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Post by Raskovnik on May 27, 2019 2:29:18 GMT -5
Jericho would make more sense, but I'm not mad at either option.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 27, 2019 2:37:03 GMT -5
Not Who, but his tag partner... Cant believe AEW made Bret Hart their first champion. He won it at a tournament in Puerto Rico.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 27, 2019 2:50:51 GMT -5
Can I just say that I absolutely love the fact we've split the vote on who should be the first champion? Shows that simply having the two of them in that slot makes the match booking itself as extremely smart, since you're never going to please everyone, but it's about as balanced as you can get at finding a middle ground that's acceptable by your audience. That said, I went with Jericho simply because I feel Page still has a bit more to prove to the mainstream audiences before being "the face of the company," whereas Jericho has limited time in his career left and I feel he can help the company a lot more as a target for the young guys to chase after for a year or so before passing the proverbial torch to the man for the job. Whether it's Omega, Page, Moxley, or someone else in the company that's yet to rise in the ranks, we shall see. Yeah, I'm loving how there is advantages and disadvantages to either option. For Jericho, it's getting an established name that people know and recognize, while he still has some gas left in the tank. It also sends a message to other top talent in WWE that the grass may indeed be greener if they want to think twice about renewing. It's almost a guarantee that the first ever person on your title history will bring prestige to the promotion. And AEW is very face heavy at the top with Kenny, Cody, and Page being the core of the singles main event scene, so you might have more follow up matches in the wing than Page does, especially the Cody match which is a fresh combination. And perhaps there is money in Page chasing the title and getting it after being more established with newer fans that haven't seen ROH, New Japan, or BTE. On the other hand, putting the title on Adam Page is a statement of intent about getting the younger guys over. In an age where the next major wrestling card features AARP members Goldberg and Undertaker taking a shit on their legacies while wiping their asses with blood money, putting your title on Adam Page says that this is where the youth movement in wrestling is. It also elevates Hangman from the bottom of the Elite to on the same level as Kenny and Cody, at a time when AEW needs as many stars as possible. And while I did touch on Jericho having big matches awaiting him if he wins, main event level Page might have an advantage on this front. Because if they want to put Moxley in the title scene in the near future, it's got to be that Page he faces and possibly dethrones. Moxley vs. Jericho would probably be the worst combination they could run, between it being heel vs. heel, not a fresh combination, and having too much WWE stink in general. Plus, if PAC is able to come in after he's no longer undefeated in Dragon Gate, that's another big title defense that people will buy in as a World title level match with the history already there. Either way, I would have never thought that Chris Jericho vs. Adam Page could be such a compelling main event, but here we are.
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Post by Chainsaw on May 27, 2019 2:54:27 GMT -5
It's tough, because Page's whole storyline has been about whether he's ready to be a champion, and losing to Jericho for the title is going to sting and put a hell of a weight on Page. But it feels like Jericho is destined to hold that title first, especially after his promo after beating Omega about AEW is for him, not the fans.
Honestly, that you can call this a 50/50 split and it's not being immediately telegraphed who's going to win is a good sign right now.
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Post by King Devitt on May 27, 2019 6:00:55 GMT -5
Either one would satisfy.
Jericho would be more thrilling. One of the absolute Best heels ever sitting atop his AEW "I told you so" throne. Hell they should let him have a throne to sit on to watch over the matches like they did with Mil Muertes in Lucha Underground. "I'm the Face of AEW" Jericho as champ would be so much fun.
Page would be refreshing. The guy can wrestle, he can talk, he can do comedy and serious both very well. He's solid "homegrown" choice to establish the title, and his career, with a win over Jericho.
You really can't go wrong here. It's brilliant booking.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 27, 2019 8:17:51 GMT -5
It's tough, because Page's whole storyline has been about whether he's ready to be a champion, and losing to Jericho for the title is going to sting and put a hell of a weight on Page. But it feels like Jericho is destined to hold that title first, especially after his promo after beating Omega about AEW is for him, not the fans. Honestly, that you can call this a 50/50 split and it's not being immediately telegraphed who's going to win is a good sign right now. I think that Jericho's belief that it's his destiny to win the title is what makes him losing to Page so much better. Jericho has been going all in on 'this company is on my shoulders. You should all be grateful I gave you credibility' and to me, that's something that should be disproved, when he loses the first title match. I think it makes him a bigger heel, to want to avenge his humiliating defeat, and it makes Page a bigger deal if he's the one who proves Jericho wrong. And if there's anyone who can make Page seem like a really big deal, it's a Chris Jericho who hates him.
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Post by Rican on May 27, 2019 10:04:00 GMT -5
Jericho is my pick, he’s got name recognition and for some of the lapsed Attitude Era/WCW fans they’re hoping to pick up he’d go a long way IMO. Also Jericho is one of my top 3 all time faves so just as a fan of his I really want first ever AEW champion to be on his resume haha.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on May 27, 2019 13:40:35 GMT -5
I’m saying Jericho, it just seems better to start with a heel champion to get the fans behind the face who will be chasing him.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 27, 2019 13:49:24 GMT -5
I’m guessing Jericho.
Page doesn’t really seem like a big deal. Especially for a place getting off the ground. Build to him in awhile.
And I guess Cody beats Jericho as part of the first big TNT tv feud
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Post by TGM on May 27, 2019 14:45:50 GMT -5
I really am digging this Jericho run. I think he would make a fine first champion. Page is clearly a big star, I hope they build him up more before he wins the title.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 27, 2019 14:49:13 GMT -5
Jericho being the first champ would be my first "doubt" moment for AEW. This company should be all about the future. Not a 50 year old, dressing like a lame 17 year old. It's gotta be Page. Move forward, not back.
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Post by KofiMania on May 27, 2019 22:00:00 GMT -5
Jericho being the first champ would be my first "doubt" moment for AEW. This company should be all about the future. Not a 50 year old, dressing like a lame 17 year old. It's gotta be Page. Move forward, not back. You need to establish credibility in the fresh talent by using older talent to work with them. I think having Jericho as the champ going into the TNT premiere is the smart thing.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 27, 2019 22:02:12 GMT -5
Jericho being the first champ would be my first "doubt" moment for AEW. This company should be all about the future. Not a 50 year old, dressing like a lame 17 year old. It's gotta be Page. Move forward, not back. You need to establish credibility in the fresh talent by using older talent to work with them. I think having Jericho as the champ going into the TNT premiere is the smart thing. And that's how you establish credibilty, by having the young talent beat the old. Page beating Jericho instantly makes him legit. Being the "hot new company" with a 50 year old champ makes AEW's core concept look like a joke.
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Post by KofiMania on May 27, 2019 22:04:24 GMT -5
You need to establish credibility in the fresh talent by using older talent to work with them. I think having Jericho as the champ going into the TNT premiere is the smart thing. And that's how you establish credibilty, by having the young talent beat the old. Page beating Jericho instantly makes him legit. Being the "hot new company" with a 50 year old champ makes AEW's core concept look like a joke. The audience watching All Out will be much smaller than the audience watching on TNT.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 27, 2019 22:07:47 GMT -5
And that's how you establish credibilty, by having the young talent beat the old. Page beating Jericho instantly makes him legit. Being the "hot new company" with a 50 year old champ makes AEW's core concept look like a joke. The audience watching All Out will be much smaller than the audience watching on TNT. Which again, is why you start by establishing Page off the jump, instead of playing right into the old "Well, we can ONLY EVER rely on BIG NAMES!" trap that's killed so many promotions before. If AEW's supposed to be about being new and innovative, then a 50 year old champ isn't the way to go. Take a big risk, get a big reward.
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Post by Starshine on May 27, 2019 22:09:44 GMT -5
I think Page is the safe choice. The first champion should almost always be someone who reflects what product the promotion is catering. Page is a young guy who made a name for himself, and has no super strong prior ties to any specific wrestling company. Jericho seems to be there because he's someone who has clout, dependability, and credibility. He's the perfect foil for a guy to make his name against. Even more now since he just beat Omega.
I'd raise my eyebrow at Jericho winning. He's not a terrible choice for champion, and I'd have no qualms if he held the belt down the road. But AEW needs to really play their cards right now. Considering their "we're not WWE" M.O. they shouldn't want the initial image of a middle aged former WWE guy being the face of their company just as soon as the doors have opened.
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Post by Lupin the Third on May 27, 2019 22:17:39 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on May 27, 2019 22:18:32 GMT -5
I really wonder if Kenny not being the debut champion is the right choice.
I know it would reek of "booking yourself on top" but guy is legit the biggest star outside of WWE
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 27, 2019 22:21:16 GMT -5
I really wonder if Kenny not being the debut champion is the right choice. I know it would reek of "booking yourself on top" but guy is legit the biggest star outside of WWE I dunno. I see that, but I also see the value in making sure that the first champ isn't one of "the bosses" specifically to quell that fear that that's what AEW is, just a vanity project to pad resumes of the EVPs.
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Post by Dub H on May 27, 2019 22:23:12 GMT -5
I really wonder if Kenny not being the debut champion is the right choice. I know it would reek of "booking yourself on top" but guy is legit the biggest star outside of WWE I dunno. I see that, but I also see the value in making sure that the first champ isn't one of "the bosses" specifically to quell that fear that that's what AEW is, just a vanity project to pad resumes of the EVPs. Yeh I guess that is the line to walk when you are the boss(Looking at you Double J). I really believe if it wants this circustance,Kenny would have been the first champion
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