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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 10, 2021 17:10:07 GMT -5
Looks like once again Skeletor has become more than man, more than life... I am a GOD! Say what you want about that movie, but Frank Langella as Skeletor & Meg Foster as Evil-Lyn were awesome! I mean, it is generally considered the peak of Courteney Cox' acting career, right?
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 10, 2021 17:13:27 GMT -5
Wow, I don't think I've see anybody try to do an "I Need a Hero" montage straight since Short Circuit 2. Personally I would've gone with "Only Solutions". Shrek 2, sorta. With the added bonus of Jennifer Saunders singing it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 10, 2021 17:14:04 GMT -5
If you pause the trailer when The Sorceress is powering up (0:31), you'll notice {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Faker is restraining her Nicely....I wonder how they portray him? {Spoiler} Generic He-Man robot, or Bizarro He-Man?
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 10, 2021 17:15:36 GMT -5
Wow, I don't think I've see anybody try to do an "I Need a Hero" montage straight since Short Circuit 2. Personally I would've gone with "Only Solutions". Shrek 2, sorta. With the added bonus of Jennifer Saunders singing it. Again though, that felt more like a parody of an "I Need a Hero" montage, not a straight, serious rendition of one.
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Post by prettynami on Jun 10, 2021 18:19:22 GMT -5
Teela looking great! She always was one of my favorites as a kid though, so I may be a bit biased.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 11, 2021 1:05:33 GMT -5
No love for the Warrior Beasts. Damn you, Warrior Beasts, why doesn't anyone love you?
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Post by thechase on Jun 11, 2021 3:32:38 GMT -5
Honestly, since showrunners do write certain episodes, it would be amusing, at least as it pertains to those concerned about how much focus Adam gets here, if Smith writes the one episode that is truest to the traditional conventions of a Masters story, He-Man as the lead etc, and all his other writers are tasked with fleshing out Teela's journey.
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Post by thechase on Jun 12, 2021 1:58:07 GMT -5
Here's Smith detailing more of the show, and confirms it's more about Teela and how she reacts to the 'revelation' that Adam is He-Man among other things. She learns it in the heat of battle rather than Adam trusting her with the secret himself. He describes her as being as 'left in the dark as Lois Lane' twitter.com/NetflixGeeked/status/1403457011837149184
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 12, 2021 10:33:54 GMT -5
If you pause the trailer when The Sorceress is powering up (0:31), you'll notice {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Faker is restraining her Nicely....I wonder how they portray him? {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Generic He-Man robot, or Bizarro He-Man? Being the comic geek he is, I hope Smith does the latter. And now I want to remind you of how underrated the MYP era was:
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 12, 2021 12:16:33 GMT -5
Here's Smith detailing more of the show, and confirms it's more about Teela and how she reacts to the 'revelation' that Adam is He-Man among other things. She learns it in the heat of battle rather than Adam trusting her with the secret himself. He describes her as being as 'left in the dark as Lois Lane' OH NOES GET YER GURL POWER OUTTA MY HE-MAN!!!!!! LOL.
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Post by thechase on Jun 12, 2021 12:42:25 GMT -5
Here's Smith detailing more of the show, and confirms it's more about Teela and how she reacts to the 'revelation' that Adam is He-Man among other things. She learns it in the heat of battle rather than Adam trusting her with the secret himself. He describes her as being as 'left in the dark as Lois Lane' OH NOES GET YER GURL POWER OUTTA MY HE-MAN!!!!!! LOL. I feel like a lot of the complaints about it come from those who aren't as versed in MOTU lore as they think. Teela is just as important to the mythos of the show and was always being set up as one of it's future prospects given her destiny is to become the next Sorceress. This isn't just a case of selecting a 'strong female character' in random sequence and making her bigger than she was because it's 'current year', it's enhancing her role in the bigger picture the same way the comics and to an extent MYP's version have done for her. She was Adam's biggest critic and one of He-Man's strongest allies. I've legit seen comments from people who claim to have seen the show but "didn't see much of Teela" when she was a regular for the near entire duration of the programme.
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Post by thechase on Jun 13, 2021 3:20:38 GMT -5
Couple of new details from Kevin:
-There will be an intro sequence that gives new audiences a backstory, the theme is described as 'sofa king metal'
-The first five episodes will be homages to movies from the 1980s:
Episode One: Superman II Episode Two: Temple of Doom Episode Three: Batman '89 Epiosde Four: HellRaizer Episode Five: Masters of the Universe (presumably the cliff-hanger is Skeletor becomes a god like he does in the movie)
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 13, 2021 4:03:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Teela is important, and honestly, I am cool with this given that Adam keeping her in the dark never made a lot of sense to me, anyway, given that being King Randor's son made him a priority target, anyway, and it isn't like he has any more reason to doubt her discretion than Man at Arms' or Orko's. I get not making it public knowledge, but he should at least clue in his closest comrades.
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Post by thechase on Jun 13, 2021 4:33:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Teela is important, and honestly, I am cool with this given that Adam keeping her in the dark never made a lot of sense to me, anyway, given that being King Randor's son made him a priority target, anyway, and it isn't like he has any more reason to doubt her discretion than Man at Arms' or Orko's. I get not making it public knowledge, but he should at least clue in his closest comrades. I know a lot of fans don't like New Adventures of He-Man, but he at least told his parents who he was before he set off for the future. Teela pieced together Adam was He-Man in the 2002 series, but suddenly bought an excuse that he wasn't in the same episode. My headcanon was she just played along and would constantly tease Adam about it later, hoping he'd trust her and let her in eventually. That version of Teela also got much better development in the comic books produced at the time...I especially liked the ones where Adam took in an injured Evil-Lyn and Teela grew increasingly envious, and there was also a scene where she admitted to Adam she wanted to play games in the castle with him again just like they did when they were kids. Little things like that which remind us Teela's relationship with Adam goes back a long while and there's a lot of love between them rather than just concern and criticism from her towards him. And yes, Adam can be a target too. In fact, the original series itself tackled this subject in one of the better episodes ("Prince Adam No More") with the added element of Adam actually proving he was more than just a disguise and had agency and capability of his own. While it's possible we see less of He-Man in the first half of Revelation, I hope to see more of Adam proving himself and taking responsibility for how his relationship with Teela turns out.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 13, 2021 11:38:39 GMT -5
I see it like this, Adam had been Teela's best friend since childhood. And in one moment, a lifetime of trust is lost.
Teela coming to grips with her best friend hiding the big secret that he's been the hero of the planet this whole time. Not to mention that Adam also knows The Sorceress is Teela's mother, and also didn't tell her.
The world still needs to be saved, and the one person who can do it is someone she can no longer trust? That's a hell of a set-up.
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Post by chrom on Jun 13, 2021 13:46:03 GMT -5
I know the 80s were dumb but how dumb do you gotta be to not realize they were the same person?
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Post by thechase on Jun 13, 2021 13:50:04 GMT -5
I know the 80s were dumb but how dumb do you gotta be to not realize they were the same person? This is why both this show and the 2002 show had the common sense to make it less obvious.
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Post by thechase on Jun 13, 2021 15:46:04 GMT -5
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Post by Simon on Jun 14, 2021 18:04:43 GMT -5
Kevin Smith talked about Revelation and specifically addressed ClownfishTV's nonsense (start at about 42:50). This is pretty much the last word on the subject until the show comes out, but my takeaways:
1. We're getting a story trailer closer to release that's going to make people sit up and go "OH S***"
2. Teela does not have a girlfriend and is no more or less a focus than she was in the original show.
3. The show is "all about He-Man" and no one supplants him as the main character. Smith points out that in the old series, on occasion, He-Man needed help from his friends and "sometimes friendship is the only way forward." Put two and two together.
4. Ted Biaselli, Netflix's Original Series executive and the guy who brought on Kevin Smith for Revelation, is a ridiculous Masters of the Universe fan (to the point where his video calls have a backdrop of his MOTU toys). Smith says if he tried anything like what ClownfishTV is saying, Biaselli would have just fired him.
5. They watched the 2002 Mike Young series and Smith says it's "very close in spirit" to what Revelation is.
6. Action scenes are going to be wild. After seeing Powerhouse's work early on, Smith and the writers sometimes just left blank spaces in the storyboard and said "action scene goes here" and cut the artists loose.
7. Smith is blown away by the musical score and says Evil-Lyn gets a track in Episodes 7-8 that "could have come out of Star Wars."
8. Revelation "tastes like a happy childhood."
Could he be hyping all this up? Sure, but I'm going to choose to believe the hype over ClownfishTV, because 1) their only source is Aaron Sparrow, a writer on the Darkwing Duck comic who has nothing to do with the show but a conspicuous propensity for "anti-SJW" rants and 2) how many 30-minute angry, snarky videos on Youtube do we really need?
This is going to be awesome, and I can't wait.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 14, 2021 20:08:18 GMT -5
Who's Clownfish and what does he have to do with MOTU?
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