Jon Moxley's in AEW (and New Japan, June 5th)

[HMARK Center]

I didn't see Juice's promo about it yet, but I'm guessing there's some mention of their joint past in FCW/early NXT?

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May 28, 2019 12:05:31 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

I didn't see Juice's promo about it yet, but I'm guessing there's some mention of their joint past in FCW/early NXT?

Yep. He also said that they're not who they used to be as well.

[Dub H]

May 28, 2019 6:02:50 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

May 27, 2019 14:14:35 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

The fact that AEW has clauses in contracts that allow someone to work NJPW is the equivalent of sending someone to NJPW. WWE wouldn't allow it.

Not exactly; Moxley could've chosen to work with any other company in Japan if he wanted to do this. The contract he has is a passive gesture on AEW's part: "You can go and work some place else under these parameters, you're free to do so." Actively sending him there would mean there's a full-on cooperative agreement between the two promotions, ala when NJPW and WCW had a partnership going through the 90s, but that's not what this is.

By all accounts, though, the two are at least keeping on decent terms with one another, so it's not unfair to project a future relationship between the two that's more active.

I think the clause "If you happen to have free time we will allow you to appear in other companies" is great." Restrective but fair.

Not sure how much free time Ambrose will have,being one of the main players of AEW but still nice to have.

[corndog]

May 28, 2019 6:02:50 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

May 27, 2019 14:14:35 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

The fact that AEW has clauses in contracts that allow someone to work NJPW is the equivalent of sending someone to NJPW. WWE wouldn't allow it.

Not exactly; Moxley could've chosen to work with any other company in Japan if he wanted to do this. The contract he has is a passive gesture on AEW's part: "You can go and work some place else under these parameters, you're free to do so." Actively sending him there would mean there's a full-on cooperative agreement between the two promotions, ala when NJPW and WCW had a partnership going through the 90s, but that's not what this is.

By all accounts, though, the two are at least keeping on decent terms with one another, so it's not unfair to project a future relationship between the two that's more active.

Much like Jericho, Moxley has just signed a separate contract with New Japan. Whereas, with ROH/New Japan/CMLL/Rev Pro, they can borrow/request/trade talent for periods of time, granted I am sure they still have to pay them out of pocket. Although, the most interesting part is Kenny requested a clause that he could work for New Japan whenever he wants, so I think we see him back in a New Japan ring before the end of the year. I will be more confident in the relationship if we see Okada or Naito in AEW, but right now it just seems at least the doors are open between the two and could open up even more if ROH continues to drop the ball.

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JR didn't know Moxley was going to be there so his reaction was genuine.

By Justin Barrasso May 28, 2019

If Jim Ross has sounded any better than he did during Saturday’s Double or Nothing, it is hard to remember when.

The proud “Boomer Sooner” delivered a phenomenal play-by-play call of All Elite Wrestling’s inaugural pay-per-view. The excitement in his voice was audible throughout the night, especially during Jon Moxley’s electrifying debut that closed out the show.

“I didn’t know it was going to happen,” said Ross. “I knew we were negotiating with Moxley. I asked what was happening with him about 10 days ago, and I was told it was going well, but when it came time for the show, his name wasn’t anywhere on my format sheet. It left my mind because I had more I knew I had to prepare for.”

If Ross sounded genuinely shocked in his call, it is because the moment even caught him by surprise.

“The lucky part for me is it reminded me of Mick Foley getting thrown off the cell,” said Ross. “I didn’t know that was going to happen, and the same thing happened on Saturday night in Vegas. I didn’t know Moxley was coming out there. He was so full of passion and raw, animal magnetism. I felt it in my bone marrow, it was a ‘Stone Cold’ moment.”

www.si.com/wrestling/2019/05/28/all-elite-wrestling-aew-jim-ross-jon-moxley-debut-double-nothing

[Mister Pigwell]

May 28, 2019 15:46:57 GMT -5 @kn said:

JR didn't know Moxley was going to be there so his reaction was genuine.

By Justin Barrasso May 28, 2019

If Jim Ross has sounded any better than he did during Saturday’s Double or Nothing, it is hard to remember when.

The proud “Boomer Sooner” delivered a phenomenal play-by-play call of All Elite Wrestling’s inaugural pay-per-view. The excitement in his voice was audible throughout the night, especially during Jon Moxley’s electrifying debut that closed out the show.

“I didn’t know it was going to happen,” said Ross. “I knew we were negotiating with Moxley. I asked what was happening with him about 10 days ago, and I was told it was going well, but when it came time for the show, his name wasn’t anywhere on my format sheet. It left my mind because I had more I knew I had to prepare for.”

If Ross sounded genuinely shocked in his call, it is because the moment even caught him by surprise.

“The lucky part for me is it reminded me of Mick Foley getting thrown off the cell,” said Ross. “I didn’t know that was going to happen, and the same thing happened on Saturday night in Vegas. I didn’t know Moxley was coming out there. He was so full of passion and raw, animal magnetism. I felt it in my bone marrow, it was a ‘Stone Cold’ moment.”

www.si.com/wrestling/2019/05/28/all-elite-wrestling-aew-jim-ross-jon-moxley-debut-double-nothing

Makes sense. JR has always said he doesn't want to be in the loop on anything and prefers to give genuine reactions.

[Feargus McReddit]

I want to say that he probably knew and he’s working but on the other hand, he sounded really goddamn genuine in a way you couldn’t fake.

[Bub (BLM)]

That's a cool story. He definitely sounded like his old self in that moment. Have an exciting product and your announcers sound genuinely excited to call the action. Weird.

[Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley]

I'm of two school of thought. A Juice win over Mox would be huge for him, but I would love Mox win if it meant him defending the title at Dominion, preferably against Goto.

[Dub H]

May 28, 2019 15:49:02 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

May 28, 2019 15:46:57 GMT -5 @kn said:

JR didn't know Moxley was going to be there so his reaction was genuine.

Makes sense. JR has always said he doesn't want to be in the loop on anything and prefers to give genuine reactions.

I remember saying thats one of the things I wanted, authentic commentary and dont feel the need to tell everything your announcer HAS to say.

[Johnny Flamingo]

May 28, 2019 15:54:24 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

That's a cool story. He definitely sounded like his old self in that moment. Have an exciting product and your announcers sound genuinely excited to call the action. Weird.

Add to the fact that JR is passionate about wrestling and it really shows when he is enjoying the product and having fun. JR was really great in his role.

[Mister Pigwell]

^I haven't seen DoN yet but JR having a good night is a big reason why I want to eventually catch it.