Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Jan 2, 2020 19:51:20 GMT -5
An area literally larger than Belgium is on fire. People in New Zealand are having breathing problems attributed to the smoke. New Zealand is 2000km away. Meanwhile the "climate change is bullshit/not a problem" crowd are like:  I literally got stuck listening to some chump on the train this afternoon explaining that this is normal. That is never going to go away because the real solution to climate change is for people in general to change how they do things and honestly, people can't be inconvenienced so they'd rather figure out how it isn't their fault or it isn't happening. |
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Post by Topher is Human on Jan 2, 2020 20:14:17 GMT -5
I live just in the border of the Adelaide Hills, a suburb called Athelstone which is only 20 minutes away from the CBD.
My backyard is Black Hill, which Cuddlee Creek is adjoined to. 2 weeks ago the fire got so intense that there was a thick grey haze for almost a week across my street and the house smelt of Smoke the entire time. It was literally raining ash on my house for days and days.
It was thankfully contained by Christmas, but we have been put on warning again today.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 2, 2020 22:11:03 GMT -5
An area literally larger than Belgium is on fire. People in New Zealand are having breathing problems attributed to the smoke. New Zealand is 2000km away. Meanwhile the "climate change is bullshit/not a problem" crowd are like: I literally got stuck listening to some chump on the train this afternoon explaining that this is normal. As much as it can be attributed to climate change it’s probably more of a cause of climate change going forward. It’s possible this fire alone matches close to 5% of the worldwide CO2 emissions in a year by the time its run its course. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 2, 2020 22:24:24 GMT -5
Meanwhile the "climate change is bullshit/not a problem" crowd are like: I literally got stuck listening to some chump on the train this afternoon explaining that this is normal. As much as it can be attributed to climate change it’s probably more of a cause of climate change going forward. It’s possible this fire alone matches close to 5% of the worldwide CO2 emissions in a year by the time its run its course. Yup. It's something that has the potential to snowball, with each new side-effect of the ongoing climate change contributing to its cause or the cause of another side-effect. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 2, 2020 22:26:21 GMT -5
As much as it can be attributed to climate change it’s probably more of a cause of climate change going forward. It’s possible this fire alone matches close to 5% of the worldwide CO2 emissions in a year by the time its run its course. Yup. It's something that has the potential to snowball, with each new side-effect of the ongoing climate change contributing to its cause or the cause of another side-effect. The Siberia Fires of 2003 produced as much CO2 as almost 40 million automobiles in a year. We’re on a slide that we’re probably unable to recover from. That doesn’t mean we won’t adapt |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 2, 2020 22:27:34 GMT -5
I’m not sure of the death toll .. think it’s something like 8 in Victoria, and don’t know about the other states. There has been one death as a result of the fires in Canberra that was not in a bush fire zone. A woman died from respiratory problems at a Canberra airport from the bushfire smoke www.9news.com.au/national/canberra-woman-dies-smoke-air-quality-plane/32530dcf-a5e9-4285-af5f-a53a322528c7So if there is smoke in your area, stay inside, and close all your windows. Particularly if you have respiratory conditions like asthma. Any death is too many. Be safe. There's around 30 on the missing list here in Victoria that it doesn't look good for, and I can only imagine how much worse it's going to be in NSW. (And people in an evacuation zone, PLEASE evacuate. Too many people die trying to save their properties. Houses can be replaced. People can't.) |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 3, 2020 11:03:15 GMT -5
One of the national park fires is burning about 75 kms away from me. Where I live isn't on the warning list yet, but it's very unsettling laying in bed at 3am with the smell of bushfire smoke in the house (and making my eyes sting).
I'd give anything for the whole country to get a downpour of rain.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 3, 2020 18:15:00 GMT -5
Not much else I can add but for anyone there to stay safe, that more action and resources desperately need to be added immediately, and all of my best wishes.
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Post by montee916 on Jan 3, 2020 21:50:46 GMT -5
The Australian PM just gave a press conference saying they are calling into active duty some 3000 military reserve members, with temperatures in some areas up to 45 Degrees Celsius, or around 113 Fahrenheit.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 3, 2020 21:54:51 GMT -5
Incredibly scary. Stay safe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 4:27:16 GMT -5
A big thing I’ve taken from this is that Australia’s firefighting service is mostly voluntary?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 4, 2020 4:35:57 GMT -5
As much as it can be attributed to climate change it’s probably more of a cause of climate change going forward. It’s possible this fire alone matches close to 5% of the worldwide CO2 emissions in a year by the time its run its course. Yup. It's something that has the potential to snowball, with each new side-effect of the ongoing climate change contributing to its cause or the cause of another side-effect. Yep. Chain reaction. Icebergs melting is bad enough, which cause higher tides, which will engulf and drown more and more vegetation, cutting even more oxygen replenishment, etc. |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 4, 2020 6:40:41 GMT -5
A big thing I’ve taken from this is that Australia’s firefighting service is mostly voluntary? Metropolitan brigades are paid, but rural fire brigades (who both outnumber them AND are the ones on the frontline of bushfires) are volunteer. (That said, the metropolitan firey's go out to the bushfires in a crisis event like this, and have an equally dangerous job. The kind of people who stand in front of fires to protect the rest of us are who we should reserve the word hero for.) I know a few volunteers in the town I grew up in, and they train regularly, take part in drills and competitive events to stay in shape and up to date, and they take it as a serious commitment. A few of my friends joined at 18, and when they were on call on weekends there was never any "I'll have a beer or two, she'll be right". That is huge when you consider socialising for young adults in rural Australia revolves around pub culture. These were 18/19 year old guys who on a normal night out would get blackout, vomit in the bushes, have sex with a 40 year old trucker drunk, but if they were on call they'd be with a group of about 12 of us who were getting shitfaced, and not touch a drop. Tldr: yes, the majority of our firefighters are volunteers. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 4, 2020 16:01:11 GMT -5
Would anyone be able to tell me the most effective organization I could donate to? Dont want to donate to someone that wont do squat or worse with the money.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 4, 2020 16:52:56 GMT -5
Would anyone be able to tell me the most effective organization I could donate to? Dont want to donate to someone that wont do squat or worse with the money. For people displaced by the fire. I would say the Australian Red Cross. For the fire fighters there are a few different non profit organisations. Here is a list attached to a tweet by pop star and absolute saint Pink: Good news for Victoria .. looks like it will be getting a bit of rain today. |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 4, 2020 18:36:26 GMT -5
I wanna say Celeste Barber is an absolute f***ing legend for the amount she's raised
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 4, 2020 21:03:29 GMT -5
An area literally larger than Belgium is on fire. People in New Zealand are having breathing problems attributed to the smoke. New Zealand is 2000km away. Right now the sky in Auckland is a orange haze due to the smoke from the bushfires. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 4, 2020 22:02:00 GMT -5
An area literally larger than Belgium is on fire. People in New Zealand are having breathing problems attributed to the smoke. New Zealand is 2000km away. Meanwhile the "climate change is bullshit/not a problem" crowd are like: I literally got stuck listening to some chump on the train this afternoon explaining that this is normal. This is basically the position of Sky News Australia because somehow Rupert Murdoch is still alive and determined to spread human misery until his dying day. |
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Post by Cyno on Jan 5, 2020 20:21:20 GMT -5
Wasn't sure to post it here or start a new thread in the AEW section, but I figure more eyeballs will look at it here. Cody Rhodes is selling an unused t-shirt design and 100% of the profits are going to the NSW Rural Fire Service. https://www.instagram.com/p/B69WDDvFtHA |
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Post by Cyno on Jan 6, 2020 15:02:36 GMT -5
Chris Jericho and Gino Gambino are also auctioning off Jericho's worn Painmaker t-shirt from Wrestle Kingdom 14 and donating all the proceeds to Australia fire relief. All the money is going to the CFA and the NSWRFS. www.ebay.com.au/itm/174147053194?ul_noapp=true |
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