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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 15, 2019 22:24:35 GMT -5
That trophy makes Liverpool the most successful team in English football history with 46 major honours. United have 45. I'm sure the Man United fans are all arguing that the Charity Shield should be included. If that was regarded as a trophy, which it shouldn't! that would make it 66-61 to United. However, I don't regard the Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup or World Club Cup as a proper trophy so that makes it a 42-42 tie in my book I’ve seen a few saying it should be included. Although Ferguson himself never saw it as anything other a pre-season friendly and said he just used it as an extra match to gauge players’ fitness. I’ve also seen several United fans before yesterday saying that the Charity Shield isn’t a major trophy and United still had more trophies than Liverpool even if you don’t count it. Now since Liverpool’s win yesterday, several of them are seeing it as a trophy again, just to try and claim the “more trophies” tag. I notice the Super Cup’s Wikipedia page has been edited frequently in the last 24 hours. And now the first paragraph specifically mentions it not being a major competition. Didn’t say that two days ago, can’t imagine why. Not saying Liverpool fans aren’t petty as well because they lorded it over United with “come back when you’ve won 19 Leagues”. United did just that, so it immediately became “errr.... come back when you’ve won the European Cup more than us”. (Although I did chuckle at the one before 2008 when it was “come back when you’ve won more European Cups than Nottingham Forest”). Personally I’ve never considered the charity shield as anything other than a friendly. The Super Cup isn’t much better but in certain countries it is considered a major honour. It’s not seen here in the UK as a particularly big honour, yet outside the UK, it carries a lot more prestige. I don’t really know what to class it as and to be totally honest, it we hadn’t played Chelsea in the match yesterday, I would have cared a lot less. I was more concerned about the extra time affecting Liverpool’s Premier League match this weekend.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Aug 15, 2019 22:31:36 GMT -5
I'm sure the Man United fans are all arguing that the Charity Shield should be included. If that was regarded as a trophy, which it shouldn't! that would make it 66-61 to United. However, I don't regard the Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup or World Club Cup as a proper trophy so that makes it a 42-42 tie in my book I’ve seen a few saying it should be included. Although Ferguson himself never saw it as anything other a pre-season friendly and said he just used it as an extra match to gauge players’ fitness. I’ve also seen several United fans before yesterday saying that the Charity Shield isn’t a major trophy and United still had more trophies than Liverpool even if you don’t count it. Now since Liverpool’s win yesterday, several of them are seeing it as a trophy again, just to try and claim the “more trophies” tag. I notice the Super Cup’s Wikipedia page has been edited frequently in the last 24 hours. And now the first paragraph specifically mentions it not being a major competition. Didn’t say that two days ago, can’t imagine why. Not saying Liverpool fans aren’t petty as well because they lorded it over United with “come back when you’ve won 19 Leagues”. United did just that, so it immediately became “errr.... come back when you’ve won the European Cup more than us”. (Although I did chuckle at the one before 2008 when it was “come back when you’ve won more European Cups than Nottingham Forest”). Personally I’ve never considered the charity shield as anything other than a friendly. The Super Cup isn’t much better but in certain countries it is considered a major honour. It’s not seen here in the UK as a particularly big honour, yet outside the UK, it carries a lot more prestige. I don’t really know what to class it as and to be totally honest, it we hadn’t played Chelsea in the match yesterday, I would have cared a lot less. I was more concerned about the extra time affecting Liverpool’s Premier League match this weekend. It's kind of reassuring that by supporting a crap team I'll never have to worry about these ambiguities. At least I can confidently say that my team has officially and undisputedly won the grand total of 1 major trophy in its history.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 15, 2019 22:45:41 GMT -5
I’ve seen a few saying it should be included. Although Ferguson himself never saw it as anything other a pre-season friendly and said he just used it as an extra match to gauge players’ fitness. I’ve also seen several United fans before yesterday saying that the Charity Shield isn’t a major trophy and United still had more trophies than Liverpool even if you don’t count it. Now since Liverpool’s win yesterday, several of them are seeing it as a trophy again, just to try and claim the “more trophies” tag. I notice the Super Cup’s Wikipedia page has been edited frequently in the last 24 hours. And now the first paragraph specifically mentions it not being a major competition. Didn’t say that two days ago, can’t imagine why. Not saying Liverpool fans aren’t petty as well because they lorded it over United with “come back when you’ve won 19 Leagues”. United did just that, so it immediately became “errr.... come back when you’ve won the European Cup more than us”. (Although I did chuckle at the one before 2008 when it was “come back when you’ve won more European Cups than Nottingham Forest”). Personally I’ve never considered the charity shield as anything other than a friendly. The Super Cup isn’t much better but in certain countries it is considered a major honour. It’s not seen here in the UK as a particularly big honour, yet outside the UK, it carries a lot more prestige. I don’t really know what to class it as and to be totally honest, it we hadn’t played Chelsea in the match yesterday, I would have cared a lot less. I was more concerned about the extra time affecting Liverpool’s Premier League match this weekend. It's kind of reassuring that by supporting a crap team I'll never have to worry about these ambiguities. At least I can confidently say that my team has officially and undisputedly won the grand total of 1 major trophy in its history. Some of it is down to certain Managers stirring the pot. A big motivation behind Liverpool fans gloating about trophies yesterday was because Ferguson said the whole “knocking Liverpool off their perch” line. Liverpool aren’t innocent there either as Shankly was known for stirring up the fans too (although that was more directed at Everton to be fair). I like a bit of rivalry but there are some f***witt fans who should be kicked repeatedly up the arse. Like when United fans chant “Murderers” at Liverpool or when Liverpool sing about Munich.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Aug 16, 2019 15:10:22 GMT -5
meanwhile in the welsh premier ..... penny bont is in front of barry .....
and i'm watching TWO on my tele ..... the aforementioned penny v barry match, and the first spanish game with athletic and barca in picture-in-picture
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Aug 16, 2019 15:13:39 GMT -5
barry equalises
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Aug 16, 2019 15:35:35 GMT -5
BARRY IS BEATING PENNY NOW .....
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Aug 16, 2019 15:48:04 GMT -5
ATLETICOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Aug 16, 2019 17:06:33 GMT -5
first manager sacking with huddersfield coutinho to bayern on season loan
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Post by 4real on Aug 17, 2019 3:47:20 GMT -5
Sitting through the incredibly dull Bilbao v Barca game was worth it for that incredible goal at the end. 38 year old just on as a sub scores a spectacular overhead kick with first touch. Mental.
Barca looked pretty toothless without Messi as well.
Think Coutinho is a great signing for Bayern. Exactly the kind of player they need after Ribéry & Robben’s retirements.
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Post by armbar on Aug 17, 2019 11:06:22 GMT -5
Teemu Pukki can't stop scoring goals.
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Post by Wailing Fungus on Aug 17, 2019 12:38:14 GMT -5
“We know how well Teemu Pukki did in the Championship, but will he score enough in the Premier League? I don’t think so – I don’t think he will get 10 league goals this season.” - Mark Lawrenson.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 17, 2019 12:47:09 GMT -5
“We know how well Teemu Pukki did in the Championship, but will he score enough in the Premier League? I don’t think so – I don’t think he will get 10 league goals this season.” - Mark Lawrenson. He talks shit. Has been stealing a living for decades.
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Post by Jiren on Aug 17, 2019 13:44:20 GMT -5
Man VAR really hates Man City.
Especially against Tottenham
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 17, 2019 15:45:43 GMT -5
“We know how well Teemu Pukki did in the Championship, but will he score enough in the Premier League? I don’t think so – I don’t think he will get 10 league goals this season.” - Mark Lawrenson. Lawrenson is an idiot. That said, Pukki won't be playing against Newcastle every week.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 17, 2019 15:56:58 GMT -5
The saddest thing about Lawrenson? His crap punditry makes it easy to forget just how good he really was before injuries cut his career short.
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Post by 4real on Aug 18, 2019 10:32:59 GMT -5
Sheffield United beat one of my other relegation picks Palace. Sheffield United still unbeaten. There will be tougher games to come of course.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Aug 18, 2019 11:13:01 GMT -5
The quarter-finals of the Scottish League Cup are as follows:
Celtic v Partick Thistle
Kilmarnock v Hibernian
Hearts v Aberdeen
Livingston v Rangers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 12:24:48 GMT -5
I guess Pulisic hasn't been living up to the hype so far?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 18, 2019 12:47:15 GMT -5
I guess Pulisic hasn't been living up to the hype so far? Pretty much, but he isn't the first import from the German league to take time to adjust to the pace and aggression of the Premier League, and he won't be the last.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 18, 2019 17:24:15 GMT -5
So weird hearing that softly-spoken voice coming out of such a lairy gobshite like Tim Cahill.
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