ridiculous it may seem. Yes, the whole satanic cult thing is very, very far fetched and in general is laughable. But at least people are asking questions and presenting their own theories. For me I do have a lot of questions still. In the end regardless of the theories, the answers, or whatever, the tragedy still happened and nothing anyone thinks, says, or does will change it. Even if there was a 0.000001% chance that its proven Benoit didn't do it, he is still dead, Nancy is dead, and so is Daniel. Nothing will change that tragic unfortunate outcome. I actually agree with you that there is nothing wrong with asking legitimate questions. But, I stress the word legitimate. There is a difference between askimg a legitimate thought provoking question and asking a dumbass question that can be easily answered By doing the tiniest bit of research into the evidence. There is just too much evidence here to say that anyone other than Chris Benoit was the killer. When this first happened, I was in as much denial as anyone. First, I thought they were in an accident. Then, when I found out that they were discovered in their home, I immediately thought of a gas leak. Then, when the words "murder/suicide" We're being used, I thought Nancy was the killer. I thought it was like the Phil Hartman murder. Finally, as details and evidence began to emerge, I had to face the fact that a man who I looked up to was a child murderer. Absolutely. No one went into the mindset that anything other than an accident took place. Before any information was released there were a lot of fans on message forums thinking the worse such as a murder suicide. Honestly I thought all three were murdered at first. Someone broke into their house and killed all three victims. That was my first initial thought or it was a case of carbon monoxide poisoning. Phil Hartman's death is still one of the most unexpected tragedies. I hate what happened to him.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 19, 2019 16:08:28 GMT -5
Again none of us were there. We don't know what happened on that horrific day. It doesn't matter what we believe or what we think we might know, based on what we've read or heard. In the end it doesn't change the tragic outcome. A mother and a child are dead, a father who was an immensely talented figure who was bound for a HOF induction at some point committed the unthinkable and in many cases unforgiveable. He is also dead too. Three people died way before their time and it's a tragedy anyway we slice it. However, there's nothing wrong with people asking questions and presenting theories either. If people cannot handle a particular theory or question being asked then a debate probably isn't the best scenario for them. ”I’m just asking questions” and “I just want to have a conversation” are usually euphemisms for “I just want to stay wilfully ignorant” when it comes to conspiracy theories. Call it what you want. At the end of the day, people have questions and theories, if you feel the need to insult them for having a difference of opinion then that's you. I have always been open to any and all discussions no matter how ridiculous the idea might seem.
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Post by RedSmile on May 19, 2019 16:24:46 GMT -5
”I’m just asking questions” and “I just want to have a conversation” are usually euphemisms for “I just want to stay wilfully ignorant” when it comes to conspiracy theories. Call it what you want. At the end of the day, people have questions and theories, if you feel the need to insult them for having a difference of opinion then that's you. I have always been open to any and all discussions no matter how ridiculous the idea might seem. Ok, I have questions. -What is your professional experience and education level in regards to criminal investigations? -What is your professional experience and education level in regards to forensic science? -What is your professional experience and education level in regards to criminal psychology? -What is your professional experience and education level in regards to law enforcement? -What is your profession, and what is your education level in general?
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