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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 26, 2019 21:39:07 GMT -5
Basically Last was a superfan that had enough money to start hitting shows and conventions in his teens. Then back in 2005 him and Bob Barnett were on Bix's first podcast,the podcast Bix doesn't like talking about,Last enjoyed it so much he wanted to do a podcast. Okay, y'know, I'm kinda glad Bix's name came up, because that's someone who has shown an adult can actually grow the hell up. While he never did anything on the level of Cornette that I'm aware of, he was part of an online group that was incredibly toxic. I was surprised as hell when I saw his name start popping up in my peripherals again a few years back, almost couldn't believe it was the same guy. It CAN be done. Hmm now I wonder which of the toxic groups Bix was part of you are talking about...Kaiju?CrushkillCrush? A
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Post by burdette25159 on Nov 26, 2019 23:59:11 GMT -5
Guessing that Next week's Powerrr is going to have some bits reshot
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Post by brown bricks on Nov 27, 2019 10:15:22 GMT -5
Sami Calliahn your thoughts? Maybe I would hate Cornette more if the wrestlers who speak out the most against him weren't the dog-shit worst people. Exhibit A.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 27, 2019 10:56:56 GMT -5
Sami Calliahn your thoughts? Maybe I would hate Cornette more if the wrestlers who speak out the most against him weren't the dog-shit worst people. Exhibit A. Having met Sammi multiple times I can tell you he is not a bad person at all
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2019 11:05:32 GMT -5
Maybe I would hate Cornette more if the wrestlers who speak out the most against him weren't the dog-shit worst people. Exhibit A. Having met Sammi multiple times I can tell you he is not a bad person at all Yeh I dont see how Joey Ryan ,Sammi,Kenny ,Bucks.are the dirty worst. Janela is kinda of a tool sometimes on twitter but overall comes off as a much better guy than Cornette. That cosplay doesnt even come close to the worst insults and mocking Cornette does.
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Post by corndog on Nov 27, 2019 11:08:01 GMT -5
Maybe I would hate Cornette more if the wrestlers who speak out the most against him weren't the dog-shit worst people. Exhibit A. Having met Sammi multiple times I can tell you he is not a bad person at all I agree, seems like a cool guy, actually ran the check in booth at the "Naito takes Dayton" show. A funny story from that show, they ran out of chairs, so they took some benches out of their vans for people to sit in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 12:16:58 GMT -5
Well he's attacked everything else so he might as well attack mental stability I really don't ever want to hear again Cornette is "working" and you don't get it Boy, that's true...and also applies to cornette.
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Post by brown bricks on Nov 27, 2019 12:23:11 GMT -5
Having met Sammi multiple times I can tell you he is not a bad person at all Yeh I dont see how Joey Ryan ,Sammi,Kenny ,Bucks.are the dirty worst. Janela is kinda of a tool sometimes on twitter but overall comes off as a much better guy than Cornette. That cosplay doesnt even come close to the worst insults and mocking Cornette does. The cosplay isn't the issue. It's that these people are throwing stones in glass houses. A lot in that group have done or have been accused of some horrendous shit themselves. Just some things that come to mind: - Joey Ryan's awful "Easter Basket" tweet. - Sami Callihan has been accused of domestic violence by an ex-wife. - Omega employed a pedophile and then made an ass of himself on Twitter. And I don't say any of this to excuse Cornette's horrible joke, I say it to show that 3 of those listed aren't stainless themselves. A few of them (DEFINITELY Sami and Janella) use Cornette to help get themselves over and it's just annoying. I think anyone with a brain would see that the best way to deal with Cornette is to ignore his existence and go about your business. Dressing up as him, bringing out tennis rackets during matches, etc. are sure fire ways to get him to bitch about you on his podcast and that's exactly what they want. They may hate Cornette, but guys like Sami and Janella almost have a weird symbiotic relationship with him at this point. tl;dr - Cornette's "joke" was shit, but a lot of these people are equally shit and should shut up and work on bettering themselves instead of trying to get a mention from Cornette.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 14:12:22 GMT -5
Yeh I dont see how Joey Ryan ,Sammi,Kenny ,Bucks.are the dirty worst. Janela is kinda of a tool sometimes on twitter but overall comes off as a much better guy than Cornette. That cosplay doesnt even come close to the worst insults and mocking Cornette does. - Omega employed a pedophile and then made an ass of himself on Twitter. Um, what? I looked this up and the only thing I got from Omega on it was a long, pretty sincere apology that explained how it came about, how it was a horrible mistake not to vet the people, which he promised to do from then on, and even offering financial compensation to anyone who was hurt or made to feel unsafe by Chasyn's presence on the show. Like...was there another twitter post about it where he flipped his shit or some shit?
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 27, 2019 14:16:34 GMT -5
- Omega employed a pedophile and then made an ass of himself on Twitter. Um, what? I looked this up and the only thing I got from Omega on it was a long, pretty sincere apology that explained how it came about, how it was a horrible mistake not to vet the people, which he promised to do from then on, and even offering financial compensation to anyone who was hurt or made to feel unsafe by Chasyn's presence on the show. Like...was there another twitter post about it where he flipped his shit or some shit? People then showed a picture of Kenny posing next to Rance and a few of Rance’s students for a photo...which apparently meant to some people that Kenny was lying and wasn’t just, y’know, taking pictures with people as he’s likely done a million times.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 14:19:14 GMT -5
Um, what? I looked this up and the only thing I got from Omega on it was a long, pretty sincere apology that explained how it came about, how it was a horrible mistake not to vet the people, which he promised to do from then on, and even offering financial compensation to anyone who was hurt or made to feel unsafe by Chasyn's presence on the show. Like...was there another twitter post about it where he flipped his shit or some shit? People then showed a picture of Kenny posing next to Rance and a few of Rance’s students for a photo...which apparently meant to some people that Kenny was lying and wasn’t just, y’know, taking pictures with people as he’s likely done a million times. lol they were the ring crew for the show tho thats not really weird
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 27, 2019 14:22:53 GMT -5
It's weird to take the Joey Ryan easter basket post, where he made an inappropriate joke on twitter, deleted it and apologized for it, and then say he should "better himself" when he showed the maturity that most vitally Jim Cornette hasn't been showing in this situation by going on big "No I'm justified it's not my fault" rants and being trash. Or to say Kenny, who was asked in an interview about it and gave a calm and composed answer, needs to better himself. Jim Cornette attacking people is the one throwing stones in glass houses and it's weird to try and run with the angle insisting the contrary.Like I can't spak for the Callihan thing, I don't know the story there. But on a broader sense? Trying to bring up dirt on everyone else while they get targeted by the slanderous, hate mob-commanding idiot at the top feels like a deflection at best.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 27, 2019 14:35:28 GMT -5
Yeh I dont see how Joey Ryan ,Sammi,Kenny ,Bucks.are the dirty worst. Janela is kinda of a tool sometimes on twitter but overall comes off as a much better guy than Cornette. That cosplay doesnt even come close to the worst insults and mocking Cornette does. The cosplay isn't the issue. It's that these people are throwing stones in glass houses. A lot in that group have done or have been accused of some horrendous shit themselves. Just some things that come to mind: - Joey Ryan's awful "Easter Basket" tweet. - Sami Callihan has been accused of domestic violence by an ex-wife. - Omega employed a pedophile and then made an ass of himself on Twitter. And I don't say any of this to excuse Cornette's horrible joke, I say it to show that 3 of those listed aren't stainless themselves. A few of them (DEFINITELY Sami and Janella) use Cornette to help get themselves over and it's just annoying. I think anyone with a brain would see that the best way to deal with Cornette is to ignore his existence and go about your business. Dressing up as him, bringing out tennis rackets during matches, etc. are sure fire ways to get him to bitch about you on his podcast and that's exactly what they want. They may hate Cornette, but guys like Sami and Janella almost have a weird symbiotic relationship with him at this point. tl;dr - Cornette's "joke" was shit, but a lot of these people are equally shit and should shut up and work on bettering themselves instead of trying to get a mention from Cornette. Omega cut ties with that man the moment he was alerted to his past. Ryan's tweet was horrifically tasteless and he did the correct thing in owning up to it and apologizing over it. And there are dozens of other workers that have called out Cornette on his shit.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 27, 2019 14:42:31 GMT -5
Sami Calliahn your thoughts? Maybe I would hate Cornette more if the wrestlers who speak out the most against him weren't the dog-shit worst people. Exhibit A. A+B=D? Why should anyone else speaking out about Cornette influence your own feelings on him?
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Post by Tenshigure on Nov 27, 2019 15:16:36 GMT -5
A+B=D? Why should anyone else speaking out about Cornette influence your own feelings on him? I don't need Captain Insano's opinion on whether Cornette's vitriolic diatribe is something to hate him for or not.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 27, 2019 15:30:44 GMT -5
Holy false equivalencies Batman.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 27, 2019 16:11:21 GMT -5
Yeh I dont see how Joey Ryan ,Sammi,Kenny ,Bucks.are the dirty worst. Janela is kinda of a tool sometimes on twitter but overall comes off as a much better guy than Cornette. That cosplay doesnt even come close to the worst insults and mocking Cornette does. The cosplay isn't the issue. It's that these people are throwing stones in glass houses. A lot in that group have done or have been accused of some horrendous shit themselves. Just some things that come to mind: - Joey Ryan's awful "Easter Basket" tweet. - Sami Callihan has been accused of domestic violence by an ex-wife. - Omega employed a pedophile and then made an ass of himself on Twitter. And I don't say any of this to excuse Cornette's horrible joke, I say it to show that 3 of those listed aren't stainless themselves. A few of them (DEFINITELY Sami and Janella) use Cornette to help get themselves over and it's just annoying. I think anyone with a brain would see that the best way to deal with Cornette is to ignore his existence and go about your business. Dressing up as him, bringing out tennis rackets during matches, etc. are sure fire ways to get him to bitch about you on his podcast and that's exactly what they want. They may hate Cornette, but guys like Sami and Janella almost have a weird symbiotic relationship with him at this point. tl;dr - Cornette's "joke" was shit, but a lot of these people are equally shit and should shut up and work on bettering themselves instead of trying to get a mention from Cornette. When Corny actually apologizes for his many, many, many recent "misguided jokes" I'll take these points into consideration. Until that time Corny is still worse than those you've listed because unlike him they never doubled-down and blamed the fans. I believe in personal responsibility and Corny is sorely lacking in that department. His past achievements (great as they were) don't give him a pass to be as racist, sexist, homophobic, ableist, slanderous, exact as he wants to be without consequences.
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Post by spagett on Nov 27, 2019 16:16:43 GMT -5
Has Cornette spoken at all about the leaked audio of him repeatedly using the N word?
Or is he hoping if he ignores that it will go away?
Because i've got to be honest, when you're trying to argue you aren't a racist, audio of you being incredibly racist sort of hurts your defence.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Nov 27, 2019 16:20:45 GMT -5
I gotta ask this, since the remark happened in the match, but when did Trevor Murdoch get so damn big? Like, I get that he wasn't exactly an adonis in the WWE, but he looks like he's got that Dick Murdoch body going on in that NWA Powerr match.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 27, 2019 16:53:39 GMT -5
Has Cornette spoken at all about the leaked audio of him repeatedly using the N word? Or is he hoping if he ignores that it will go away? Because i've got to be honest, when you're trying to argue you aren't a racist, audio of you being incredibly racist sort of hurts your defence. But he doesn't think of that word as racist, you racist! While growing up in the South he called black people the N Word every day, it was all in good fun. Sorry, I couldn't resist anticipating Corny's probable "defense" given his recent comments.
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