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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 21, 2019 6:21:43 GMT -5
Inspired by the current story in WWE. While the “higher power” angle will probably leap to mind first and foremost, I don’t think anything tops the white hummer in WCW. But I’m sure there are some other stinkers out there.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 21, 2019 7:24:45 GMT -5
"Who tried to run over Stone Cold?" was good until Triple H was revealed to be the mastermind.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Aug 21, 2019 7:39:19 GMT -5
Hornswoggle revealed as the anonymous Raw GM.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Aug 21, 2019 7:51:23 GMT -5
"Who tried to run over Stone Cold?" was good until Triple H was revealed to be the mastermind. I personally didn’t have a problem with the idea of Triple H being the mastermind, in a way it makes perfect sense if you consider that Triple H became properly established as a main eventer in Austin's absence, and could have wanted to shelve him permanently for his own ends. The problem was the initial reveal being Rikishi and Triple H being shoehorned in when that flopped. Then the whole thing being forgotten six months later when Austin turned heel and aligned with Triple H.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 21, 2019 7:53:46 GMT -5
It's the Higher Power by a landslide. Not only the most lazy and obvious reveal, but it also torpedoed 6 months of storyline.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 21, 2019 7:57:39 GMT -5
At least it was a reveal. And it also drew money. The Hummer angle basically destroyed WCW in mid 1999 and they never recovered. The Hummer deal was so horrid that the guy who was run over did a heel turn while the angle was still ongoing (Nash), the mastermind behind it quit the company (Savage), and none of it ever made any sense.
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Post by realist on Aug 21, 2019 7:59:21 GMT -5
It's the Higher Power by a landslide. Not only the most lazy and obvious reveal, but it also torpedoed 6 months of storyline. It was the "it was all a dream" moment of wrestling.
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 21, 2019 8:02:08 GMT -5
It's the Higher Power by a landslide. Not only the most lazy and obvious reveal, but it also torpedoed 6 months of storyline. It was the "it was all a dream" moment of wrestling. The lousy part is that nobody came out of that storyline any better than they went in, unless you wanna make a case for....I dunno...Test maybe?
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Post by clifford on Aug 21, 2019 8:04:39 GMT -5
Hornswoggle revealed as the anonymous Raw GM. I'll do you one better and say Hornswoggle being revealed as Vince's illegitimate son. They could have legit made Ken Kennedy a permanent main eventer that night. Dude was on the cusp as it was, and the crowd were so into him being the son during the reveal as well. Maybe better he wasn't though, with hindsight and all that...
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Post by eJm on Aug 21, 2019 8:24:48 GMT -5
Hornswoggle revealed as the anonymous Raw GM. Yeah, this is up there for sure. I get the case for Vince's son but that was honestly going to go wrong eventually because "Vince's chosen one" storylines always do. This was a figure who was omnipresent across Raw, messing with faces, occasionally with heels, just ruling over with an iron fist at times... And the way you pay it off is as a gag? Like, come on, man. Even if you tried to then say "It wasn't really Hornswoggle, it was someone else" the fact you never said WHO it was leads me to think it WAS Hornswoggle which, considering Hornswoggle was one of the GM's biggest targets, makes no f***ing sense.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Aug 21, 2019 9:11:12 GMT -5
I think the list of good ones is shorter. DDP stalking The Undertaker's wife and...
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Aug 21, 2019 9:11:19 GMT -5
The Higher Power angle basically revealed in one swoop that like 300000 guys were just dicking around with eachother to spook Stone Stunner Steve in such an indirect way that they repeatedly lost track of him and hemorrhaged some of the most loyal members of The Corporation for basically no reason. Like, The Corporate Ministry angle had already destroyed any appeal that there was in The Ministry and made Undertaker look like a complete goofball that had just wasted his life for months on end, and somehow they found a way to make it all even worse.
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Post by eJm on Aug 21, 2019 9:14:43 GMT -5
The Higher Power angle basically revealed in one swoop that like 300000 guys were just dicking around with eachother to spook Stone Stunner Steve in such an indirect way that they repeatedly lost track of him and hemorrhaged some of the most loyal members of The Corporation for basically no reason. Like, The Corporate Ministry angle had already destroyed any appeal that there was in The Ministry and made Undertaker look like a complete goofball that had just wasted his life for months on end, and somehow they found a way to make it all even worse. Vince: I'm going to pay you all to make sure we take Stone Cold Steve Austin out ONCE AND FOR ALL! Mideon: Soooo...why don't you just fire him? Other stuff hasn't worked and you'd probably save some money. Vince: ....Well, Mideon, the simplest way to explain it is SHUT THE F*** UP!
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Post by bob on Aug 21, 2019 9:21:38 GMT -5
in order that I can remember: The Higher Power, anonymous Raw GM, WCW White hummer, Rikishi being revealed as the guy who ran over Austin
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Aug 21, 2019 9:22:41 GMT -5
The Higher Power angle basically revealed in one swoop that like 300000 guys were just dicking around with eachother to spook Stone Stunner Steve in such an indirect way that they repeatedly lost track of him and hemorrhaged some of the most loyal members of The Corporation for basically no reason. Like, The Corporate Ministry angle had already destroyed any appeal that there was in The Ministry and made Undertaker look like a complete goofball that had just wasted his life for months on end, and somehow they found a way to make it all even worse. Vince: I'm going to pay you all to make sure we take Stone Cold Steve Austin out ONCE AND FOR ALL! Mideon: Soooo...why don't you just fire him? Other stuff hasn't worked and you'd probably save some money. Vince: ....Well, Mideon, the simplest way to explain it is SHUT THE F*** UP! The world's scholars don't talk enough about how Big Boss Man's own friends literally conspired to kill him on the offhand chance that it might spook Steve Austin a lil bit and Big Boss Man's reaction was the equivalent of having a really sick April Fools joke pulled on him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 10:50:48 GMT -5
At least it was a reveal. And it also drew money. The Hummer angle basically destroyed WCW in mid 1999 and they never recovered. The Hummer deal was so horrid that the guy who was run over did a heel turn while the angle was still ongoing (Nash), the mastermind behind it quit the company (Savage), and none of it ever made any sense. .........wait, Nash and Savage were involved? I either forgot this or never knew this. Still not as annoying as the Higher Power, though.
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Post by markymark on Aug 21, 2019 11:00:15 GMT -5
Devon being unmasked at BFG 2012 as the first member of Aces and 8s.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 21, 2019 11:12:43 GMT -5
The Higher Power angle basically revealed in one swoop that like 300000 guys were just dicking around with eachother to spook Stone Stunner Steve in such an indirect way that they repeatedly lost track of him and hemorrhaged some of the most loyal members of The Corporation for basically no reason. Like, The Corporate Ministry angle had already destroyed any appeal that there was in The Ministry and made Undertaker look like a complete goofball that had just wasted his life for months on end, and somehow they found a way to make it all even worse. On top of all that, the "Higher Power" himself turned face 3 months later!
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 21, 2019 11:34:15 GMT -5
Vince: I'm going to pay you all to make sure we take Stone Cold Steve Austin out ONCE AND FOR ALL! Mideon: Soooo...why don't you just fire him? Other stuff hasn't worked and you'd probably save some money. Vince: ....Well, Mideon, the simplest way to explain it is SHUT THE F*** UP! The world's scholars don't talk enough about how Big Boss Man's own friends literally conspired to kill him on the offhand chance that it might spook Steve Austin a lil bit and Big Boss Man's reaction was the equivalent of having a really sick April Fools joke pulled on him. There are a whole bunch of examples of how the payoff made no sense and everyone involved did a bunch of pointless and unnecessary nonsense. Honestly, it gives me an ice cream headache thinking about it
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 21, 2019 11:59:24 GMT -5
Let me try and recall the entire Hummer Angle:
--Randy Savage was feuding with Kevin Nash in late Spring/early Summer 1999. One week Nash humiliated Savage by having a contortionist chick dump sewage or something on Macho and then the next week Savage planned his revenge. Madusa, Gorgeous George, and Miss Madness lured Nash into their limo only to bolt, leading to a mysterious white Hummer smashing into the car and nearly killing Nash. Thus began the whole thing as to the mystery driver. Who did Savage get to run over Nash?
--At the Great American Bash PPV Sid does a run in on the main event and this would have been a good payoff for the driver, but then they said it was NOT Sid. For the next few weeks they had various mystery Stings driving around in Hummers implying it was Sting, although the real Sting professed his innocence. This led to a convoluted PPV main event where Nash teamed with Sting vs. Macho/Sid and the world title was on the line and I believe it was possible for Sting to actually pin his own partner to win the title. Savage won the title and lost to Hogan the next night, but the driver was never revealed (though they hinted it might be a woman?).
--At this point these guys drift into other feuds. Savage ended up feuding with Dennis Rodman at Road Wild and hinted that the Hummer driver might attack Rodman (this was I think when Carmen Electra was rumored?), while Nash turned heel to feud with Hogan after Hogan returned to the red and yellow. Nash put his career on the line and lost at Road Wild. Savage also basically quit WCW around the time of Bischoff's meltdown in Aug. 1999, frustrated over Sid being pushed over him and a bunch of other stuff. Sting lost to Sid at Road Wild, but ended up #1 contender for Fall Brawl somehow while Sid got a U.S. title shot against Benoit.
--So you'd think the Hummer angle has just been buried, but you'd be wrong. Lex Luger now interjected himself into the main event of the next PPV, Fall Brawl. Sting was facing Hogan for the world title. Luger now insisted that it was Hogan that may have been the driver and that Sting shouldn't trust Hogan. Thus if true the face Hogan at the previous PPV had actually tried to kill the heel Nash by running him over with a Hummer. Luger produced silly pics with Hogan around Hummers, etc. Hogan was not the driver of course, but Sting didn't care and bashed Hogan with a baseball bat and turned heel to win the title. Bear in mind the original victim of the attack, Nash, had turned heel and lost a retirement match since this angle began.
--Around this point Russo and Ferrara came in and they dropped the whole thing, at least for a long time. In April 2000 they did a wacky bit on Nitro where Bischoff tried to hit Hogan or someone with a white Hummer. I don't know if this was an implication that Bischoff did all of these attacks or if he was just a copycat of the original fiend.
So, after recapping all of this is there any doubt this stuff was the worst mystery angle of all time?
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