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Post by DSR on Oct 15, 2019 13:00:06 GMT -5
Got an email about this earlier today. Put in my fan votes for: Pat Benatar, Judas Priest, Motorhead, NIN, and Thin Lizzy.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Oct 15, 2019 13:10:01 GMT -5
How many get in out of that list? Five? Six? Just wondered.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 15, 2019 13:18:00 GMT -5
Can they find a way to just put them all in?
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Post by MiLB Fan on Oct 15, 2019 13:20:29 GMT -5
How many get in out of that list? Five? Six? Just wondered. Looking at the inductee list from the past few years, each class has about six or seven members.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 15, 2019 13:27:20 GMT -5
My votes would be for Pat Benatar, Whitney Houston, Judas Priest, Motörhead, Nine Inch Nails, The Notorious BIG, and Soundgarden
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Post by petef3 on Oct 15, 2019 14:12:29 GMT -5
Someone please explain to me the love for Pat Benatar as a HOFer that I'm seeing everywhere. She seems like the personification of "Hall of Very Good" to me and inducting her would be like Harold Baines getting into the Baseball HOF, but someone convince me otherwise.
I'm seeing comparisons to Blondie and to Joan Jett--both of those acts absolutely smoke her like a cheap cigar, so that isn't enough.
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Post by mo on Oct 15, 2019 14:56:27 GMT -5
Depeche Mode, Kraftwerk, Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden, and T. Rex would get my personal vote. I dig me some Priest, Motörhead and Biggie too but five votes!
Still would be nice to see the likes of Joy Division, Replacements, Hüsker Dü and the likes to get some recognition, though I doubt those guys really care. The Cure finally made it last year, so who knows!
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 15, 2019 15:02:00 GMT -5
That's a solid list. Still.....Weird Al should be in there and it's stupid that he isn't Did whoever heads the HOF have a young daughter? That Al attempted to court long, long ago? No, but he once sneezed in all of their snow cones.
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 15, 2019 15:07:15 GMT -5
Someone please explain to me the love for Pat Benatar as a HOFer that I'm seeing everywhere. She seems like the personification of "Hall of Very Good" to me and inducting her would be like Harold Baines getting into the Baseball HOF, but someone convince me otherwise. I'm seeing comparisons to Blondie and to Joan Jett--both of those acts absolutely smoke her like a cheap cigar, so that isn't enough. The overly-simplistic argument for her getting is that her music is really, really popular. She had multiple hits that music listeners loved back then and still love today. (That's one of the main criteria for the R&R HOF; ability for their music to last and stand the test of time.) That's pretty much the way an artist that wasn't "revolutionary" or "a total game-changer" can still be a Hall Of Famer; with a lot of really popular music. That's how Whitney will also get in, btw.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 15, 2019 15:32:43 GMT -5
Koko B. Ware will also get in this HOF before Weird Al does, as a matter of fact (hey, he has Piledriver to go by...)
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Post by koreycaskets on Oct 15, 2019 15:39:58 GMT -5
MOTORHEAD!!! \m/
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Post by King Boo on Oct 15, 2019 15:40:23 GMT -5
I've grown to hate it when these nominations come out, even with the lists getting better, because all anyone can do is talk about the people who aren't in there and shit all over the ones who do get any recognition (many of whom should have gotten it long ago anyway).
- Pat Benatar is an incredible singer who had multiple hit songs and represents bad-ass women in rock, a woefully underrepresented group in the HOF. It's not a matter of why is she nominated; it's a matter of what took so long. - DMB has had a career of longevity with their loyal fans, regardless of a ton of people now pretending they never liked them. - Depeche Mode is a heavy new wave hitter whose albums remain classics in the genre with songs that hold up to this day. - The Doobie Brothers is a classic rock staple with more hits than people probably realize, and are also still going today, decades after their initial success. - Whitney Houston was absolutely amazing; a once in a lifetime voice who can never be replicated. - Judas Priest is self-explanatory in the world of heavy metal; another genre that is far too ignored by the HOF. - Kraftwerk is a pioneer of electronic music and laid the foundation for the generations of music to come. - MC5, similar to Kraftwerk, are pioneers; this time for punk music. - Motorhead: see: Priest, Judas. - NIN. No one is like NIN and they are the arguably the biggest name ever for industrial rock. Creativity and ingenuity, combined with popularity, make this a no-brainer. - The Notorious BIG is one of the biggest icons in the world of hip-hop. People make the argument about "rock & roll hall of fame" but it's long since been established that this is just about popular music. Hip-hop is in there, and will continue to be in there, and to omit Biggie would be a ridiculous oversight. - Rufus Feat. Chaka Khan. Funk heavy hitters. Not to sound like a broken record, but: influential. - Todd Rundgren is varied and forward thinking, both in his style and on the technical side, while also having multiple big hits over the span of his career. - Soundgarden. Come on. Don't make me explain it. - T. Rex. was, not to sound like a broken record again, a pioneer in glam rock. This is a good sign to the HOF maybe softening up on their glam rock snobbery. In the UK in particular, they were huge. And Marc Bolan rocked a mean top hat. - Thin Lizzy should have been considered ages ago. Their biggest hits are classic and have endured over time, years after Phil Lynott's death. A major inspiration to rock bands to this day.
There. Hopefully I've done a decent job of explaining why, regardless of anyone's personal preference, every single act on this list is a worthy nomination and, one day, induction. Thank you for your time.
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 15, 2019 15:41:46 GMT -5
I've grown to hate it when these nominations come out, even with the lists getting better, because all anyone can do is talk about the people who aren't in there and shit all over the ones who do get any recognition (many of whom should have gotten it long ago anyway). - Pat Benatar is an incredible singer who had multiple hit songs and represents bad-ass women in rock, a woefully underrepresented group in the HOF. It's not a matter of why is she nominated; it's a matter of what took so long. - DMB has had a career of longevity with their loyal fans, regardless of a ton of people now pretending they never liked them. - Depeche Mode is a heavy new wave hitter whose albums remain classics in the genre with songs that hold up to this day. - The Doobie Brothers is a classic rock staple with more hits than people probably realize, and are also still going today, decades after their initial success. - Whitney Houston was absolutely amazing; a once in a lifetime voice who can never be replicated. - Judas Priest is self-explanatory in the world of heavy metal; another genre that is far too ignored by the HOF. - Kraftwerk is a pioneer of electronic music and laid the foundation for the generations of music to come. - MC5, similar to Kraftwerk, are pioneers; this time for punk music. - Motorhead: see: Priest, Judas. - NIN. No one is like NIN and they are the arguably the biggest name ever for industrial rock. Creativty and ingenuity, combined with popularity, make this a no-brainer. - The Notorious BIG is one of the biggest icons in the world of hip-hop. People make the argument about "rock & roll hall of fame" but it's long since been established that this is just about popular music. Hip hop is in there, and will continue to be in there, and to omit Biggie would be a ridiculous oversight. - Rufus Feat. Chaka Khan. Funk heavy hitters. Not to sound like a broken record, but: influential. - Todd Rundgren is varied and forward thinking, both in his style and on the technical side, while also having multiple big hits over the span of his career. - Soundgarden. Come on. Don't make me explain it. - T. Rex. was, not to sound like a broken record again, pioneers in glam rock. This is a good sign to the HOF maybe softening up on their glam rock snobbery. In the UK in particular, they were huge. And Marc Bolan rocked a mean top hat. - Thin Lizzy should have been considered ages ago. Their biggest hits are classic and have endured over time, years after Phil Lynott's death. A major inspiration to rock bands to this day. There. Hopefully I've done a decent job of explaining why, regardless of anyone's personal preference, every single act on this list is a worthy nomination and, one day, induction. Thank you for your time. I agree 100 percent with what you wrote
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Oct 15, 2019 15:45:23 GMT -5
I’m all for T Rex getting in as I f***ing love them but they really shouldn’t be nominated before Slade. They nay not have had as much success as other groups outside their own country but their influence is massive. Queen, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Ramones are just a few. Quiet Riot owe their biggest commercial success to them and Kiss basically modelled their stage presence on four ugly bastards from Birmingham. Yes, I know I’ve said this about Slade many times. But I won’t be silenced on it!
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Post by King Boo on Oct 15, 2019 15:46:32 GMT -5
I’m all for T Rex getting in as I f***ing love them but they really shouldn’t be nominated before Slade. They nay not have had as much success as other groups outside their own country but their influence is massive. Queen, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Ramones are just a few. Quiet Riot owe their biggest commercial success to them and Kiss basically modelled their stage presence on four ugly bastards from Birmingham. Yes, I know I’ve said this about Slade many times. But I won’t be silenced on it! I agree about Slade. I've given up making the chronology argument because they're never going to adhere to it (even though they should). Maybe T. Rex can be a door opening for Slade one day.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 15, 2019 15:48:46 GMT -5
I've grown to hate it when these nominations come out, even with the lists getting better, because all anyone can do is talk about the people who aren't in there and shit all over the ones who do get any recognition (many of whom should have gotten it long ago anyway). - Pat Benatar is an incredible singer who had multiple hit songs and represents bad-ass women in rock, a woefully underrepresented group in the HOF. It's not a matter of why is she nominated; it's a matter of what took so long. - DMB has had a career of longevity with their loyal fans, regardless of a ton of people now pretending they never liked them. - Depeche Mode is a heavy new wave hitter whose albums remain classics in the genre with songs that hold up to this day. - The Doobie Brothers is a classic rock staple with more hits than people probably realize, and are also still going today, decades after their initial success. - Whitney Houston was absolutely amazing; a once in a lifetime voice who can never be replicated. - Judas Priest is self-explanatory in the world of heavy metal; another genre that is far too ignored by the HOF. - Kraftwerk is a pioneer of electronic music and laid the foundation for the generations of music to come. - MC5, similar to Kraftwerk, are pioneers; this time for punk music. - Motorhead: see: Priest, Judas. - NIN. No one is like NIN and they are the arguably the biggest name ever for industrial rock. Creativity and ingenuity, combined with popularity, make this a no-brainer. - The Notorious BIG is one of the biggest icons in the world of hip-hop. People make the argument about "rock & roll hall of fame" but it's long since been established that this is just about popular music. Hip-hop is in there, and will continue to be in there, and to omit Biggie would be a ridiculous oversight. - Rufus Feat. Chaka Khan. Funk heavy hitters. Not to sound like a broken record, but: influential. - Todd Rundgren is varied and forward thinking, both in his style and on the technical side, while also having multiple big hits over the span of his career. - Soundgarden. Come on. Don't make me explain it. - T. Rex. was, not to sound like a broken record again, pioneers in glam rock. This is a good sign to the HOF maybe softening up on their glam rock snobbery. In the UK in particular, they were huge. And Marc Bolan rocked a mean top hat. - Thin Lizzy should have been considered ages ago. Their biggest hits are classic and have endured over time, years after Phil Lynott's death. A major inspiration to rock bands to this day. There. Hopefully I've done a decent job of explaining why, regardless of anyone's personal preference, every single act on this list is a worthy nomination and, one day, induction. Thank you for your time.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Oct 15, 2019 16:02:10 GMT -5
T Rex being inducted would be a miserable event though. The only member still alive from their heyday is the drummer and the other founding member who left the band before their commercial success is long dead too.
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 15, 2019 16:33:45 GMT -5
Koko B. Ware will also get in this HOF before Weird Al does, as a matter of fact (hey, he has Piledriver to go by...) Hulk Hogan (and The Wrestling Boot Band) are eligible next year.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 15, 2019 16:37:47 GMT -5
Are there any objective metrics you can judge a music hall of fame by besides total record/album sales and tickets sold? Otherwise, it's completely subjective according to taste and the amount of famous modern day musicians you can find to say how much X musician was an influence on them (who will always exist for any popular artist). Anything else comes off as music snobbery and elitism.
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Post by DSR on Oct 15, 2019 17:18:56 GMT -5
Friendly reminder that we're only THREE YEARS AWAY FROM LIMP BIZKIT BEING ELIGIBLE FOR INDUCTION!
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